Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion

[Blue In BC]

Don't forget about Leake , elks turnaround coincided with adding him to the backfield. With Wilson coming out I wonder if Cole is ready?

Leake was on the 1 game IR so it's not certain whether he can play this week. He was reported as not football related. That could mean anything from the flu or a non illness but family issue.

[blue_or_die]

I was expecting us to lose the game in Edmonton and then have to absolutely win this week. Having won last weekend takes quite a bit of pressure off, And I think we can get it done with the home crowd behind them. That would complete the season series on all the western teams Which puts us in prime position as we go towards that first place finish and get that bye.

[Pigskin]

Looking forward to practice tomorrow.

[bunker]

Edmonton has a good O-line and like us likes to run heavy sets with 6-7 O-linemen, which resulted in some mismatches in the box since we were often only playing 3 linemen with 2 genuine linebackers and 7 db's. That accounted for some of their run success.

But on rewatching, a significant amount of their running success was due to Ford, who was able to freeze the DE's wide (Willy in particular) on the read option, creating space for Rankin. If they play MBT this week, we should find it easier to stop the run.

[dd]

Edmonton has a good O-line and like us likes to run heavy sets with 6-7 O-linemen, which resulted in some mismatches in the box since we were often only playing 3 linemen with 2 genuine linebackers and 7 db's. That accounted for some of their run success.

But on rewatching, a significant amount of their running success was due to Ford, who was able to freeze the DE's wide (Willy in particular) on the read option, creating space for Rankin. If they play MBT this week, we should find it easier to stop the run.

If they start MBT, we'll kill them. Ford gave them a chance as like you said, his run threat opened up space for others. MBT will be picked off repeatedly by our secondary. If I'm Edmonton, I start Ford...

[gobombersgo]

The game should be announced as a sell-out at any time now.

Just single tickets remaining.

[peg_city]

Get on your feet, bomber fans

[TecnoGenius]

Edmonton has a good O-line and like us likes to run heavy sets with 6-7 O-linemen, which resulted in some mismatches in the box since we were often only playing 3 linemen with 2 genuine linebackers and 7 db's. That accounted for some of their run success.

I rewatched to see what they were doing and it's just their 7 OL (or TE) bullying our guys around.  They were getting OL on DBs and creaming them.  They were holding like mad in the mayhem.  They were driving DBs down the field next to the carrier in a semi-illegal holding/pushing manner.

They were showing sets where the 7th OL was in the FB position, but then just became another OL after the snap.

Our game plan is not to stop runs at the line: we plan on the LBers and DBs coming up and filling the holes.  But when every hole has a hoggie road-grading, that plan fails.  EDM is getting more numbers in there than we are, and they are out-sizing us at every level.

I'm not sure what the solution is.  But I know brawn isn't the answer.  Need some high-brain answer.  Is it legal for team B to low-block in the box (one on one of course)?  Maybe we need to start cutting some hoggies down when they first start the run play.  Make them think a little.

It's funny, if EDM had stuck to the plan and just thrown a lot less, I think they could have won that game, or at least been closer.  They were destroying us with the run and we had no answer, even with a couple of good at-LoS tackles.

But on rewatching, a significant amount of their running success was due to Ford, who was able to freeze the DE's wide (Willy in particular) on the read option, creating space for Rankin. If they play MBT this week, we should find it easier to stop the run.

Yes, but I don't think the RBs ever broke contain on Willie.  I think Ford did 1-2 times when Willie was being washed/held by OL, but it's impossible to win 100% of those battles.  Willie's job was to contain (and lane block / pass knockdown), and he did it.  If it meant the RB snuck through his gap, that was the plan.

Against MBT it will be a completely different plan.

[blue_gold_84]

Get on your feet, bomber fans

What about those of us who are already on their feet?

[GOLDMEMBER]

Another sell out! Wow just wow.

[blue_gold_84]

CFL Power Rankings ahead of week 17: https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/24/amsoil-power-rankings-a-land-of-opportunity/

1. WPG
2. MTL
3. EDM
4. HAM
5. OTT
6. TOR
7. BC
8. SSK
9. CGY

[Blue In BC]

Elks release O'Neal after his ejection last Saturday.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Elks release O'Neal after his ejection last Saturday.

He kind of got baited into that one but I suppose that sends a strong message. He was having a pretty decent rookie year, had a few starts at strong side linebacker and started at Texas A&M. Wonder if he ends up anywhere else. The Riders love guys that are hard to coach.

[kkc60]

Bombers need to bring in Adams for next week, especially if MBT plays. Gotta keep the DTs fresh and stop the run. Last week was inexcusable

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Bombers need to bring in Adams for next week, especially if MBT plays. Gotta keep the DTs fresh and stop the run. Last week was inexcusable

If Bethal-Thompson is the quarterback it will make run defense a bit easier. Part -- but not all -- of the issue was how wide we lined up to contain Ford. It mostly worked but left us a bit exposed to some of those B and C gap runs. With a traditional quarterback in the game we'll go back to a more traditional defensive front.

Edmonton is in a tricky spot. Don't play Tre Ford down the stretch and he probably tests free agency very seriously. Commit to him now and you probably don't make the playoffs but you keep the player happy.