Trade deadline - Oct 1st

[gobombersgo]

Farhan Lalji:

With the @CFL trade deadline on Oct 1, multiple teams have reached out to @BCLions in the past month to gauge the availability of VA. BC is not interested in moving him this season.

[gobombersgo]

With no teams eliminated yet, will anyone be sellers after this week's games?

[TecnoGenius]

With no teams eliminated yet, will anyone be sellers after this week's games?

GMs have to balance being realistic with their post-season chances vs making moves that will give them an advantage next season.

Even if CGY, EDM and HAM are in the hunt, another loss each this week and they are likely (de facto) done.  And even if they made it to the playoffs, they probably don't go far.  None is looking like MTL in '23, stomping all over everyone in the last 6 weeks.

So I think at least 1, maybe 3, of those teams will be open to talks starting Sunday.  A super-old but great vet who is off-contract in a couple of months would be ideal GC-stock-up fodder for the GC hopefuls (i.e. us) (think: Geroy Simon in '13).  CGY has quite a few of those, especially on D...

BC will never and should never give up VAJ until the season's over.  They are still GC favorites to some degree, and Rourke is one scramble away from tubsville.  Or he could just outright stink up the joint -- then BC could trade him away in FA, not VAJ!

[blue_gold_84]

A rental DE would be a nice addition.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

A rental DE would be a nice addition.

Agreed. If we're going to make a move that seems logical although something tells me O'Shea is not one for airlifting in help at the deadline. He's going to reward the players who have turned it around.

[blue_gold_84]

Agreed. If we're going to make a move that seems logical although something tells me O'Shea is not one for airlifting in help at the deadline. He's going to reward the players who have turned it around.

[Pete]

Cfl trade deadline - nonevent

[theaardvark]

Cfl trade deadline - nonevent

Wonder if TSN will have a trade deadline show...

[Blue In BC]

Wonder if TSN will have a trade deadline show...

LOL. Not likely. It's a non event most years. This year probably even more so since all teams still have some play off hopes.

A few will quite possibly be eliminated this weekend. Edmonton and Hamilton are sitting on a razor's edge right now. So there might be some desire to eliminate some SMS.

Just a couple of examples: If Hamilton loses, do they try to trade BLM for a bag of old footballs? It wouldn't seem like they expect him back in 2025.

Same question for Edmonton: Ford may not be the future but neither is MBT and he's a higher SMS hit than Ford.

Acquiring one of those QB's is only of value to a team needing a # 2 that is going to the play offs.

Any trade after the games this week would be for only 3 remaining regular season games. So it's an interesting question but it depends on the games this weekend to see which teams get eliminated.

[Blue In BC]

Ottawa just reported that D. Brown is in a walking boot and Masoli will be starting. I wonder if Brown will end up on the 6 game IR and will he be able to play again this season?

Ankle injury could be anything from a week to several months of recovery.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Ottawa just reported that D. Brown is in a walking boot and Masoli will be starting. I wonder if Brown will end up on the 6 game IR and will he be able to play again this season?

Ankle injury could be anything from a week to several months of recovery.

That's a 2 or 3 times Dru Brown has been knocked out of action this season, his toughness might be his weakest attribute, he doesn't crumple well.  Zach looks like an ironman in comparison.

[blue_gold_84]

That's a 2 or 3 times Dru Brown has been knocked out of action this season, his toughness might be his weakest attribute, he doesn't crumple well.  Zach looks like an ironman in comparison.

Not sure I'd qualify a late headshot as proof Brown isn't tough. And IIRC, this most recent injury is related to the last one he sustained against the Riders (ankle), who aren't exactly known for playing cleanly vs. opposing QBs.

[VictorRomano]

And IIRC, this most recent injury is related to the last one he sustained against the Riders (ankle), who aren't exactly known for playing cleanly vs. opposing QBs.

Not just that - the guy who took out Dru Brown's knee was Miles Brown - the same guy who headshotted Collaros in the LDC, and also took out Streveller's knee the next week in the Banjo Bowl.

[Jesse]

GMs have to balance being realistic with their post-season chances vs making moves that will give them an advantage next season.

