Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

[theaardvark]

What does the former have to do with the latter? Ehlers is a pending UFA; Connor isn't.

KC will be the #1 line LW.  Forever.

Does Ehlers want the opportunity to be a #1 LW on a team, or is he content with #2 LW?

That will decide heavily if he resigns here, because if it is the former, there is no chance he signs here..

[blue_gold_84]

KC will be the #1 line LW.  Forever.

Does Ehlers want the opportunity to be a #1 LW on a team, or is he content with #2 LW?

That will decide heavily if he resigns here, because if it is the former, there is no chance he signs here..

Ehlers isn't competing with Connor; they're teammates with dedicated roles in the top 6. It's no different than when Scheifele wasn't competing with Dubois when you made the absurd claim the latter was the better player.

These narratives you spout when it comes to the Jets are hilariously off-base.

[Jesse]

Ehlers was upset about his minutes last season.

He also clarified that he does not care if he's a 20 minute player, but gets upset when it sinks below 16 minutes.

He's having a great start and minutes have been trending up; so as long as the money is there, I don't think he'll be opposed to signing with us. But can we make the financial side work?

[blue_gold_84]

Ehlers was upset about his minutes last season.

He also clarified that he does not care if he's a 20 minute player, but gets upset when it sinks below 16 minutes.

He's having a great start and minutes have been trending up; so as long as the money is there, I don't think he'll be opposed to signing with us. But can we make the financial side work?

That's interesting because he's averaging less TOI this season compared to last. Granted, it's marginal but I'd have to think it's immaterial. Especially when you consider he's on pace for a record season by an incredible margin.

I think the Jets will find a way to give him the raise he's earned.

[drahgon]

Sure hope so, he's a joy to watch. Salary cap continues to go up...

[theaardvark]

Ehlers isn't competing with Connor; they're teammates with dedicated roles in the top 6. It's no different than when Scheifele wasn't competing with Dubois when you made the absurd claim the latter was the better player.

These narratives you spout when it comes to the Jets are hilariously off-base.

How can you not understand that 2 LW on the same team are competing for playing time. Or that the #1 LW on a team will get more minutes?

#1LW on the Jets, KC81, gets 19.26 min a nite so far this season

#2LW on the Jets, NE27, gets 15.45 minutes a nite.

#4LW on the Jets AI9 get 11.46.

20% more icetime means 20% more chance to shoot and score.  And 20% higher chance to make incentives, records, etc.

Its the reality that what line you are one will dictate your time on ice.  And as long as KC81 is on the team, he will get more ice time than NE27. 

They are team mates with dedicated roles.  Yes.  Every player is a team player and makes his contribution to each game and win.

But does N@27 feel his role, subservient to KC81, is satisfactory, or would ha like to be in a position to get #1LW minutes.

Get it now?

[Jesse]

How can you not understand that 2 LW on the same team are competing for playing time. Or that the #1 LW on a team will get more minutes?

#1LW on the Jets, KC81, gets 19.26 min a nite so far this season

#2LW on the Jets, NE27, gets 15.45 minutes a nite.

#4LW on the Jets AI9 get 11.46.

20% more icetime means 20% more chance to shoot and score.  And 20% higher chance to make incentives, records, etc.

Its the reality that what line you are one will dictate your time on ice.  And as long as KC81 is on the team, he will get more ice time than NE27. 

They are team mates with dedicated roles.  Yes.  Every player is a team player and makes his contribution to each game and win.

But does N@27 feel his role, subservient to KC81, is satisfactory, or would ha like to be in a position to get #1LW minutes.

Get it now?

The extra time is PP minutes, not because of what lines they're on.

There are times this season where Ehlers has been "game-scripted" out a bit. Based on the success of the #1 PP and because of some road games where Arniel doesn't have the last change and can't line match as well.

This early in the season, that's kept his average minutes lower, but has been trending around 17 when everything goes according to plan. I think that's closer to where he'll be at year end.

[theaardvark]

The extra time is PP minutes, not because of what lines they're on.

There are times this season where Ehlers has been "game-scripted" out a bit. Based on the success of the #1 PP and because of some road games where Arniel doesn't have the last change and can't line match as well.

This early in the season, that's kept his average minutes lower, but has been trending around 17 when everything goes according to plan. I think that's closer to where he'll be at year end.

You realize that Ehlers is on the top PP line with Connor this year, right?  MS55. KC81, GV13, NE27 and JM44.

Now, if you said PK time, maybe I'd see that a little, but the top line RW who is not on the PK is Valardi at 18:36, and the to[ line C, MS55 is at 20:20

[blue_gold_84]

How can you not understand that 2 LW on the same team are competing for playing time. Or that the #1 LW on a team will get more minutes?

#1LW on the Jets, KC81, gets 19.26 min a nite so far this season

#2LW on the Jets, NE27, gets 15.45 minutes a nite.

#4LW on the Jets AI9 get 11.46.

20% more icetime means 20% more chance to shoot and score.  And 20% higher chance to make incentives, records, etc.

Its the reality that what line you are one will dictate your time on ice.  And as long as KC81 is on the team, he will get more ice time than NE27. 

They are team mates with dedicated roles.  Yes.  Every player is a team player and makes his contribution to each game and win.

But does N@27 feel his role, subservient to KC81, is satisfactory, or would ha like to be in a position to get #1LW minutes.

Ugh, not this again.

Ehlers isn't competing for TOI with Connor the same way Namestnikov isn't competing with Scheifele for TOI. They're different players with different roles on this team. Do you not understand how lines work in professional hockey?

Let's dumb it down:
- Connor plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific opposing forward lines and defensive pairings during a game.
- Ehlers plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific ones as well, but they're different.

You can't just look at TOI and claim that 20% more ice-time absolutely automatically means 20% more shooting chances, much less the same percentage of incentives, records, etc. You're trivializing the complexities of roster/line management, which is impacted by numerous factors from one game to the next.

And Ehlers isn't subservient to Connor. What an incredibly weird thing to say.

Get it now?

Maybe ask yourself that question first before venturing into this thread and messily trying to dunk on others.

[Pigskin]

 This will be a good test for the Jets tonight. 

[blue_gold_84]

This will be a good test for the Jets tonight. 

Makar a GTD. Even if he doesn't suit up, this feels like a trap game.

[Jesse]

Makar a GTD. Even if he doesn't suit up, this feels like a trap game.

How could it be a trap game?

These are the Avs. They dunked on us in the play-offs last year. If you can't bring your A game tonight, when will you?

[DCM]

Makar is in.

[Jockitch]

Fantastic entertainment with a truly terrific ending

Goaltending clinic. All fans got their $$'s worth

[Pigskin]

Jets had a very good 1st. period but after the 10 minute mark of the 2nd. period the Avalanche were the better team.

Helle with his 40th. shutout. 13-1.