Official Game Day Thread - Sask. at Winnipeg, (Banjo Bowl) September 7, 2024

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Quote from: Blue In BC on September 08, 2024, 01:43:37 AMThomas played well? He recorded no stats. Didn't get in the same postal code as Harris. He did squat against the run.

Jefferson was the only player on the DL to record a stat. All the DT's were by the DB's and a few by the LB's.

You can't keep saying these are not issues just because we won.

You commented that the offence didn't play well in the 1st half was over stated in the negative.   We were leading 13 - 3 at half time. 10 points were the result of early turnovers in good field position.

Collaros only threw for 103 yards in the 1st half. Play calling was suspect.

That's a bad 1st half in anybodies reasonable view.



Thomas is playing less snaps than ever, despite some posters saying "he's fine". In the three man rush we've been employing, he's often the odd man out.

We can agree or disagree with youngers 3 man DL solution, but they're  obviously not going to be picking up stats in this alignment.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2024, 09:13:08 AMI could have sworn Neufeld went down when I was at @PAS, and it looked somewhat bad.  But he did return to the game in 1-2 series.

Very strange, but I didn't notice this at all on TSN on my rewatch, but I wasn't really looking for it.  Did TSN miss it completely?  I guess I'll look for the plays where Eli was in for Neuf.

Yes he went down and came back.  Didn't miss much time.  Can't remember when.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2024, 09:08:58 AMYou can never judge Fatboi by the stats sheet.  I watched him keenly today (I usually do).  He was doing his normal Fatboi things that clearly many missed.

There was a Trevor turf-throw that was directly caused by Fatboi.  He was pushing his hoggie back on roller skates until he directly bumped into Trevor who was setting up to throw.  Ya, he pushed that guy back like 8Y like he was only 200 lbs.  Trevor had to turf it in a panic, and SSK was off the field.

So many other times SSK devoted 2 OL to Fatboi alone.  They don't do that if they think he's nobody: they'd double or triple Willie instead.  If Fatboi is tying up 2 hoggies, then he's helping us win the math game, and MOS is big on the LoS math.

I'm sure he did a lot more, too, but on first rewatch those are what stood out.  So at least 1 force-SSK-off-the-field, which is pretty darn good seeing as how SSK got maybe 9 drives the whole game?

Not saying he's the best... but I noticed him more than whoever our other DT was!!  Oh ya, and Schmeckel was getting manhandled and pushed around like a DB by the OL... so careful who you are criticizing!
Love some Thomas love my friend. He plays his role well.  He isn't a star and some like to rag on him on here.  A role player and key cog that never gets hurts, is very consistent and has always done what we ask of him.  Thanks for providing some much needed balance to the discussion here.  Props man. Nice to know he helped pressure Harris, he simply gets it done!  Sounds like he got in the same postal code on that play!

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2024, 09:21:31 AMI also saw (who I thought was) #0 Milligan take a knee and get help on the field, I think after a P or K play.  He gets help for a while and then the trainers leave with some other player and #0 was still on the field!

I noticed this stuff as I track injuries with my binocs @PAS and check the charts to see how much the team will be hurt.

I'm trying to find it on the broadcast, or at least a hint of it.  But I'm having trouble.  Did anyone remember around what time this occurred?  Anything shown on TSN?

I got really irate at the game and was then watching MOS to see if he noticed, and he seemed to be chirping to his closets ref, but not too angrily.  And nothing was done about it, though maybe #0 came out a play later.

What's the penalty for a team leaving a took-the-knee player in the game??  I've seen refs stop games before for this and force them out.  Did everyone botch this?

(There's a small chance the player had a number that ended in 0, not #0 exactly, as I never got a 100% clear look at it.)
Yes it was Milligan & no he didn't have to miss any plays.

A player must sit out 3 plays if the game is delayed to an injury (i.e. injury timeout). If the game is paused due to a scheduled TV timeout an injured player has until the end of the TV timeout to get back into the game. It only becomes an injury timeout if the game is further delayed when the TV timeout ends.

CTV showed an official communicating to O'Shea that Milligan got up before the TV timeout ended and that he could continue to play. The mic caught a portion if this.
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Calling Techno... Calling Techno.

Please post the hit on Strevy's knees. I thought the hit was at or above the knees, not below the knees. The strike zone for QB's is below the shoulders and above the knees. Are the arms considers part of the 'strike'? If so, then obviously a penalty. If not, then maybe not.

Nice win against a team that hasn't won in 7 straight games.