Even if CGY, EDM and HAM are in the hunt, another loss each this week and they are likely (de facto) done.  And even if they made it to the playoffs, they probably don't go far.  None is looking like MTL in '23, stomping all over everyone in the last 6 weeks.

So I think at least 1, maybe 3, of those teams will be open to talks starting Sunday.  A super-old but great vet who is off-contract in a couple of months would be ideal GC-stock-up fodder for the GC hopefuls (i.e. us) (think: Geroy Simon in '13).  CGY has quite a few of those, especially on D...

BC will never and should never give up VAJ until the season's over.  They are still GC favorites to some degree, and Rourke is one scramble away from tubsville.  Or he could just outright stink up the joint -- then BC could trade him away in FA, not VAJ!

But what is the benefit of moving a player and "giving up"?

What is being sent back? Draft picks? Does a mid-round draft pick really move the needle to move a player?

The nature of the CFL makes trade deadline deals difficult to make beneficial for both sides.

[theaardvark]

But what is the benefit of moving a player and "giving up"?

What is being sent back? Draft picks? Does a mid-round draft pick really move the needle to move a player?

The nature of the CFL makes trade deadline deals difficult to make beneficial for both sides.

With DP's the only thing you lose (besides money) for overspending your $SMS, they do have some value now...

[Blue In BC]

But what is the benefit of moving a player and "giving up"?

What is being sent back? Draft picks? Does a mid-round draft pick really move the needle to move a player?

The nature of the CFL makes trade deadline deals difficult to make beneficial for both sides.

Reducing their SMS could be used for re-signing some of their potential free agents. That in turn allows spending that difference on actual free agents.
Depending on who is traded you might get a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. In re-build mode you need all the draft choices you can get.

[Jesse]

Reducing their SMS could be used for re-signing some of their potential free agents. That in turn allows spending that difference on actual free agents.
Depending on who is traded you might get a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. In re-build mode you need all the draft choices you can get.

I guess that's the argument for it. But we don't exactly see it happen too often, so it doesn't seem like something GMs value.

[Blueforlife]

Do we have an extra pieces that are worth shopping for a draft pick?

[Blue In BC]

Do we have an extra pieces that are worth shopping for a draft pick?

I don't think so because of our large IR list. I think contending teams won't want to trade players for draft picks. They might consider trading draft picks if there is an obvious chance to upgrade their current roster in both the short and long term.

Example: The Lions won't trade VAJ for some top draft picks until after the season. He may be needed to play this season.

We'll see how the Elks and Ti Cats do this week. If the view is that both those teams lose and are likely out of playoff contention they might be shuffling the deck somewhat.  Stamps are in the same situation if the Riders win.

I don't see anything big on the horizon but if some teams are looking at 2025 then anything is possible.

Do you have any suggestions about who you think might be trade bait for the Bombers? Part of the question would be how would we back fill that role now if we trade for picks in 2025.

That requires an evaluation of our IR if someone is due to come off and our PR I suppose.

[Blue In BC]

Further hypothetical thoughts on a trade I might be interested in:

If Casey Sayles is coming off the 1 game IR and in the last year of his contract, he would be an upgrade to our DL.

A conditional trade based on whether he re-signs in Winnipeg or is just an end of season rental for a draft pick TBD.

Now it's possible that the TiCats get eliminated this weekend. Even so they may feel they want to extend him. OTOH, they may feel they want another draft pick and a shift in where 2025 SMS is spent.

I think Adams and Woods are going to be good players but Sayles is better today which would be the point. We could shift one of those DT's to the 1 game IR or PR to retain them for injury insurance and into 2025.

Do I think it happens even if the TiCats are eliminated? No, but like I said it's just a thought of where we could use a veteran upgrade.

Where we might need an upgrade is contingent on whether we suffer another serious injury. So the need could change this weekend before the deadline.

Aside from Cole and Woli I don't know that we'll see any of our IR players healthy this season.

[DM83]

Edmonton  blew their wad on a couple  receivers that  basically shot the bed.  We could use one of them.
Secondly an impact end or tackle on defense, would be an upgrade on three of the four def. linemen.
Lastly a punt returner.   

