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[ichabod_crane]

Could be... shows you need to get to know your market.  WPG seems to be the opposite.  Maybe BC has a ton of young families that want to go but can't if it drags on until 10:30pm.

Management and the league should know this stuff and tweak the 2025 schedule accordingly.  Just like WPG gets stuck with the extra Thu games, BC should maybe get more weekend afternoon games.

10:30 PM? That's a joke in Spain where I am now! SUPPER regularly does not occur until 9 pm and so does going out in the bigger cities. REAL MADRID is party central of nearly 100,000! Canada could learn a thing or two from the Spanish. Often Canadian civic/municipal governments want to KILL street and spontaneous celebrations as the old bitter bitties they are! Behind the times as usual

[theaardvark]

The CFL should start expanding into cities with stadiums that have 20-27 thousand stadiums.

This would include northern American cities. This would include Canadian cities that would include HALIFAX, Quebec perhaps Saskatoon, and London, and Victoria

In the States perhaps, Rapid city, Albany, Rochester, Minot

A salary cap would need to be maintained as all other cities

Nope

10th team MAYBE in the Atlantic.

If they decide 12, then MAYBE London and Qwebec City.  Never Saskatoon or Victoria.

Can't give a team to Oakville, Brampton, Markham, or Whitby, because then Toronto would want one.

[Bluehawk]

For now the league needs to concentrate on getting the Halifax team going.
Equals 5 teams per division.
Run with that for a few years...then maybe add Victoria and one more east of Manitoba.
Don't ever and I mean ever head south of the border again. Been there done that...disaster

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

For now the league needs to concentrate on getting the Halifax team going.
Equals 5 teams per division.
Run with that for a few years...then maybe add Victoria and one more east of Manitoba.
Don't ever and I mean ever head south of the border again. Been there done that...disaster

There's no life signs to be found in the Atlantic Schooners Football Club, they are a dead fish.

[Jesse]

There's no life signs to be found in the Atlantic Schooners Football Club, they are a dead fish.

Agreed. There's no interest there at all.

We're not in a financial climate to build stadiums anymore. No one will spend private money; tax payers won't support public funds.

If there's any hope for a 10th team, it needs to be somewhere that has some kind of stadium already.

[theaardvark]

There's no life signs to be found in the Atlantic Schooners Football Club, they are a dead fish.

They've been swimming upstream so long.. I have no doubt that they have tired of not having any positive results.  Add in COVID killing thier kitchen parties at the GC's for a couple years, and you know why its quiet.

All it would take is a interested owner and a bit of work on expanding the stadium, and it takes off again.  I have no doubt they'd have a tremendous launch with the right owner.

[ModAdmin]

Could be... shows you need to get to know your market.  WPG seems to be the opposite.  Maybe BC has a ton of young families that want to go but can't if it drags on until 10:30pm.

Management and the league should know this stuff and tweak the 2025 schedule accordingly.  Just like WPG gets stuck with the extra Thu games, BC should maybe get more weekend afternoon games.

It is highly doubtful the "young families" or game times have a bearing on on the 21K attendance for the Lions.

Estimated 2024 populations for Vancouver (GVRD) and Winnipeg are:

Vancouver 2,680,000
Winnipeg 849,000

The Lions should be drawing more fans and they haven't figured out yet how to do it in this current climate. 
The Lions should be drawing far more than 21K

[theaardvark]

It is highly doubtful the "young families" or game times have a bearing on on the 21K attendance for the Lions.

Estimated 2024 populations for Vancouver (GVRD) and Winnipeg are:

Vancouver 2,680,000
Winnipeg 849,000

The Lions should be drawing more fans and they haven't figured out yet how to do it in this current climate. 
The Lions should be drawing far more than 21K

Metro Toronto well over double Vancouver, and they can't draw flies.

Its not the population base, its the fan base.  Not getting the "new Canadians" into football is the issue.  If only the global initiative found players other than Europe, Australia and Japan... can you imagine if we had a "Million Dollar Arm" type competition for the CFL?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Dollar_Arm

Not being a jerk, I am truly curious about this, does the ball being made of a pigskin make a difference? 

[ModAdmin]

Metro Toronto well over double Vancouver, and they can't draw flies.

Its not the population base, its the fan base.  Not getting the "new Canadians" into football is the issue.  If only the global initiative found players other than Europe, Australia and Japan... can you imagine if we had a "Million Dollar Arm" type competition for the CFL?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Dollar_Arm

Not being a jerk, I am truly curious about this, does the ball being made of a pigskin make a difference? 

I can't comment on the ball but my initial point was increasing the fan base is primarily done by building a team that wins.  What I said was, Winnipeg fans come out to games because management, coaches, and players play winning football.  Concerts, tailgates, and other entertainment help but clearly if the team is not winning, the crowds will not be sustainable. And if the GVRD has 3 times the population of Winnipeg that too is just an added advantage. 

[bwiser]

There's no life signs to be found in the Atlantic Schooners Football Club, they are a dead fish.

Thats too bad because I had a great time at the Schooners party at the Grey Cup when it was here in Winnipeg.

[bwiser]

Metro Toronto well over double Vancouver, and they can't draw flies.

Its not the population base, its the fan base.  Not getting the "new Canadians" into football is the issue.  If only the global initiative found players other than Europe, Australia and Japan... can you imagine if we had a "Million Dollar Arm" type competition for the CFL?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Dollar_Arm

Not being a jerk, I am truly curious about this, does the ball being made of a pigskin make a difference? 

We have seen the Jets reach out to different ethnic groups and Manitoba Junior Hockey has been involved with the new Canadians market for a number of years. I believe it is starting to pay off for the Jets. The CFL needs to do more of this although the Bombers seem to be ahead of other CFL markets in this area.

[RebusRankin]

Atlantic Canada is never going to work. No stadium, no owner with the necessary deep pockets, not enough businesses to provide corporate support.

[bluengold204]

We have seen the Jets reach out to different ethnic groups and Manitoba Junior Hockey has been involved with the new Canadians market for a number of years. I believe it is starting to pay off for the Jets. The CFL needs to do more of this although the Bombers seem to be ahead of other CFL markets in this area.

Uhhhhh the jets attendance is at an all time low.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Atlantic Canada is never going to work. No stadium, no owner with the necessary deep pockets, not enough businesses to provide corporate support.

The family that sells potatoes at more than a dollar per lb. must be having a hard time making ends meet. There are a few seriously wealthy families in the Maritimes that are content that the region has remained a rural backwater for well over 100 years.

[markf]

The family that sells potatoes at more than a dollar per lb. must be having a hard time making ends meet. There are a few seriously wealthy families in the Maritimes that are content that the region has remained a rural backwater for well over 100 years.

disagree about backwater, but there are definitely people /families/ corporations, in the maritimes who are billionaires, and who could easily pay for and support a CFL team.
but they clearly have no interest at all.

I wonder about Quebec city but there seems no interest there either.