MOP's 2024

[Jesse]

Does nothing but win and will get them to the GC?

He only has weaker stats because a) he missed a bunch of games, b) he's not a gun slinger.

Your argument against Brady is he doesn't have the stats, but your argument for Cody is he doesn't have the stats?

Cody has done nothing to deserve any MOP votes.

[TecnoGenius]

Sure, but MOP isn't given to the QB who's team wins the most. No doubt he's had a great season but MOP good? Not sure.

Ya, but no other QB is having much of a year either (after Dru's recent failures), and worst still, those other QBs (BLM/MBT) are losing games!  How can you give a QB who loses most games MOP, especially since that means a lot of yards are coming in garbage time?

Did Kelly fully earn the MOP in '23 or was it because his team was like 17-1 and he started almost every game?

[TecnoGenius]

Your argument against Brady is he doesn't have the stats, but your argument for Cody is he doesn't have the stats?

Cody has done nothing to deserve any MOP votes.

Hey, I'm fully onboard with y'all about Brady winning MOP.  I want him to.  I just think he'll need to do super-exceptional things down the stretch.  He hasn't earned it yet.  Don't take my word for it, just wait to see who the media votes for if he just keeps chugging the same old same old way.

Who won our forum MOP straw poll again?  Ya, wasn't it Cody?  And I didn't even vote for him there!

My main argument is Brady hasn't been exceptional (yet).  He hasn't missed more than 1ish games, so there's half the stats right there.  He's on a run-first O, so any RB we start is going to get stats.

I haven't looked at Cody's stats, but I bet if you extrapolate over the missed games his TD count and ratio would be pretty darn good.

Keep in mind, I hate Cody.  I think I hate him more than everyone here.  People get mad at me for hating him so much.  And here I am boosting him for MOP?  Only because if you look at it logically, he'll likely be the pick.  By all means, I hope many other players step up to steal it from him.  But until then, I bet he takes it.

[Jesse]

Ya, but no other QB is having much of a year either (after Dru's recent failures), and worst still, those other QBs (BLM/MBT) are losing games!  How can you give a QB who loses most games MOP, especially since that means a lot of yards are coming in garbage time?

Did Kelly fully earn the MOP in '23 or was it because his team was like 17-1 and he started almost every game?

Brady also should have won in '23. Complete QB bias. If we have made Collaros our nominee, it would have been hard to cast a vote for Kelly over Zach.


All that said, Kelly did play 18 games, and had some statistical success. Over 4000 yards and 10+ yards per attempt.

Cody is the bottom half of the league in measured statistics and his back-up was just as successful as he was. He has zero case.

[TecnoGenius]

Cody is the bottom half of the league in measured statistics and his back-up was just as successful as he was. He has zero case.

As Cody-hater-in-chief, I hope you're right!

Oh ya, the MOP/MOC is often the QB and/or coach who won the GC the previous year then has a good follow-up year.  That is the definition of Cody/Maas.  Look at the awards in '23 after the '22 GC upset win.

[Jesse]

Hey, I'm fully onboard with y'all about Brady winning MOP.  I want him to.  I just think he'll need to do super-exceptional things down the stretch.  He hasn't earned it yet.  Don't take my word for it, just wait to see who the media votes for if he just keeps chugging the same old same old way.

Who won our forum MOP straw poll again?  Ya, wasn't it Cody?  And I didn't even vote for him there!

My main argument is Brady hasn't been exceptional (yet).  He hasn't missed more than 1ish games, so there's half the stats right there.  He's on a run-first O, so any RB we start is going to get stats.

I haven't looked at Cody's stats, but I bet if you extrapolate over the missed games his TD count and ratio would be pretty darn good.

Keep in mind, I hate Cody.  I think I hate him more than everyone here.  People get mad at me for hating him so much.  And here I am boosting him for MOP?  Only because if you look at it logically, he'll likely be the pick.  By all means, I hope many other players step up to steal it from him.  But until then, I bet he takes it.

