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[TecnoGenius]

Wilson and Wheatfall will be on an ELC and on the 2nd year of their contracts. So there won't be any issue in retaining them.

That could also make them very juicy trade-baits if we keep both Kenny & Schoen!

[TecnoGenius]

His name is Nik Demski, who's made more than his share of great plays this year.

Demski is clutch, but he is definitely not the guy you want to take huge punishment in the middle all night long.

[TecnoGenius]

I believe we have just witnessed the best game of Lawler's career, he may play another 4-5 years but I suspect he'll never again reach the excellence he touched last game.

Nah, Kenny has done this stuff before, and he'll do it again.  We just need to hope it's with greater frequency!  And that he repeats it in playoffs/GCs.

[DM83]

He's had four years to get with the program. That three prior years.  He's in a roster because if his size. You have to ask why Wpg gave up on the guy.

[GOLDMEMBER]

I believe we have just witnessed the best game of Lawler's career, he may play another 4-5 years but I suspect he'll never again reach the excellence he touched last game.

why do you think that?

[Jesse]

I love Schoen and what he brings, but to play devil's advocate, I think it depends on his price. He suffered a serious injury (?ACL) . I'll assume he comes back 100% but thats not a given. If he is asking for Lawler/Lewis money (285-300,000), I would rather just role the dice on Wilson, Wheatfall and Lawler as our 3 import receivers. That would save us over 200,000, since the 2 W's are on rookie contracts. We are only going to play 3 import receivers, and I'm not convinced the fall off from Schoen to the 2 W's is large enough to warrant spending this much money. Lawler, Wheatfall, Wilson, Demski, Wolitarksi, and Sclercius is a pretty good group.

On the other hand, if he ends up missing part of the 2025 season this will lower his cost to us I guess. Plus he may sign for a more reasonable number, especially coming off injury. And they may decide to go all in for the home Grey Cup, salary cap be damned.

That said, our offence fell off precipitously this year with all those guys in the line-up. We've never seen Lawler play a full season and Wheatfall may have that injury bug too.

But I guess we won't be able to roster all of those American receivers assuming everyone is healthy, so Walters (again) has his work cut out for him.

[Pete]

Nah, Kenny has done this stuff before, and he'll do it again.  We just need to hope it's with greater frequency!  And that he repeats it in playoffs/GCs.

One of the main factors I saw last game was Zach was throwing it to a spot where he could use his ability
In previous games Zac was throwing almost directly at him in coverage resulting in knockdowns and too many interceptions.

[Pigskin]

KL89 isn't having his best year as a Bomber. Probably due to the fact that he missed a number of games. 

28/46, 371 yards, 13.3 Avg, 35 longest. 130 yards was his best game of the season. Before that 64 yards.

In 4 years with the Bombers (47 games). KL89 has only had 5, 100 plus yard games. Which was very surprising to me.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

BOO was hit & miss when here, and he was just hit & miss for HAM the other night.  He dropped 2 important balls early in the game, but had a critical catch at the end, and drew a critical DPI too.

He has to really up his game if he wants to remain in the league with the crop of promising NAT Rs coming up every year.  Clercius already seems more reliable in his 1st year compared to BOO's first year.

Clercius is a bit fortunate that he's had the opportunity to play Woli's 5th receiver part for two stints already in his first season, if it wasn't for those injuries we may have had the opportunity to see him play. Woli probably has 2-3 years left before he retires, so likely Clercius remains a backup replacement until either him or Demski are gone.

[peg_city]

I was thinking they try to re-sign both.

Bighill's money will go to Ford (Ford may end up in the NFL or sign with a team closer to home though).

I'm wondering if Stanley will retire. He's 38 and will be 39 next year. If he doesn't, I'm thinking he'll get less money next because he missed a few games this year and probably won't get an all-star nod.

Randolph will take Loften's spot. That extra money will go to Dobson, who will get a raise.

I think we can afford to keep both Lawler and Sheon. Wheatfall will be the extra, in case someone gets injured.

Whitehead will be replaced by an NFL cut, rookie or that NFL cut we have on the PR.

[Jesse]

KL89 isn't having his best year as a Bomber. Probably due to the fact that he missed a number of games. 

28/46, 371 yards, 13.3 Avg, 35 longest. 130 yards was his best game of the season. Before that 64 yards.

In 4 years with the Bombers (47 games). KL89 has only had 5, 100 plus yard games. Which was very surprising to me.

Kenny's always been a "what if he puts it all together?" player

He still hasn't.

But let's see how we end the season.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

why do you think that?

The stars aligned and the Bombers scored more than 50 points, how often does that happen?  Don't know how poor the Elks played to achieve that score but their secondary play was pretty loose.  I'm sure Lawler will make big catches in almost every game he plays but I don't think he'll ever put together a better game than he did this weekend, that was his masterpiece.

[GOLDMEMBER]

The stars aligned and the Bombers scored more than 50 points, how often does that happen?  Don't know how poor the Elks played to achieve that score but their secondary play was pretty loose.  I'm sure Lawler will make big catches in almost every game he plays but I don't think he'll ever put together a better game than he did this weekend, that was his masterpiece.

Did you even watch the game? Yes there were some open receptions but Lawler in particular had some amazingly high traffic catches. I don't see why he would not have a similar game to this in the future. You've eaten plenty of turkey before I'm sure you will again.

[dd]

I was thinking they try to re-sign both.

Bighill's money will go to Ford (Ford may end up in the NFL or sign with a team closer to home though).

I'm wondering if Stanley will retire. He's 38 and will be 39 next year. If he doesn't, I'm thinking he'll get less money next because he missed a few games this year and probably won't get an all-star nod.

Randolph will take Loften's spot. That extra money will go to Dobson, who will get a raise.

I think we can afford to keep both Lawler and Sheon. Wheatfall will be the extra, in case someone gets injured.

Whitehead will be replaced by an NFL cut, rookie or that NFL cut we have on the PR.

My question is, given their injury history why would you want to sign both?? Lawler seems to be hitting his stride now, lets see how the season plays out (does he get another injury, do we win the GC), and if he stays healthy, I'd keep him and let Schoen decide whether he wants to play here for XX amount of dollars, but I certainly wouldn't be backing the truck up for him. Our recieving corps is doing quite well without him, and $$ saved could go towards replacing Jeffcoat with a stud DE

[Blueforlife]

You do realize we over paid Lawler to get him back in 2023. He is a generational receiver. So over paid is only a point of view.  I don't know that either Santos-Knox or Sankey would cost any more than Bighill. I'm just saying they should be consider if they reach free agency after we assess what develops going into 2025.

Bighill might not accept a lesser role and / or reduced contract, he may choose to retire.

Free agency is a fluid situation. Who is available and an up grade is a moment by moment analysis with a big influence from SMS spend etc.

Overall LB's are not usually the best paid players on defence. However that's for Walters to determine whether we want to acquire a player or not.

Given another example: would we be interested in seeing Grant return in 2025?

I am happy with our LBs.  Continue to develop and should work out fine.  Kramdi is good, Jones is good.  Just need a 3rd piece that is good (develop and be patient would be my method).  I know Kenny is well paid, stating the obvious there.  He is worth every penny.  I would pass on high paid talent at LB.  Maybe Biggie is back, maybe not, either way he has created a legacy at his position just like Harris did.

That could also make them very juicy trade-baits if we keep both Kenny & Schoen!

Wilson has some value, Wheatfall not yet imo
I would keep both if we can! That's our future, sign em before they are too $