[Pete]

guys i would be interested in:
Elks:  Purifoy a veteran who could shore up numerous positions
       Javon Leake
       Oakman dline
Stamps: Zac Richardson Oline
        J howsare dline
        M Tietz lb
Ticats  Hendrix or Sayles dline
        Powers qb

[M.O.A.B.]

Im will be interested with Janarion Grant but I dont think he will be available.

[TecnoGenius]

I don't think so because of our large IR list. I think contending teams won't want to trade players for draft picks. They might consider trading draft picks if there is an obvious chance to upgrade their current roster in both the short and long term.

I think after the last few years of good drafting that we can afford to trade away our 2+ round DPs for win-right-now GC-run talent.  I don't think there's any players we have that we can afford to give up, given our IR situation, unless there's someone we really don't like and wanted to cut anyhow.

The reason I'd keep our 1RDP is we will want to get a top OL.  Our NAT OL hopper is basically empty, and we'll probably lose at least 1 guy in FA like we always do.

However, I'm extremely happy that Lofton and Randolph have proven to be pretty darn good, and both probably have a role here into the future.

[TecnoGenius]

If Casey Sayles is coming off the 1 game IR and in the last year of his contract, he would be an upgrade to our DL.

I would jump on Sayles.  However, were there whispers Lawson was possibly coming back before EOS?  If Lawson is ok, the need for a splash DT is somewhat diminished (though not eliminated... it's still our biggest need along with DE IMHO).

Cats seem very happy with Sayles, though, and I think he's part of their long term plan.  He's often the only one not quitting on that D.

Where we might need an upgrade is contingent on whether we suffer another serious injury. So the need could change this weekend before the deadline.

Don't say it!  Don't even think it!  Go throw some salt over your shoulder or something.

[TecnoGenius]

guys i would be interested in:
Elks:  Purifoy a veteran who could shore up numerous positions
      Javon Leake
      Oakman dline
Stamps: Zac Richardson Oline
        J howsare dline
        M Tietz lb
Ticats  Hendrix or Sayles dline
        Powell qb

I bolded the ones we'd both need and I'd like.  Howsare is meh, lost 2 cups against us doing nothing.

If the worst happens, I'm all over Powell.  Dolegala ain't gonna get us a cup, and neither will rookie Wilson.  Strev at least gave us some hope, being a Ford-like mobile QB, but who actually isn't tiny & fragile.  But he's toast, so...

Jones is doing well @MLB so far... but things are now iffy & tentative at both MLB and WILL, with very little in the way of backups.  Are there any MLB/WILLs worth looking at on those 3 teams?  (...not named Tietz.)

[Blue In BC]

I don't think anyone gets traded before their games this week although there might be early discussions. On Sunday there are a few days left to pull the trigger on trades if situations have changed.

Sometimes you see a " starter " sit out in a surprise situation that might indicate a possible trade on the horizon.

Let's the dice roll.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I would jump on Sayles.  However, were there whispers Lawson was possibly coming back before EOS?  If Lawson is ok, the need for a splash DT is somewhat diminished (though not eliminated... it's still our biggest need along with DE IMHO).

Cats seem very happy with Sayles, though, and I think he's part of their long term plan.  He's often the only one not quitting on that D.

Don't say it!  Don't even think it!  Go throw some salt over your shoulder or something.

Sayles left to get paid more money, nothing has changed and the Bombers still can't afford to pay him what he wants.  Throughout the roster it's important they invest time to make their budget players work out in order to finance their more expensive players, and they now have a good young core of DT's that will carry them through.

[Blue In BC]

Sayles left to get paid more money, nothing has changed and the Bombers still can't afford to pay him what he wants.  Throughout the roster it's important they invest time to make their budget players work out in order to finance their more expensive players, and they now have a good young core of DT's that will carry them through.

