Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

[theaardvark]

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ehlers get $8-9M on July 1. There will probably be a few teams vying for him.

Is he a top line winger?  On a bunch of teams he would be. I can see one of those offering more than we can.

Conner is getting $10+, maybe $11 for 8 years, for sure.  Giving Ehlers more than $8 means having too much of your cap in one position.

And he's had one complete season in the last seven.  He is averaging 62 games a season over that span.  So $7.5 would actually be more like $10 based on games played.

He's had a 29 goal season and a 39 assist season, and this was the first year he did anything in the playoffs.

Pragmatic Chevy will make an offer, but there is no doubt there is a team that wants him more.

I really, really want him on the team, I just can't see a way we make it happen, unless he wants to be here.  And much as the team is family, I've never seen Ehlers ice fishing with the boys, or being involved other than Fortnite with Laine.  So that card doesn't seem to play.

Sadly, we will miss him.  But its part of hockey.

Now, lets get Toews signed.

 

[blue_gold_84]

Is he a top line winger?

Not necessarily. He is undoubtedly a top 6 winger, though.

And with that in mind - and the upcoming free agent market and increasing cap - I fully expect offers in $8-9M AAV range even with his injury troubles.

I'm sure the Jets will make him an offer. I just don't see him taking it.

[theaardvark]

Not necessarily. He is undoubtedly a top 6 winger, though.

And with that in mind - and the upcoming free agent market and increasing cap - I fully expect offers in $8-9M AAV range even with his injury troubles.

I'm sure the Jets will make him an offer. I just don't see him taking it.

If you pay a top 4 Dman 7 mil, is a top 6 winger worth more?  Again, do you lose a player of his calibre for $1mil? 

If $7.5 makes sense, can you make $8.5 work?  Can you pay him the same as Helle and Scheiff?

I know each contract should be signed in a vacuum, regardless what other players on the team signed for, but can you?

I'd hate to lose him for $1 mil ($6-7 mil over the contract), but I guess it comes down to how does the money saved not signing him get spent, and does the organization have someone that can step in, either right away, or soon. 

Or is there a FA we can land for a year or two at $5 or $6 mil to play 2LW while we develop the next guy?

With Valardi, Samburg and Barron also needing deals this year, I can see signing those three coming ahead of signing one Ehlers, and his cap hit would make extensions rather than bridges possibly happen.

[blue_gold_84]

If you pay a top 4 Dman 7 mil, is a top 6 winger worth more?  Again, do you lose a player of his calibre for $1mil? 

If $7.5 makes sense, can you make $8.5 work?  Can you pay him the same as Helle and Scheiff?

I know each contract should be signed in a vacuum, regardless what other players on the team signed for, but can you?

I'm not a GM in the NHL, so those questions will probably go unanswered on here.

I also don't agree with the contract signed in a vacuum part. I think any GM worth his salt takes into considering the totality of things when it comes to contract management vis a vis the salary cap, roster implications, and player retention.

We all know how Cheveldayoff operates; this situation won't be any different, IMO. I'm sure he has already crunched the numbers, anyway, so we're stuck waiting to see how it plays out on July 1.

[theaardvark]

I'm not a GM in the NHL, so those questions will probably go unanswered on here.

I also don't agree with the contract signed in a vacuum part. I think any GM worth his salt takes into considering the totality of things when it comes to contract management vis a vis the salary cap, roster implications, and player retention.

We all know how Cheveldayoff operates; this situation won't be any different, IMO. I'm sure he has already crunched the numbers, anyway, so we're stuck waiting to see how it plays out on July 1.

By signed in a vacuum, I mean that just because player A got $8.5 million doesn't mean Player B can't gt $9 million. 

We've seen you can't "set the payscale standard" in a vacuum.  There's always going to be a team that overvalues someone, and a player that gives a "hometown" or "love my bros" team discount.  And the numbers don't always add up or make sense.

With 31 teams looking at your players, you have to spend and defend the ones you really need.  I think extending our RFA's takes precedent over everything right now.  And leaving enough in the cap to tie up Conner long term.  Maybe all at the same time.

Could you imagine signing all four of Connor, Samburg, Vilardi and Barron to 6-7 or even 8 year deals before FA starts?

Run Iafallo with Namestikov and Perfetti as your #2 line?

 

[blue_gold_84]

Run Iafallo with Namestikov and Perfetti as your #2 line? 

I sure hope not. We saw a similar plan play out pretty badly just recently.

Namestnikov isn't the answer at 2C. That position has to be upgraded.

[Pigskin]

I sure hope not. We saw a similar plan play out pretty badly just recently.

Namestnikov isn't the answer at 2C. That position has to be upgraded.

I agree.

[theaardvark]

Where would Toews slot in?  Could Lowry move up to 2nd line C?

Do we have any other prospect to come up to there?   Does Perfetti become our 2C?

[PloenFan]

Could Marco Rossi be an option ?

https://thehockeywriters.com/jets-should-target-marco-rossi-trade/

[Jockitch]

Just read a short piece that Freedman stated
Johnathon Toews has agreed to sign with our Jets.
Apparently nothing gets disclosed till July 1st but
the club announced he has agreed to a contract

TC crowds will be big and excited

[blue_gold_84]

Toews to join Jets on bonus-heavy deal worth up to $7M

Love this.

[Pigskin]

Toews to join Jets on bonus-heavy deal worth up to $7M

Love this.

Like it, and it's only a one year deal.

[blue_gold_84]

Like it, and it's only a one year deal.

Reasonable base with heavy incentives. Makes the most sense, IMO.

How many Toews jerseys get sold this summer? That's the real question.

[bomb squad]

Where would Toews slot in?  Could Lowry move up to 2nd line C?

Do we have any other prospect to come up to there?  Does Perfetti become our 2C?

Who knows? Could be #3, or #2. Or maybe goodbye, thanks for trying.  It all depends on what he can get out of his body, and how much he can play. Even he doesn't know. I'm really glad he chose Winnipeg though to give it a try. This is going to be an exciting off-season and training camp. Great move by the Jets.

It is possible to revive your career and produce at an advanced age. We need look no further than the old WHA Winnipeg Jets with Bobby Hull. 

[Pigskin]

Lowry also isn't a 2nd. line C. Love AL17, but he doesn't have enough finish to his game.