Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

[Jesse]

Wow, that was a nail-biter.

[blue_gold_84]

How could it be a trap game?

These are the Avs. They dunked on us in the play-offs last year. If you can't bring your A game tonight, when will you?

I mean, I think the results speak for themselves. By and large the Jets are the better team, but the Avs ran the table for the latter half of last night's game. And if not for Hellebuyck playing out of his mind, I don't think the Jets win.

The offense struggled more often than not last night, to the point Arniel shuffled the top lines.

Trap game, IMO. But they won, which is really all that matters.

13-1 and making history.

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/with-back-to-back-shutouts-winnipeg-jets-connor-hellebuyck-named-nhlpa-player-of-the-week-1.2201980

[Jesse]

I mean, I think the results speak for themselves. By and large the Jets are the better team, but the Avs ran the table for the latter half of last night's game. And if not for Hellebuyck playing out of his mind, I don't think the Jets win.

The offense struggled more often than not last night, to the point Arniel shuffled the top lines.

Trap game, IMO. But they won, which is really all that matters.

13-1 and making history.

We might just be getting out definitions messed up.

I consider a trap game a game against an inferior opponent who you play down to.

Colorado is a great team and it was going to be a tough game no matter how well we played.

[blue_gold_84]

We might just be getting out definitions messed up.

I consider a trap game a game against an inferior opponent who you play down to.

Colorado is a great team and it was going to be a tough game no matter how well we played.

Is that not what happened last night?

The Avs have a pretty formidable roster but they're currently dealing with a packed IR. From that standpoint alone, I would argue they're inferior when compared to the Jets.

[Jesse]

Is that not what happened last night?

The Avs have a pretty formidable roster but they're currently dealing with a packed IR. From that standpoint alone, I would argue they're inferior when compared to the Jets.

No, I certainly don't consider Colorado an inferior opponent.

[Jockitch]

Superb victory and so happy that Kupari got another
Shots were 12-2 at one point in favour of Jets but the Stars certainly kept getting better. The game was a HellB show in the third with a lot of careless play by our men

Great history making season so far

[blue_gold_84]

14-1 with an absolutely dominant showing over the Stars. 4th line was great and Hellebuyck was excellent yet again.

I can't even with this team right now.

First episode of Runway is a beauty:

[theaardvark]

Ugh, not this again.

Ehlers isn't competing for TOI with Connor the same way Namestnikov isn't competing with Scheifele for TOI. They're different players with different roles on this team. Do you not understand how lines work in professional hockey?

Let's dumb it down:
- Connor plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific opposing forward lines and defensive pairings during a game.
- Ehlers plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific ones as well, but they're different.

You can't just look at TOI and claim that 20% more ice-time absolutely automatically means 20% more shooting chances, much less the same percentage of incentives, records, etc. You're trivializing the complexities of roster/line management, which is impacted by numerous factors from one game to the next.

And Ehlers isn't subservient to Connor. What an incredibly weird thing to say.

Maybe ask yourself that question first before venturing into this thread and messily trying to dunk on others.

You are describing the current dynamic.  We know all that.  That is not the answer to my question.

I am asking a simple question:

Is this role that you describe Ehlers goal to play long term.  Is this CURRENT role one that Ehlers is happy with enough to sign here long term.  OR, does Ehlers want a different role on a different team.  A role with more minutes and more responsibility.

He IS the #2 LW on the Jets, responsibility wise, minutes wise...

Is he happy with that?  Or does he want more opportunity without someone parked ahead of him.

We have the budget to sign him for $8mil for 7 years, and should not be shy in offering that.  Will someone else covet him more?

[blue_gold_84]

You are describing the current dynamic.

It's the only dynamic that matters here and now.

Look, if Ehlers and his agent think they can hit UFA at the end of this season to try and get a bigger, better, more lucrative deal elsewhere, that's his prerogative.

But that conversation - either in part or in its entirety - is absolutely, unequivocally irrelevant right now. This team is making history and I am confident saying Ehlers is happy to be part of it and couldn't care less about his hypothetical role or responsibility on another team.

The question you're asking is not one I can answer.

FWIW: I don't think the Jets let him get to UFA.

[Pigskin]

Another excellent win for the Jets. Now 9 of the next 10 on the road.

[Jesse]

Another excellent win for the Jets. Now 9 of the next 10 on the road.

omg, really?

Let's go boys. I need nothing to kill my positive sports momentum this week.

[blue_gold_84]

Hellebuyck shines at MSG, so I like their chances tomorrow.

This upcoming stretch of games through the rest of November should be good battle testing for this team.

[Pigskin]

Crazy schedule coming up for the Jets. 3 away and 1 at home. Then 6 away and 1 at home. And then 2 more away before coming home for a couple of games. 

[Pigskin]

Stanley out again with an injury. Will miss at least the next three games.