1. If he gets traded he has no choice.
2. After this week there are only 3 regular season games, so that's 1/6 of his annual salary.
3. I did mention that if he was healthy and in the last year of his deal he'd be a rental.
4. Nothing says we have to retain any specific player after the end of the season. If we do it could require a renegotiation.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

1. If he gets traded he has no choice.
2. After this week there are only 3 regular season games, so that's 1/6 of his annual salary.
3. I did mention that if he was healthy and in the last year of his deal he'd be a rental.
4. Nothing says we have to retain any specific player after the end of the season. If we do it could require a renegotiation.

Pie-in-the-sky, the Ti-Cats are not going to throw a well established vet player like Sayles life into chaos by trading him a month before the season ends when they most likely want to retain him for next season.  The Bombers would also be unlikely to sign him and dump him in the off-season, not their style.

[Blue In BC]

Pie-in-the-sky, the Ti-Cats are not going to throw a well established vet player like Sayles life into chaos by trading him a month before the season ends when they most likely want to retain him for next season.  The Bombers would also be unlikely to sign him and dump him in the off-season, not their style.

I already said that. It was a hypothetical suggestion that had many if's involved. Those include if he was a potential free agent and the TiCats were choosing to let him depart in free agency.

It's the age old question is can any team spend their SMS in a more cost effective way.

Posters have mentioned this with Lawler as their current example of not being able to produce at the level expected at his salary.

While this isn't that issue for Sayles in Hamilton but if they finish out of the play offs they have to re-think where to spend SMS.

Bombers did that when he left in free agency. This year they did that with Jeffcoat and Hardrick.

[Pigskin]

I already said that. It was a hypothetical suggestion that had many if's involved. Those include if he was a potential free agent and the TiCats were choosing to let him depart in free agency.

It's the age old question is can any team spend their SMS in a more cost effective way.

Posters have mentioned this with Lawler as their current example of not being able to produce at the level expected at his salary.

While this isn't that issue for Sayles in Hamilton but if they finish out of the play offs they have to re-think where to spend SMS.

Bombers did that when he left in free agency. This year they did that with Jeffcoat and Hardrick.

Sayles would be a big get just before the playoffs. 60 games, 139 DTs, 23 Sacks, 2 FF. However, I can't see it happening.

[TecnoGenius]

The Bombers would also be unlikely to sign him and dump him in the off-season, not their style.

Tru dat.  Which is a bummer.  Many teams load up on the rentals when they have a good GC shot.  You can argue the 2 rentals pushed MTL over the top and stole a cup from us who did no rentals.

The only problem with rentals is preferably they are on their last year of contract, or have zero guaranteed SMS$ in 2025.  You don't want a rental that you're then stuck with way above your planned cap structure next year!

I don't think players would mind being tossed around like this... they go from losing teams to GC-bound and potential ring-winning with only 6 weeks of effort.  And if both teams (and player) wink & nod they can go right back to the other team next FA...

[ichabod_crane]

guys i would be interested in:
Elks:  Purifoy a veteran who could shore up numerous positions
       Javon Leake
       Oakman dline
Stamps: Zac Richardson Oline
        J howsare dline
        M Tietz lb
Ticats  Hendrix or Sayles dline
        Powers qb

Oakman was available FOR NOTHING ONLY A few months ago when Toronto cut him....not even a sniff by the Bombers as  far as I know 🤔....he would have been a great upgrade in the middle DL I think.

Can Jimmi in Hamilton also play guitar?!   Did not know Austin Powers played QB...OH BEHAVE!

[theaardvark]

This is not like the NHL where there are long term guarantees teams are trying to dump.  Or even short term contracts that are cap related.  Or MLB or NBA where a single player makes a huge difference.

I'm not saying a trade can't happen, but the reasons for a trade are fewer and further between.  Its usually as perfect storm of one team having a vast excess at a position, often due to the return of an injured player, and another having a rash of injuries.  Like Zac's arrival here.

With everything so close, and the rash of injuries lately, I'd be surprised to see any movement.

That said, there might be some "trades" that happen around PR players, or outright plucks.

[Blue In BC]

Tru dat.  Which is a bummer.  Many teams load up on the rentals when they have a good GC shot.  You can argue the 2 rentals pushed MTL over the top and stole a cup from us who did no rentals.

