Bomber LB's

Started by Blue In BC, September 30, 2024, 09:04:07 PM

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theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 02, 2024, 05:53:15 AMGriffin has been a great find.  He's probably been more impactful than Ayers.  What's Griffin's natural position?  He could be a future starter.

I think Griffin is BA's replacement eventually. 

Quote from: Blueforlife on October 02, 2024, 01:34:44 PMKramdi thinks the game well, my memory is poor but I think MOS commented on this when he was developing.  Some were hard on him as he learned the game.  Patience paid off with him big time.  He hasn't hit his full potential yet imo.

I always liked Kramdi's "boom".  He brings it big time, and his smart play is paying off as well.  He still gets in trouble a bit, biting here and there on plays, but makes up for it right away.  He seems to get better after an oopsie.  It seems to me that when I notice him for a bad readon, the next play I notice him for a very good reason.

Ayers has been a ST demon, and has made his fair share of D plays, considering his opportunities. 

Ayers/Jones/Kramdi  is not a LB corps I'm worried about fielding.
 
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Pete

The thing that is concerning is who do we have behind Jones? Gautier isn't an every down mlb. We are getting thin at this posion along with DE

J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 02, 2024, 05:59:58 AMI forgot about Kramdi, he may now be the "brains" of the Ayers-Jones-Kramdi operation.  And Gauthier when he's in for special sets.  MOS has touted Kramdi as critical to the whole operation.

I do believe you need a "QB of the D", and you can usually see them pointing and yelling out positional adjustments to other guys.  Biggie does that all the time.

The DC can make calls all they want, and unit coordinators can bark out orders, but if things aren't 100% perfect once they get out there, it's up to the "smart guys" on the D to correct it, as well as dealing with pre-snap motion/changes by the O.

Oh yeah, it's wild! The offense sets up, the D audibles, the O sees the D adjust and audibles, then the D audibles again ... the two sides trying to outsmart one another. It's a chess game out there. LOL! I love it!
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on October 02, 2024, 04:33:31 PMThe thing that is concerning is who do we have behind Jones? Gautier isn't an every down mlb. We are getting thin at this posion along with DE

 I think Ayers moves to MLB and Cole moves to WIL if we suffer another injury. However I don't know if we've heard that Bighill is finished for the season.

For all we know he's back this week. I'm not expecting that but I wouldn't rule out anything quite yet.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 02, 2024, 04:43:04 PMI think Ayers moves to MLB and Cole moves to WIL if we suffer another injury. However I don't know if we've heard that Bighill is finished for the season.

For all we know he's back this week. I'm not expecting that but I wouldn't rule out anything quite yet.

We have.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/winnipeg-blue-bombers-lb-adam-bighill-announces-season-ending-knee-surgery-1.2176592

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pete on October 02, 2024, 04:33:31 PMThe thing that is concerning is who do we have behind Jones? Gautier isn't an every down mlb. We are getting thin at this posion along with DE

Max Charbonneau is listed on the depth chart behind Gauthier, he has great size and played well in the pre-season games but can't say I've noticed him much during the regular season.  Gauthier has filled in adequately for entire games the past few years without causing any terrible breakdowns.  As long as he's spelled out on passing downs I don't think there would be any cause for alarm if he was forced to start.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on October 02, 2024, 04:29:02 PMI think Griffin is BA's replacement eventually. 
 

Great interview with BA, did not realize he's made Wpg. his permanent home for the last 3 years.


Blueforlife

Quote from: theaardvark on October 02, 2024, 04:29:02 PMI think Griffin is BA's replacement eventually. 

I always liked Kramdi's "boom".  He brings it big time, and his smart play is paying off as well.  He still gets in trouble a bit, biting here and there on plays, but makes up for it right away.  He seems to get better after an oopsie.  It seems to me that when I notice him for a bad readon, the next play I notice him for a very good reason.

Ayers has been a ST demon, and has made his fair share of D plays, considering his opportunities. 

Ayers/Jones/Kramdi  is not a LB corps I'm worried about fielding.
 
When I mentioned Kramdi's ability to think the game I also wanted to post what you mentioned.  He has the grit and the ability to jolt guys.  He has the motor.  Agree when he failed he improves.  A gem of a find for us.  Lots of bird for folks to eat on Kramdi but thanks giving is coming so I won't mail any out.  LOL
You are right that trio is just fine.
Quote from: Pete on October 02, 2024, 04:33:31 PMThe thing that is concerning is who do we have behind Jones? Gautier isn't an every down mlb. We are getting thin at this posion along with DE
we have depth in many developing names just no stars (yet), non issue handled internally
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 02, 2024, 04:43:04 PMI think Ayers moves to MLB and Cole moves to WIL if we suffer another injury. However I don't know if we've heard that Bighill is finished for the season.

