Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

[Pigskin]

Can Valardi stay healthy enough to be worth his contract? I'm having my doubts. 1G, 3A, in 9 games.

It wasn't just the playoffs with Appleton. Many times this season he ticked me off. 0G, 7A, in 13 games.

Same with Nino Niederreiter. 4G, 2A in 13 games ain't much and is actually less points than Appleton!

Morgan Barron, 2G, 2A in 13 games. Disappointing.
Iafallo, 1G, 1A, -4 in 13 games. Disappointing.

Chevy's pickups: (Got us a total of 1 Assists and -10 in 24 games total)
Brandon Tanev, 0G, 0A, 0P, -2 in 13 games. Good friggin bye.
Like Schenn, 0G, 1A, -8 in 11 games. Ribs or not, thanks for nothing.

True, NN62 had fewer points then Apps. But, so did VN7, CP91, and AL17.

[J5V]

The point is, with that severe a lack of production, this team needs some major upgrades if we're going to be serious about winning a cup and building anything close to a dynasty like what it appears Florida has done. Even if Hellebuyck played at Bobrovski's level in the playoffs Florida's level of production far exceeds anything we are capable of, presently constructed. Chevy, and Arneil, have to know this, therefore, let's get it done while this window is open and take advantage of the opportunity. We didn't make a serious move at the trade deadline and we now know what we have. It shouldn't be difficult to see what is required if we're serious about winning the West and giving it a serious, successful attempt at winning a cup or two.

[blue_or_die]

Your dreaming if you think VN7 is a second line C.  Just doesn't have the finish.  He not that good in the FO circle, he averages 10 goals a season.

I don't think aards is saying that Vladdy is a 2C, but rather the team clearly thinks he is, at least for the time being. I don't hate the deal we signed him for but given we're already loaded with bottom 6 guys, it seemed strange to prioritize his re-signing and I agree with aards that this kinda signals that he's the plan at 2C until Lambert or someone else steps up/is signed. I think we all hope the latter is what transpires and Vladdy can be a swiss army knife like Perreault whom we can plug and play anywhere in the lineup depending on the need of the day.

[blue_or_die]

Personally I don't think we saw our ceiling. I'm probably seeing things from behind my blue tinted sunglasses (which I literally own btw) but I saw a team face a ton of adversity - overcame lots of it but left lots on the table to work on next year. Playoff goaltending started to come together and we saw the team bounce back and find some ways to win when our backs were against the wall. The biggest disappointment was that we couldn't quite find that extra gear that a team like the Oilers can go to when needed in the playoffs, but they also took years to get the postseason experience to get to that point.

This can be looked at as glass half full or half empty, but we were in no way blown out of the water by Dallas. Looked like that would happen with St. Louis and it didn't, and every one of our games against DAL were very competitive which is either encouraging that we are indeed a big dawg, or disappointing that we couldn't have turned an L into a W here or there. That's what it came down to.

The glaring and most obvious shortcoming is playing a road game = L. We need a psychologist to shake that out of them if we want to go deep next year.

[blue_gold_84]

Giving Namestikov 2 yrs at $6mil says we are not looking for a 2C.

No, it doesn't. Since when is paying a forward $3M AAV a sign that he's locked in at 2C?

What an absurd claim to make.

[theaardvark]

Here's a guy I would take a run at. Manitoban, Morgan Geekie, 26, right shot, who can play RW or C. 6'3" 208, 33G 24A.

He has the wrong passport.  If he was Danish, or a Finn, or Swede, sure.  Even an American.  But a Canadian?  Local kid?  Really?

OK, for your hypothetical, what price, term and where in the lineup?

[theaardvark]

No, it doesn't. Since when is paying a forward $3M AAV a sign that he's locked in at 2C?

What an absurd claim to make.

Yikes. My bad.

I had thought he had signed for 2 years at $6mil per, not $6 total.

Yes. Lets find a 2C...

[theaardvark]

Tanev is not getting $3.5mil ever again. I'd like him at $1.5, he's a sparkplug and a great 3rd line agitator, 4th line energy guy that can occasionally pot one.

Appleton, the guy has upside, and while $2.16mil isn't a lot, it might be a little too much, again, at $1 - $1.5 he's a good Moose player that can handle a call up.  The missed series winner will haunt him here, I'm sure he'll find $2mil elsewhere.

[blue_gold_84]

OK, for your hypothetical, what price, term and where in the lineup?

This is exactly it. What's his ask - money and term - as a pending UFA? He's coming off a career season and I fully expect a bidding war, which would put the Jets at a disadvantage. Not to mention the Bruins are probably keen on keeping him.

He's got 2C potential but I'm not sure if he's a realistic target. The fact he's a Manitoban is immaterial, IMO.

[blue_gold_84]

First thing on Cheveldayoff's list should be to re-sign Samberg.

[theaardvark]

No reason to think Samberg or Vilardi will be tough to extend, its just whether to bridge of long term.

I think they both bridge, betting on themselves and the rising cap.  $4.5-$5mil each for 1 or 2.

[dd]

The Jets exceeded my expectations for this year--Arniel rookie season I thought if we make the playoffs and win the 1st round that would be great. We won the President's trophy and the first round albeit in overtime, and then lost in 2nd round.

Aside from MS55 and KC81, we lack a consistent offensive threat from any of the other lines. When you're on the road, its easy to shut down the other teams #1 line and they have to rely on their depth to score, we have no depth. Our #1 line can run up against anyones line and compete hard if not dominate the play, then we hold our breath for 3-4 minutes until they get out there again. This has got to change.

Just listening to the Leafs media whine about their woes, their second line has Taveres and Neilander, and they score 60 goals between the 2 of them, that's in addition to their #1 line. Our lines 2-4 would be lucky to produce 60 goals in total!! The Leafs are complaining about too many passengers, how many passengers do we have in our lineup 6-8 players?!?!?

We need an impactful physical forward, who can score as well as a dominant centre man who can win draws and score. I'd also be picking up a big, strong reliable defenseman to compliment our offensive gems in JM and NP

[Pigskin]

Top 3 to sign.

NE27  UFA  $6M
GV13  RFA  $3.4M
DS54  RFA  $1.4M

MB36  RFA  $1.3M.
MA22  UFA  $2.1M
HF24  UFA  $7.75
RK15  RFA  $1M

LS5  Signed for 2025/26 @ $2.75M
LS64 Signed for 2025/26 @ $1.25M

[Pigskin]

Where would Geekie fit in. Well that would all depend on what happens with NE27 and GV13. He's a right shot that can score. Something we are need of. He also the size we need. He's a natural C that can also play RW. Price tag probably $25-30M over 5 years. 

[dd]

Where would Geekie fit in. Well that would all depend on what happens with NE27 and GV13. He's a right shot that can score. Something we are need of. He also the size we need. He's a natural C that can also play RW. Price tag probably $25-30M over 5 years. 

He's a big bodied right handed shot who can score 33 goals a year, we'll find a spot for him!!

Kyle Connor scored 41 this year, Sheif 39, Eihlers 24, Valardi 27, perfetti 18, nameistikov 11, Barron 8, Kupari 5....I think we can easily fit him into our lineup and he'd be a SOLID 2nd liner for sure at wing or centre.