The only problem with rentals is preferably they are on their last year of contract, or have zero guaranteed SMS$ in 2025.  You don't want a rental that you're then stuck with way above your planned cap structure next year!

I don't think players would mind being tossed around like this... they go from losing teams to GC-bound and potential ring-winning with only 6 weeks of effort.  And if both teams (and player) wink & nod they can go right back to the other team next FA...

Nobody suggested dumping any player acquired in trade after the season. Using Sayles was just an example if and only if the TiCats had decided to trade him, he'd be an upgrade.

As mentioned above it would be preferable that a given player was at the end of his current contract.

That re-sets the goal posts which would allow a chance to re-sign a given player or lose him in a bidding war in free agency.

Sayles has been very productive in Hamilton and you'd think they will want him back in 2025. That said, there may have already been discussions and they feel that won't happen ( just pure speculation ). That's just the nature of free agency. Teams lose players they want to keep but there are gains and losses during free agency.

I don't think that is the case with  Sayles looking to leave. It would be interesting to see what their potential free agency list looks like and what it might cost to retain some of that group.

[theaardvark]

in 2013, the Bombers (last in the east) traded Alex Hall to the Rider (GC winners) for Pat Neufeld.  Hekped SSK win at home, and Neufeld has been a long term boon for the Bombers.  Walters first trade, IIRC.

Getting Collaros from the Argos for a swap of a 3rd (upgraded to a first when Collaros signed) for a fifth round pick is probably the most consequential trade in recent CFL history.  At the deadline, Collaros had no spot on the Tor roster (MBT, Franklin and Prukop) so moving him made sense.  That first rounder that Pinball got was Chuchill (played a few games, now out of the league) the fifth we got back, Marc Liegghio.

Not expecting any action at the deadline, but you never know.



So sometimes trades work

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

in 2013, the Bombers (last in the east) traded Alex Hall to the Rider (GC winners) for Pat Neufeld.  Hekped SSK win at home, and Neufeld has been a long term boon for the Bombers.  Walters first trade, IIRC.

Getting Collaros from the Argos for a swap of a 3rd (upgraded to a first when Collaros signed) for a fifth round pick is probably the most consequential trade in recent CFL history.  At the deadline, Collaros had no spot on the Tor roster (MBT, Franklin and Prukop) so moving him made sense.  That first rounder that Pinball got was Chuchill (played a few games, now out of the league) the fifth we got back, Marc Liegghio.

Not expecting any action at the deadline, but you never know.

So sometimes trades work

Not certain, but I think that Sask. trade for Neufeld happened towards the end of the current regimes first season together.  They started off their rookie year by trading Jade Etienne to the Riders for the rights to negotiate with Drew Willy before he reached free agency.

Blast from the past, stumbled upon the name Addison Richards, 6'-4" 217 lbs receiver drafted from Regina right after Demski who couldn't stay off the injury list long enough to establish a career.

[TBURGESS]

Everyone talks about who we should trade for, but no one talks about who or what we'd trade to get them. 

I don't see us making any trades.

[Blue In BC]

Everyone talks about who we should trade for, but no one talks about who or what we'd trade to get them.

I don't see us making any trades.

I touched on that initially saying that due to our large IR we were very unlikely to trade anyone from our roster. Any trade would have to use neg list or draft choices.

It could be argued that we have 6 or 7 potential starters on our 6 game IR. It's possible that some team might be interested in someone on our PR but those players have little trade value.

Bottom line is that I don't see anything for the Bombers on the horizon. There are very few rosters spots where we might want to upgrade which makes finding a match is slim to none.

[TecnoGenius]

Everyone talks about who we should trade for, but no one talks about who or what we'd trade to get them.

I don't see us making any trades.

I did... you trade your 2nd round and worse picks for what you need.  Keep the 1st to get a great 1st round hoggie, which is all we need.

I agree that we almost certainly don't make trades.  Doesn't mean we shouldn't!

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Tru dat.  Which is a bummer.  Many teams load up on the rentals when they have a good GC shot.  You can argue the 2 rentals pushed MTL over the top and stole a cup from us who did no rentals.

