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[Blue In BC]

DT on every CJOB broadcast now says at least once that in 2025 we should load up on everyone and to heck with the cap.  His excuse is BC has shown the way when it's your home GC year.

So it's not just me.  If BC proves $150k+ over the cap (or gasp $300k!) in 2024 then I think that's the green light to go mental.  Just make sure to stay under the magic $300k number so you keep your 1RDP.

No, it's just you.

[bluengold204]

Back on topic.  I'm pretty impressed this is a sell out.  Jets have their home opener Oct 11 at 7:00 so people can't be at both.  Wonder if this will hurt their attendance.

[TecnoGenius]

No, it's just you.

Uh, want me to find you the exact spot in CJOB Audio Vault where DT said it this week??  You can't do your own homework?

And at least 1-2 other posters have echoed my sentiment on this thread and others.

So ya, not just me.

[dd]

Regardless of what the left coast is doing rest assure Walters won't follow suit, he has integrity. I don't think bc gets by Saskatchewan so their irresponsible saws manamfmenr proves nothing, just they're stupid that's all. 

[ModAdmin]

Just pointing out that the Lions went big on the LL Cool J concert at BC place on June 15th with a view to developing a larger fan base.  Many fans thought this was a great idea to bring in new fans.

They drew 53,788 fans for that game.  The next home game on June 27 drew only 19,016 fans and the average per game in September and so far in October has been 21,458 fans.

The LL Cool J experiment did not seem to work.  Bringing back Rourke and Betts does not seem be working fan attendance-wise either.

Building a team through better management, coaching and players resulting in a consistently winning team is the only way to draw fans to games.  Proof positive - the Blue Bombers.

[Stats Junkie]

There is a noticeable difference in attendance at BC Place between week night & weekend games. The June 27 game was a Thursday night game and the last 2 home games have been Friday nights.

The 4pm starts on Saturday & Sunday have been quite successful for the Lions with plenty of children in attendance. For the final home game in 2 weeks, the Lions are once again promoting the 'Island Express' and 'Interior Express'.

[ModAdmin]

The Lions, being successful, is definitely good for the league.  Given the size of the city they should be drawing more than 20K+ fans they regularly draw.  They have the CFL, the NHL as the two primary professional teams in Vancouver.  Winnipeg has the same.  I guess what I am suggesting is that, so far, Winnipeg has been able to build a better CFL team by finding players, coaches and management that have found a way to construct a winner.  So far, BC has not.  I don't think that concerts and other extraneous events will supplant a winning team.

[DM83]

The CFL should start expanding into cities with stadiums that have 20-27 thousand stadiums.

This would include northern American cities. This would include Canadian cities that would include HALIFAX, Quebec perhaps Saskatoon, and London, and Victoria

In the States perhaps, Rapid city, Albany, Rochester, Minot

A salary cap would need to be maintained as all other cities

[TecnoGenius]

The CFL should start expanding into cities with stadiums that have 20-27 thousand stadiums.

This would include northern American cities.

A pipe dream, most likely.  However, if they were to go insane and allow USA in again, this time make it so USA teams must have the same Canadian count as all teams.  The way they did it last time was completely devoid of brains.

[TecnoGenius]

There is a noticeable difference in attendance at BC Place between week night & weekend games. The June 27 game was a Thursday night game and the last 2 home games have been Friday nights.

Could be... shows you need to get to know your market.  WPG seems to be the opposite.  Maybe BC has a ton of young families that want to go but can't if it drags on until 10:30pm.

Management and the league should know this stuff and tweak the 2025 schedule accordingly.  Just like WPG gets stuck with the extra Thu games, BC should maybe get more weekend afternoon games.

[TecnoGenius]

They drew 53,788 fans for that game.  The next home game on June 27 drew only 19,016 fans and the average per game in September and so far in October has been 21,458 fans.

Watching the LL game you could see that every quarter that ended had another 10k or so walk out.  Many watched the concert and just left.

Still, I like the idea and if he wants to throw $$ at it, go for it.  The whole league likes those.

And I do believe BC attendance is up this year on average?  The stadium certainly looks busier than in prior years on TV.  But I could be wrong...

Remember, you don't need 54k to stay... you just need an extra 1-2k per year that buys in (STH), repeat every year until you have WPG attendance numbers! 

[TecnoGenius]

Regardless of what the left coast is doing rest assure Walters won't follow suit, he has integrity.

I fear you are right.  Even when it's revealed BC went $250k over in '24, KW won't take it as license to go hog wild.

However, he could budget right to the cap in FA and ignore any injury & late-signing buffer he'd normally plan for... wink wink.  I would be disappointed if he didn't go at least $100k over by the end, which seems pretty "normal" in the world of CFL.

I don't think bc gets by Saskatchewan so their irresponsible saws manamfmenr proves nothing, just they're stupid that's all.

Haha, true dat.  Might destroy the team's future and not even get a cup to show for it.  At least '13 SSK got the cup for their destruction...

[Jesse]

A pipe dream, most likely.  However, if they were to go insane and allow USA in again, this time make it so USA teams must have the same Canadian count as all teams.  The way they did it last time was completely devoid of brains.

It's illegal under American law. If the CFL expands into the states again, there will be no ratio for that team as well as different field size and probably a different pay scale.

For those, and many other reasons, it should never happen.

[ichabod_crane]

The CFL should start expanding into cities with stadiums that have 20-27 thousand stadiums.

This would include northern American cities. This would include Canadian cities that would include HALIFAX, Quebec perhaps Saskatoon, and London, and Victoria

In the States perhaps, Rapid city, Albany, Rochester, Minot

A salary cap would need to be maintained as all other cities

This has been proposed since the 1970's DM83. The problem ALWAYS is a suitable stadium and people to PONY UP THE CASH! All nice touchy feely to wish this, but bottom line is who is going to pony up that cash for the new team? Governments reluctant to fund stadiums and the American experiment in the 1990's flopped outside of Baltimore and that was just a one trick pony until the Ravens came back to town. CFL is no more than a niche sport down south and mainly for college guys or NFL cuts to keep their hand in the game and maybe get another shot at the big time. Mix in the CFL player ratios and that will not work down south either.

This one off in Victoria was great this season, but I don't think it proves ANYTHING! A one game special event vs 10+ home games are different animals.  Victoria MAYBE could support a team as it's grown since I lived there in the 1990's and draw from all over Vancouver Island. How many prairie retirees would go to game I have no idea. Maybe the CRYDER fans!

[Blue In BC]

Uh, want me to find you the exact spot in CJOB Audio Vault where DT said it this week??  You can't do your own homework?

And at least 1-2 other posters have echoed my sentiment on this thread and others.

So ya, not just me.

Ok. You and a few radical followers. That idea would destroy competition in the CFL.