Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

Jesse · May 15, 2025, 03:58:23 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 15, 2025, 01:14:43 PMThis isn't all just on Hellebuyck.

I think the entire team could use a sports psychologist. Maybe there's a group discount.

It is not.

But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.

And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.

blue_gold_84 · May 15, 2025, 05:13:07 PM

Quote from: Jesse on May 15, 2025, 03:58:23 PMIt is not.

But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.

And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.

Totally agree with you.

He was the best goalie in the regular season. But that hasn't translated into the post-season - yet again.

The Jets were the best team in the regular season. But that hasn't translated into the post-season, which isn't all that different from a year ago.

And for me, the similarities are staggering:
- top end talent not showing up (Hellebuyck, Scheifele, Connor, etc.)
- special teams are terrible
- adherence to system/structure falls apart (especially when they're down a goal or two)
- depth not pulling its weight (Namestnikov, Perfetti, Appleton, Tanev, etc.)
- discipline issues and bad penalties

No tenacity. No sense of urgency. No compete level when it matters most.

As an aside, it's crazy how the Jets couldn't adjust to the Stars 11/7 line-up the other night. It looks the same for tonight, so I expect better.

Who knows, though. I'm getting tired of watching this team fail in the playoffs.

dd · May 15, 2025, 05:39:32 PM

Quote from: Jesse on May 15, 2025, 03:58:23 PMIt is not.

But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.

And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.

They actually pointed out last night on HNIC that he has the worst save % amongst current playoff goalies. So while it might not be totally his fault, a good amount of blame is justified. If we had Bob in net, I am thinking our record would be much much better than it is.

blue_gold_84 · May 15, 2025, 07:00:25 PM

Lines/D pairings for game 5:

Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo

Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Schenn

Hellebuyck

Time to dig deep, fellas.

blue_or_die · May 15, 2025, 07:06:38 PM

I'll chime in with an "LFG" here right now and a belief that it's not over until it's over. Crazier things have happened than winning 3 games in a row for this group. I owe them some real genuine faith here tonight and I'm going to give it to them.

"WE BELIEVE"...or at least I do.

LFG. GO JETS GO.

Jockitch · May 15, 2025, 08:11:50 PM

Get Ehlers with Scheif and KFC, move Vilardi with Names and Fetts
Let Names race around like a center but have Vil take faceoffs

Sadly it won't happen but geez I wish Kupari, our best at
faceoffs and a terrific hard hitting hustler could replace
Tanev, who just isn't effective

Soar Jets and Strike often

Jesse · May 15, 2025, 10:20:58 PM

Quote from: blue_or_die on May 15, 2025, 07:06:38 PMI'll chime in with an "LFG" here right now and a belief that it's not over until it's over. Crazier things have happened than winning 3 games in a row for this group. I owe them some real genuine faith here tonight and I'm going to give it to them.

"WE BELIEVE"...or at least I do.

LFG. GO JETS GO.

I don't believe but will happily be proven wrong.

I have faith in the Jets winning 3 straight games, it's that one road game that is really a sticking point.

dd · May 15, 2025, 10:38:00 PM

Ya, the win over St Louis was our miracle of the season, we won't get another one.

Jets needs to upgrade 2nd line centre to get/generate more offense, as the Jets are about as snake bit as the Leafs right now in terms of scoring goals

Pigskin · Last Edit: **Today** at 06:07:53 AM by Pigskin

Dominant win tonight. Helle was outstanding. PP and PK were both excellent. Excellent team win. Now win one in Dallas.