The Riders looked like they were taking charge of the game until the Strevy hit. Then we got pissed and took it out on them.

They beat us in Passing, net offence, first downs, & sacks. We beat them in TOP, picks and on the scoreboard. 

Tied for first in the West. I didn't think we'd get there this year considering our start. 
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Quote from: TBURGESS on September 08, 2024, 02:46:30 PMCalling Techno... Calling Techno.

Please post the hit on Strevy's knees. I thought the hit was at or above the knees, not below the knees. The strike zone for QB's is below the shoulders and above the knees. Are the arms considers part of the 'strike'? If so, then obviously a penalty. If not, then maybe not.

Nice win against a team that hasn't won in 7 straight games.

The Riders looked like they were taking charge of the game until the Strevy hit. Then we got pissed and took it out on them.

They beat us in Passing, net offence, first downs, & sacks. We beat them in TOP, picks and on the scoreboard.

Tied for first in the West. I didn't think we'd get there this year considering our start.
That cheap shot hit on Streveler seemed to fire up the crowd. It was never quiet in PSA but after that hit the volume went up dramatically and just got louder as the game progressed. That stadium has never been louder than it was in the last minute.

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Quote from: bwiser on September 08, 2024, 04:13:39 PMThat cheap shot hit on Streveler seemed to fire up the crowd. It was never quiet in PSA but after that hit the volume went up dramatically and just got louder as the game progressed. That stadium has never been louder than it was in the last minute.

Fired up the whole team.  We will never know but that might have been the turning point. 

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Thanks for posting that.  Get a true assessment when in comes from players.  Especially ones we trust.

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Doug Brown mentioned on the CJOB postgame show that if he was in that situation he probably would get flagged as well. He didn't think that there was anything that could be done to avoid the hit.
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Maybe that hit wasn't so bad but the Riders are still trashy. Eric Lofton posted on social after the game that Baldonado was spitting on him.

They don't play the right way. Always nasty rumours around that organization.

Bluehawk

Enjoyed the rewatch on the pvr today.  Couldnt help but laugh everytime it was mentioned how good the support of the Rider fans in attendance.  I havn't missed a banjo bowl in years and this was by far the smallest green attendance to date.  Small green eyesore group together below the rum hut in the endzone but other than a few greenies here and there, that was it.  Perhaps there were not a lot of seats available as our Bomber fans sold this out back in June.
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Quote from: Bluehawk on September 08, 2024, 05:58:45 PMEnjoyed the rewatch on the pvr today.  Couldnt help but laugh everytime it was mentioned how good the support of the Rider fans in attendance.  I havn't missed a banjo bowl in years and this was by far the smallest green attendance to date.  Small green eyesore group together below the rum hut in the endzone but other than a few greenies here and there, that was it.  Perhaps there were not a lot of seats available as our Bomber fans sold this out back in June.
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That is true and I also think that Manitobans know that if you want to go to the Banjo Bowl you have to get tickets as soon as they go on sale because that game always sells out and usually weeks before the game.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Stats Junkie on September 08, 2024, 02:00:24 PMYes it was Milligan & no he didn't have to miss any plays.

A player must sit out 3 plays if the game is delayed to an injury (i.e. injury timeout). If the game is paused due to a scheduled TV timeout an injured player has until the end of the TV timeout to get back into the game. It only becomes an injury timeout if the game is further delayed when the TV timeout ends.

Wow.  That's a new one for me!  Booth guys always explain it as "if the trainers hit the field, you're out for 3 plays".  Never thought of how the ad time would impact this.  But there it is in Article 8!

I guess they did get it done fast enough, because I can't find any hint of him ever being injured on the broadcast.

Strange injury that only takes 90secs to deal with...

Thanks for uploading the new useful info to my brain!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 08, 2024, 01:01:55 PMI know he often is taking up more than one DL but he's still ultimately washed out. Wash the 1st TD drive by the Riders and watch him in chase mode. That's what we see too often.

Fatboi does often have trouble shedding blocks, then again so does almost all our DL, and even LBers when plugging holes.  We haven't had a great shedder since probably Stove.  I guess Sayles was good too.

I don't hold it against him if he's being double-teamed... but we could, of course, wish he could better shed 1-on-1 blocks for running plays.

There were a few plays in the 4th (I think) where SSK was getting some good ground pounding going: I'll have to rewatch to see if Fatboi was any less useful than the other guys.  The fact that Hickson was getting a few 10s means that the whole DL was failing...
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