Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

theaardvark · May 14, 2025, 03:50:44 PM

Need to start game 6 with line 3, then line 4, and get some hits and energy into the game.

Need to crash the net *effectively*, just being there is not enough. Need to cause havoc in the crease, and make Dallas start taking whacks at Jets.

Need to bring the heavy game. When you see a big hit and go, "Great", and then you see it is 27, you know something is not right.

Tanev, no debating his heart or his hustle, but he needs to be effective.

PP has to get a lot better. Is 13 fully healthy? Can he play netfront and get those garbage knock ins? He seems to be getting blown out.

Lastly, Helly HAS to steal one road game. ONE. He gave up a home game, needs to get that back. Two real softies last night is not Vezina/Hart play.

Pigskin · May 14, 2025, 04:23:56 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on May 14, 2025, 03:50:44 PMNeed to start game 6 with line 3, then line 4, and get some hits and energy into the game.

Need to crash the net *effectively*, just being there is not enough. Need to cause havoc in the crease, and make Dallas start taking whacks at Jets.

Need to bring the heavy game. When you see a big hit and go, "Great", and then you see it is 27, you know something is not right.

Tanev, no debating his heart or his hustle, but he needs to be effective.

PP has to get a lot better. Is 13 fully healthy? Can he play netfront and get those garbage knock ins? He seems to be getting blown out.

Lastly, Helly HAS to steal one road game. ONE. He gave up a home game, needs to get that back. Two real softies last night is not Vezina/Hart play.

I disagree on the the two softies. The first Stars goal was a puck he should had. But, the other two goals where excellent shots.

Pigskin · May 14, 2025, 04:29:41 PM

I never thought this team would win the cup. Just not big enough and didn't do enough at the trade deadline. Our second line C probably doesn't even make the Dallas roster. Our D is small and can not clear big forwards from in front of the net. I also don't think 13,44,27, or 55 are 100%.

Watched the KC81 break away again. Heiskanen should have received a penalty for that big slash to KC81 hands.

blue_gold_84 · May 14, 2025, 04:49:44 PM

Namestnikov is not a 2C. And that's only exacerbated when the top line struggles.

What's made this team successful in the regular season the last two years is not translating come playoff time. Or if it does, it's a flash in the pan and can't be maintained over a seven-game series.

It's as baffling as it is disappointing and frustrating.

theaardvark · May 14, 2025, 05:23:25 PM

Quote from: Pigskin on May 14, 2025, 04:23:56 PMI disagree on the the two softies. The first Stars goal was a puck he should had. But, the other two goals where excellent shots.

Glove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies. Sorry.

dd · May 14, 2025, 05:46:46 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on May 14, 2025, 05:23:25 PMGlove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies. Sorry.

I find it hard to believe Helleybuyck is even in the discussion for the Vezina trophy, he has been a total disappointment AGAIN in the playoffs. Was totally outplayed by Oettenger last night, AGAIN. So tired of all the ballyhoo and excuses.

Jesse · May 14, 2025, 06:08:51 PM

Quote from: dd on May 14, 2025, 05:46:46 PMI find it hard to believe Helleybuyck is even in the discussion for the Vezina trophy, he has been a total disappointment AGAIN in the playoffs. Was totally outplayed by Oettenger last night, AGAIN. So tired of all the ballyhoo and excuses, as it doesn't really matter.

Because the Vezina has nothing to do with the play-offs and is voted on before they start.

Jesse · May 14, 2025, 06:10:53 PM

I wanted to believe otherwise, but we've shown again that the first round is this team's ceiling.

Based on match-up, we can sometimes get through to round 2, but as soon as the competition takes a step forward, we take a step back.

Oh well, it was a fun season and now we're 10 days away from watching the Bombers.

blue_gold_84 · May 14, 2025, 06:22:36 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on May 14, 2025, 05:23:25 PMGlove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies. Sorry.

Says the goaltending expert.

Quote from: Jesse on May 14, 2025, 06:08:51 PMBecause the Vezina has nothing to do with the play-offs and is voted on before they start.

Just ignore him and his bad faith posting. That was already pointed out right after the first round.

Jesse · May 14, 2025, 06:46:50 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 14, 2025, 06:22:36 PMSays the goaltending expert.

Just ignore him and his bad faith posting. That was already pointed out right after the first round.

I know, just gonna keep telling him though.

And don't get me wrong, Helle deserves his criticism. For as much as he's the reason we make it to the play-offs, he is a big part of these play-off failures.

J5V · May 14, 2025, 10:28:37 PM

It's all between the ears with Hellebuyck and I suspect he had been reading the media gushing all over him before the playoffs began. When he got destroyed by the Avs last year and he said he thought he was on his game and playing great I knew something wasn't right with this guy. We need a goalie whisperer or a hypnotist to work their magic and say something to Hellebuyck to help get his head right.

dd · **Today** at 01:44:58 AM

Quote from: J5V on May 14, 2025, 10:28:37 PMIt's all between the ears with Hellebuyck and I suspect he had been reading the media gushing all over him before the playoffs began. When he got destroyed by the Avs last year and he said he thought he was on his game and playing great I knew something wasn't right with this guy. We need a goalie whisperer or a hypnotist to work their magic and say something to Hellebuyck to help get his head right.

You're right, its all between the ears for sure. And as much as he wanted to prove to everyone that he could perform better and be the goalie we need in the playoffs this year, all he did was dig the hole deeper. And next year, do we really expect anything different??