Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

[Pigskin]

I never thought this team would win the cup. Just not big enough and didn't do enough at the trade deadline. Our second line C probably doesn't even make the Dallas roster. Our D is small and can not clear big forwards from in front of the net. I also don't think 13,44,27, or 55 are 100%.

Watched the KC81 break away again. Heiskanen should have received a penalty for that big slash to KC81 hands.

[blue_gold_84]

Namestnikov is not a 2C. And that's only exacerbated when the top line struggles.

What's made this team successful in the regular season the last two years is not translating come playoff time. Or if it does, it's a flash in the pan and can't be maintained over a seven-game series.

It's as baffling as it is disappointing and frustrating.

[theaardvark]

I disagree on the the two softies. The first Stars goal was a puck he should had. But, the other two goals where excellent shots.

Glove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies.  Sorry.

[dd]

Glove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies.  Sorry.

I find it hard to believe Helleybuyck is even in the discussion for the Vezina trophy, he has been a total disappointment AGAIN in the playoffs. Was totally outplayed by Oettenger last night, AGAIN. So tired of all the ballyhoo and excuses.

[Jesse]

I find it hard to believe Helleybuyck is even in the discussion for the Vezina trophy, he has been a total disappointment AGAIN in the playoffs. Was totally outplayed by Oettenger last night, AGAIN. So tired of all the ballyhoo and excuses, as it doesn't really matter.

Because the Vezina has nothing to do with the play-offs and is voted on before they start.

[Jesse]

I wanted to believe otherwise, but we've shown again that the first round is this team's ceiling.

Based on match-up, we can sometimes get through to round 2, but as soon as the competition takes a step forward, we take a step back.

Oh well, it was a fun season and now we're 10 days away from watching the Bombers.

[blue_gold_84]

Glove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies.  Sorry.

Says the goaltending expert.

Because the Vezina has nothing to do with the play-offs and is voted on before they start.

Just ignore him and his bad faith posting. That was already pointed out right after the first round.

[Jesse]

Says the goaltending expert.

Just ignore him and his bad faith posting. That was already pointed out right after the first round.

I know, just gonna keep telling him though.

And don't get me wrong, Helle deserves his criticism. For as much as he's the reason we make it to the play-offs, he is a big part of these play-off failures.

[J5V]

It's all between the ears with Hellebuyck and I suspect he had been reading the media gushing all over him before the playoffs began. When he got destroyed by the Avs last year and he said he thought he was on his game and playing great I knew something wasn't right with this guy. We need a goalie whisperer or a hypnotist to work their magic and say something to Hellebuyck to help get his head right.

[dd]

It's all between the ears with Hellebuyck and I suspect he had been reading the media gushing all over him before the playoffs began. When he got destroyed by the Avs last year and he said he thought he was on his game and playing great I knew something wasn't right with this guy. We need a goalie whisperer or a hypnotist to work their magic and say something to Hellebuyck to help get his head right.

You're right, its all between the ears for sure. And as much as he wanted to prove to everyone that he could perform better and be the goalie we need in the playoffs this year, all he did was dig the hole deeper. And next year, do we really expect anything different??

[blue_gold_84]

This isn't all just on Hellebuyck.

I think the entire team could use a sports psychologist. Maybe there's a group discount.

[Pigskin]

Do or die tonight. I expect the Jets to come out with a lot of energy. There's been a few players missing in action offensively. Time to step up. PP has to get going. Can't have any D-zone break downs.

[theaardvark]

Literally a must win game tonite.

Literally.

[Jesse]

This isn't all just on Hellebuyck.

I think the entire team could use a sports psychologist. Maybe there's a group discount.

It is not.

But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.

And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.

[blue_gold_84]

It is not.

But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.

And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.

Totally agree with you.

He was the best goalie in the regular season. But that hasn't translated into the post-season - yet again.

The Jets were the best team in the regular season. But that hasn't translated into the post-season, which isn't all that different from a year ago.

And for me, the similarities are staggering:
 - top end talent not showing up (Hellebuyck, Scheifele, Connor, etc.)
 - special teams are terrible
 - adherence to system/structure falls apart (especially when they're down a goal or two)
 - depth not pulling its weight (Namestnikov, Perfetti, Appleton, Tanev, etc.)
 - discipline issues and bad penalties

No tenacity. No sense of urgency. No compete level when it matters most.

As an aside, it's crazy how the Jets couldn't adjust to the Stars 11/7 line-up the other night. It looks the same for tonight, so I expect better.

Who knows, though. I'm getting tired of watching this team fail in the playoffs.