The only problem with rentals is preferably they are on their last year of contract, or have zero guaranteed SMS$ in 2025.  You don't want a rental that you're then stuck with way above your planned cap structure next year!

I don't think players would mind being tossed around like this... they go from losing teams to GC-bound and potential ring-winning with only 6 weeks of effort.  And if both teams (and player) wink & nod they can go right back to the other team next FA...

That is just patently not true.

[Jesse]

I did... you trade your 2nd round and worse picks for what you need.  Keep the 1st to get a great 1st round hoggie, which is all we need.

I agree that we almost certainly don't make trades.  Doesn't mean we shouldn't!

And then the other team says give me your first rounder and a player or no deal.

[Blue In BC]

Calgary has lost any chance to be a crossover team. Their season chances now fall on beating the Lions this week.

Even then they need help from teams playing the Lions and the Riders.

Curtains are closing for the Stamps. Let the airlift begin. Could even see changes in the coaching ranks there to get a jump start on 2025.

Is Lapo's phone ringing yet?

[Blue In BC]

Will any team make any sort of significant trade today? It's crunch time.

[Jesse]

Will any team make any sort of significant trade today? It's crunch time.

Nope.

[theaardvark]

Watching the TSN coverage of "Trade Watch CFL 2024"...

Riveting

[TecnoGenius]

Is the deadline midnight (what TZ?) or like end-of-business (5pm eastern?)?

[ichabod_crane]

What? No Brock for Clements trade? Only crickets!

[TecnoGenius]

So, past midnight and not a single trade?  CFL is such a weird league.  Everyone is just content to stand pat, eh?

Well, I hope it works out for us this year!!  We ain't going to that cup and failing again, no way, no how.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

So, past midnight and not a single trade?  CFL is such a weird league.  Everyone is just content to stand pat, eh?

Well, I hope it works out for us this year!! We ain't going to that cup and failing again, no way, no how.

At this time I only see two teams dangerous enough to prevent another Bomber GC win, the Argos and the Als have strong enough defences when playing at their best to shut the Bomber offence O down.  If Kelly or Fajardo elevate their game and outperform Zach on that one day, anything can happen. If Zach elevates his game, no contest.

[Blue In BC]

At this time I only see two teams dangerous enough to prevent another Bomber GC win, the Argos and the Als have strong enough defences when playing at their best to shut the Bomber offence O down.  If Kelly or Fajardo elevate their game and outperform Zach on that one day, anything can happen. If Zach elevates his game, no contest.

I said it last year and I'll say it again this year. Injuries can derail the best of plans / chances. Bombers could well have won in 2023 if not for all those late season injuries. That's the key to have your best roster available to play.

Every one of us can name the players we can't afford to lose going into the playoffs. I think we've had our share of injuries already. Hopefully our luck has changes and we can go into the playoffs healthy.

[theaardvark]

So, past midnight and not a single trade?  CFL is such a weird league.  Everyone is just content to stand pat, eh?

Well, I hope it works out for us this year!!  We ain't going to that cup and failing again, no way, no how.

This year, the league is so tight that there isn't a single "seller".  And with one year and non guaranteed deals, so much less incentive to trade.  And the IR's on every team are pretty long, so there are fewer assets to trade, and more "help on the way" with players healing before the playoffs.

It takes a perfect store for a trade i the best of times.  Getting a late pick for Dru on an expiring deal was our last trade, right? Turned into Ethan Kalra, who is back at Waterloo this year.

[dd]

Collaros is just hitting his stride now with our offense. If he stays healthy, I don't see anyone touching us. We have a  pound it out run game, and kicker who can make them consistently from the 50, all Collaros has to do is not turn the ball over and its over.

[Stats Junkie]

To BC - Jeshrun Antwi
To Mtl - 3rd round pick (2025)

https://www.bclions.com/2024/10/02/lions-acquire-running-back-jeshrun-antwi-from-montreal/

Deadline is 6pm ET

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

To BC - Jeshrun Antwi
To Mtl - 3rd round pick (2025)

https://www.bclions.com/2024/10/02/lions-acquire-running-back-jeshrun-antwi-from-montreal/

Deadline is 6pm ET

Good pick up for the Lions, solid Natl. running back who comes with his own trick play.