I admit to being biased against Cody, but I don't understand your arguments. I've never heard of a player winning MOP by extrapolating stats they "could have had".

When Nathan Rourke got injured, Zach won MOP. He didn't lose the West nomination because Rourke "would've/shouldve/could've got 6000+ passing yards, etc.

[bwiser]

Most Outstanding Player | Brady
    Most Outstanding Defensive Player | Tyrell Ford
    Most Outstanding Canadian | Ford
    Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman | Bryant
    Most Outstanding Special Teams Player | Castillo
    Most Outstanding Rookie | Wilson
    Coach of the Year | Younger (Bomber coach of the year)

This is the same picks I would make. Wilson and Castillo probably have the best chance of moving on to be the west representative. Bryant may get some votes as well for O line.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

This is the same picks I would make. Wilson and Castillo probably have the best chance of moving on to be the west representative. Bryant may get some votes as well for O line.

If the Bombers keep winning right through to the playoffs re-establishing their dominance and Brady keeps putting up good numbers he will definitely have a good chance of emerging as the MOP in the West as well as MOC by default.  It's too late for Rourke to do enough and there really is nobody else that stands out this season, voters will agree to choose the most consistent performer at least in the West.

[blue_gold_84]

Oliveira for MOP.

[TecnoGenius]

Well, Riderfans MOP thread had Brady on the short list... so I guess he's a legit option.  (They'd be loathe to add him if it wasn't a realistic possibility.)

They've come to the conclusion we have: it'll come down to who does the most exceptional stuff in these last 4 games.

[TBURGESS]

The QB with the best stats this year is BLM and it's not even a close race. 

Brady O's the top rusher, but his TD's are way down this year.

McInnis is the top receiver & Hardy's just a wee bit behind. 

I'd say those are the top 3 MOP's & I'd give it to BLM for having his best season since 2018 after being washed up for 3 years.  

[theaardvark]

The QB with the best stats this year is BLM and it's not even a close race.

Brady O's the top rusher, but his TD's are way down this year.

McInnis is the top receiver & Hardy's just a wee bit behind.

I'd say those are the top 3 MOP's & I'd give it to BLM for having his best season since 2018 after being washed up for 3 years. 

The only reason Brady's TD's are low is Streveler. In the first game with no Streveler, BO20 gets 2 TD's.  Chicken Box.

MOP doesn't rely solely on stats.  BLM may statistically be doing well, but his team results stink.  If he makes the playoffs and continues compiling his stats, maybe.  But I'm pretty sure BO20 is going to continue improving his yards and TD totals to the win.

[Jesse]

The only reason Brady's TD's are low is Streveler. In the first game with no Streveler, BO20 gets 2 TD's.  Chicken Box.

MOP doesn't rely solely on stats.  BLM may statistically be doing well, but his team results stink.  If he makes the playoffs and continues compiling his stats, maybe.  But I'm pretty sure BO20 is going to continue improving his yards and TD totals to the win.

Not really relevant in the MOP discussion. You get the TDs or you don't.

[TecnoGenius]

McInnis is the top receiver & Hardy's just a wee bit behind.

I'd say those are the top 3 MOP's & I'd give it to BLM for having his best season since 2018 after being washed up for 3 years. 

McInnis went from 130Y a game to 40Y a game.  He hasn't done squat in many, many weeks (except maybe 1 game).  If McInnis keeps this suckage up, how do you hand MOP to someone who got all their stats in weeks 1-8 but then dropped off like a rock?

IOW, I think being hot at the end of the season counts for more than being hot at the beginning, all else being equal.  Recency bias.  And excitement factor.

My prediction is McInnis won't be doing much in the remaining games because his chemistry was with VAJ.  Rourke seems to ignore him.

As for BLM: didn't he also throw a ton of INTs?  INTs and losing weigh heavily against you in the MOP race.  If a QB puts up 500Y passing every game but loses all 18 games, do they get MOP?  I'd say no.

[TBURGESS]

It's Most Outstanding Player, not MOP on a winning team. BLM's done way more on a bad team than any other QB has on winning teams.