For all we know he's back this week. I'm not expecting that but I wouldn't rule out anything quite yet.
something like that yes
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 02, 2024, 04:45:45 PMMax Charbonneau is listed on the depth chart behind Gauthier, he has great size and played well in the pre-season games but can't say I've noticed him much during the regular season.  Gauthier has filled in adequately for entire games the past few years without causing any terrible breakdowns.  As long as he's spelled out on passing downs I don't think there would be any cause for alarm if he was forced to start.
Gauthier a beast against the run, yes issue is pass D.  Hopefully Max can develop.  Next man up is working in Bomberland and has for years. 

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blueforlife on October 02, 2024, 07:23:56 PMGauthier a beast against the run, yes issue is pass D. 

Since Bighill's been out Gauthier has a grand total of 2 defensive tackles (5 for the entire campaign) but sure, what a beast.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 02, 2024, 07:41:03 PMSince Bighill's been out Gauthier has a grand total of 2 defensive tackles (5 for the entire campaign) but sure, what a beast.

To be fair Gauthier hasn't played that many snaps this season, even when listed as the starting MLB earlier in the season when Bighill was out with injury, other LB's were taking the vast majority of the snaps.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 02, 2024, 07:41:03 PMSince Bighill's been out Gauthier has a grand total of 2 defensive tackles (5 for the entire campaign) but sure, what a beast.
Gauthier is a beast against the run imo, he can plug the gaps and has the size to tackle.  Speed is his issue.  You just don't appear to like him.  Can't all be stars.  A good depth player.  Stats don't always paint the complete picture.  See below. I have defended him for years and Briggs before (opposite good against pass).

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 02, 2024, 08:17:05 PMTo be fair Gauthier hasn't played that many snaps this season, even when listed as the starting MLB earlier in the season when Bighill was out with injury, other LB's were taking the vast majority of the snaps.
He isn't interested in being fair it appears.  You make some great points here, thanks!  The power of this club is the rotation.  Everyone gets reps, everyone contributes, everyone develops, vets get a break.  It's working like clockwork.  I judge this club as a whole, wins and loses and winning is all we do.  Great time to be a Bomber fan.

Pete

The issue with Gautier is his speed, he just doesn't get to the ball carrier in time. even more an issue with pass protection. Ayers is too light to play mlb consistantly to meet rbs head on and is much more suited to the wil lb as is Cole. As far a Charboneau they don't seem to be using him in other than special teams so he's not a legitimate option at the current time.

Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Blueforlife on October 02, 2024, 08:23:15 PMGauthier is a beast against the run imo, he can plug the gaps and has the size to tackle.  Speed is his issue.  You just don't appear to like him.  Can't all be stars.

I don't dislike him. I even had a nice lunch with him this spring. He's a super nice guy and has recently started an electical company with his brother-in-law. He's on his 8th season in the CFL, all with Winnipeg. Married a woman from Winnipeg.

I am just pointing out I don't believe he's a "beast" against the run with five tackles all year and two in the last five weeks. And okay, sure, he hasn't taken a lot of defensive snaps. Would you like to venture a guess as to why that might be?

dd

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 02, 2024, 09:59:37 PMI don't dislike him. I even had a nice lunch with him this spring. He's a super nice guy and has recently started an electical company with his brother-in-law. He's on his 8th season in the CFL, all with Winnipeg. Married a woman from Winnipeg.

I am just pointing out I don't believe he's a "beast" against the run with five tackles all year and two in the last five weeks. And okay, sure, he hasn't taken a lot of defensive snaps. Would you like to venture a guess as to why that might be?
Gauthier is a run stopper, so he comes in on predominantly 'run' downs ie short yardage situations. And he really brings the lumber in these situations. In passing situations, with his slower speed , he doesn't fair as well, so others are substituted in in these plays.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: dd on October 02, 2024, 10:12:50 PMGauthier is a run stopper, so he comes in on predominantly 'run' downs ie short yardage situations. And he really brings the lumber in these situations. In passing situations, with his slower speed , he doesn't fair as well, so others are substituted in in these plays.

He really "brings the lumber" on whom? Did I miss the open field Gauthier hit package or something? He's a beast of a run stopper? When? Where? The plays don't exist.

Look, he's got 10 special teams tackles this year which is nothing to sneeze at. He's a heart and soul guy. Lifetime Blue Bomber. Obviously an endearing player. Not taking anything away from him there. But you can awknowlege and appreciate the player without pretending he's something he's not.

You can't be a "run stopping MLB" if you don't have tackles. You can't be a "beast against the run" if you don't actually stop the run in games.