[theaardvark]

So, BC gave away a third rounder... because they need to keep their first and second rounders to forfeit for going over the cap by a bundle

[J5V]

Collaros is just hitting his stride now with our offense. If he stays healthy, I don't see anyone touching us. We have a  pound it out run game, and kicker who can make them consistently from the 50, all Collaros has to do is not turn the ball over and its over.

Dangerous talk. It's never over until it's over.  :-)  Just kidding. You're right. We've caught fire and won 7 in a row. I just hope we haven't peaked too soon and can keep it going. We need to be at our best for the playoffs and especially the Grey Cup if we're fortunate enough to make it there. Kicking in a dome might mean Castillo is money from 60-65. No wind to mess with your ball in a dome.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Dangerous talk. It's never over until it's over.  :-)  Just kidding. You're right. We've caught fire and won 7 in a row. I just hope we haven't peaked too soon and can keep it going. We need to be at our best for the playoffs and especially the Grey Cup if we're fortunate enough to make it there. Kicking in a dome might mean Castillo is money from 60-65. No wind to mess with your ball in a dome.

Domes are notorious for dead air, Medlock couldn't make it from 58 yds. and I doubt Sergio can make it from much longer than 55. I would hope O'Shea does not casually use the long FG strategy in a playoff game were a long return can be soul crushing in a tight game, prefer punt and pin, grind and win.

[J5V]

Domes are notorious for dead air, Medlock couldn't make it from 58 yds. and I doubt Sergio can make it from much longer than 55. I would hope O'Shea does not casually use the long FG strategy in a playoff game were a long return can be soul crushing in a tight game, prefer punt and pin, grind and win.

Yes that's a fair comment however I believe the CFL record is a 63 yard FG by Paul McCallum kicked in the dome at BC Place.

[bunker]

Yes that's a fair comment however I believe the CFL record is a 63 yard FG by Paul McCallum kicked in the dome at BC Place.

McCallum kicked a 62 yarder when he was a Rider, at Taylor Field

[Stats Junkie]

Paul McCallum was originally credited with a 62 yard FG. In 2023, McCallum convinced his buddy Steve Daniel to re-evaluate the distance of the kick and it was adjusted to 63 yards because it was ruled that the ball was closer to 63 than 62.

My measurements put the front of the kicking tee closer to the 62 yard distance but my opinion doesn't count. I also disagree with changing any stats after the fact.

The longest FG at BC Place is officially scored as 56 yards by Richie Leone. The ball was placed 55 yards & 1 foot away and every media person in Vancouver listed it as a 55 yard FG that night.

Based on warmups I've seen of Sergio Castillo at BC Place, his range appears to be about 58-59 yards.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes that's a fair comment however I believe the CFL record is a 63 yard FG by Paul McCallum kicked in the dome at BC Place.

Interesting, do you know if the dome was opened or closed at the time?

[Jesse]

Interesting, do you know if the dome was opened or closed at the time?

Read Stats Junkies comment. It didn't happen.

[J5V]

Interesting, do you know if the dome was opened or closed at the time?

Apologies. It was Paul McCallum but at Taylor Field not BC place. That's what I get for trusting an AI search engine.  ;-(

"BC Place CFL Longest Field Goal
According to the search results, Paul McCallum holds the record for the longest field goal made in the Canadian Football League (CFL) at 62 yards, achieved on October 27, 2001, during a game against the Edmonton Eskimos at Taylor Field (now known as Molson Stadium). Although BC Place is the home stadium of the BC Lions, the record mentioned above was set at a different venue.

There is no record of a 63-yard field goal made by Paul McCallum at BC Place, as stated in one of the search results. The 62-yard record remains the longest field goal made in the CFL, and it was achieved at a different stadium.

Note: BC Place does not have a specific record for the longest CFL field goal, as the 62-yard record mentioned above was set at a different venue."

[J5V]

The longest FG at BC Place is officially scored as 56 yards by Richie Leone.

Many thanks for the correction.

[J5V]

McCallum kicked a 62 yarder when he was a Rider, at Taylor Field

Yes, correct. My bad.

[TecnoGenius]

To BC - Jeshrun Antwi
To Mtl - 3rd round pick (2025)

Deadline is 6pm ET

The announcement was on the 2nd with zero word (like here or 3down) on the 1st.  Was the deadline really the 2nd not the first?

As for Antwi, BC just bought the Antwi Antics trick play.  100% BC uses that trick in the post-season and we better be darn ready for it.  I want to see our SAM, WILL or DB just clobber him.  Hallett would be a great choice as he's so quick at closing the distance.

[TecnoGenius]

So, BC gave away a third rounder... because they need to keep their first and second rounders to forfeit for going over the cap by a bundle

Ok... here's a question then:

What happens if BC trades away their 1st and/or 2nd rounder and then lose them in 4 months for being over cap?

Seriously.

No matter what happens, they got the benefit of playing Antwi the rest of the season!

This is a serious flaw in the (very lax and lame) cap-overage penalties.  If I was BC, I'd trade my #1/#2 DPs away immediately for whatever pie in the sky player they want to save their season.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

McCallum kicked a 62 yarder when he was a Rider, at Taylor Field

Wind aided no doubt, likely 20-25 kph. With hurricane wind conditions at his back I wouldn't be surprised if Sergio could kick a 70 yd FG.

[theaardvark]

Long field goals do not rely on still air, but wind aid.  Medlock's miss from 60+ was because he changed his approach, taller tee and put more arch into it.  It was a technical flub more than anything to do with it being a dome.

[TecnoGenius]

Did BC pull a fast one sniping Antwi from the team they would face if they make the cup?  Like TOR grabbing Agudosi for no reason late last season...

Now they have the entire up-to-date MTL O playbook.  Convenient.

(Ya, many don't believe that happens, but why wouldn't a player spill the beans?  Especially if they feel slighted.)

Good thing we'll beat BC in the WDF, eh!  (If they even make it that far!)  The Antwi Antics won't save them, IMHO.

[Jesse]

Did BC pull a fast one sniping Antwi from the team they would face if they make the cup?  Like TOR grabbing Agudosi for no reason late last season...

Now they have the entire up-to-date MTL O playbook.  Convenient.

(Ya, many don't believe that happens, but why wouldn't a player spill the beans?  Especially if they feel slighted.)

Good thing we'll beat BC in the WDF, eh!  (If they even make it that far!)  The Antwi Antics won't save them, IMHO.

It's the first thing any player does. The argument is that it doesn't matter much.

[ichabod_crane]

Ok... here's a question then:

What happens if BC trades away their 1st and/or 2nd rounder and then lose them in 4 months for being over cap?

Seriously.

No matter what happens, they got the benefit of playing Antwi the rest of the season!

This is a serious flaw in the (very lax and lame) cap-overage penalties.  If I was BC, I'd trade my #1/#2 DPs away immediately for whatever pie in the sky player they want to save their season.

Probably falls into the next season is my guess or some verbiage in the league rules that covers such a scenario. Then you've lost TWO YEARS IN A ROW two top picks in each draft....not a good idea! Refer to CRYDERS in 2013 putting all chips in to win that GC....then sucked for several years after that.  If it gets you a Cup I guess worth it, but if you want more consistency as a team to draw a season ticket base then not a great idea.

Trade deadline has already passed though, so don't even think you can do a futures trader at this point anyway. 

[TecnoGenius]

Probably falls into the next season is my guess or some verbiage in the league rules that covers such a scenario. Then you've lost TWO YEARS IN A ROW two top picks in each draft

Well, you didn't really "lose" the 1st year's top DPs, as you traded them for valuable league-leading players.  If they do like you say you still only lose 1 year's worth of DPs (or equivalent DP value).

I bet the league never even thought of this scenario and it's completely unknown what will happen.  Too bad BC didn't trade for a 1st or 2nd RDP before the deadline... then we could have found out!

Also, if you're in win-now to-heck-with-next-season mode, you may be willing to take 1 or 2 years down the road punishments.  Like Wimpy in Popeye: I'll gladly trade you league-top players now for punishment in 1.5 years!