Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

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[blue_gold_84]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/winnipeg-jets/latest-news/assessing-the-jets-2024-25-day-by-day-schedule

[Pigskin]

Jets open camp tomorrow, and still no contract for CP91.

[DCM]

@mikemcintyrewpg
Ville Heinola has an infection in his ankle. "This isn't good," says #NHLJets coach Scott Arniel. Says it's far more than day to day.

[Pigskin]

@mikemcintyrewpg
Ville Heinola has an infection in his ankle. "This isn't good," says #NHLJets coach Scott Arniel. Says it's far more than day to day.

 Ville just can't catch a break.

[blue_gold_84]

Ville just can't catch a break.

Such lousy news. I was really hoping he'd crack the opening day roster this season.

Sounds like the team is pretty high on Lambert. Could be the 2C prospect the team needs.

[theaardvark]

What is Perfetti doing?  Does his agent know how time off the ice affects his future? The above post illustrates that his potential to break camp as the #2 C is more in jeopardy every passing hour. I really, really like the kid, and think he's going to be a good player, but in the NHL, you have to pay your dues and earn your deal.

He is RFA, he hasn't had a full healthy season to date, his number have been m'eh, but his opportunity to prove himself is only going to come if he plays.

They gave him $1.65mil/year for 3 years, and got 145 games and 75 points for it.  So while we all know there is potential there, he hasn't realized it.

If he's looking for a long term deal over $5mil, he's deluded.  He deserves a one or two year $3mil deal and a chance to earn a big contract.  The 24-25 Jets are going to be a feast day for young players, and he's got a chance to shine.

The only reason to hold out is if he thinks he can't compete or thinks he will get injured. Otherwise, take any deal, get on the ice, and make a name.

The reality of the NHL.

[blue_gold_84]

Perfetti hasn't shown he's capable of the 2C role. That said, he can still fill a vital role as a depth piece, IMO.

But him sitting out TC with these prolonged contract talks will not help his cause. I can't say I understand what he or his agent is thinking.

https://thehockeynews.com/news/rfa-lowdown-facts-stats-and-circumstances-facing-swayman-perfetti-and-alexandrov

The 22-year-old generated 19 goals and 38 points in 71 games last season, and the Jets have $5.77 million in cap space to bring him on board for 2024-25. Perfetti struggled later in the season, so he doesn't have the kind of leverage Swayman has in Boston. But a deal similar to what New Jersey just gave youngster Dawson Mercer – $4-million per season, for the next three years – could be enough to get a deal done for Perfetti.

Seems reasonable.

[theaardvark]

Mercer played 82 games a season, every season.  With 20+ goals in the last two. 

$4mil is too much, sorry.  That's what Neiderieter and Iaffalo make.  More than Valardi and Lowry.  Twice what Appleton makes.

2 years at $3.2 mil sure.  Give both sides a chance to see what he's really worth.

[blue_gold_84]

Mercer played 82 games a season, every season.  With 20+ goals in the last two. 

$4mil is too much, sorry.  That's what Neiderieter and Iaffalo make.  More than Valardi and Lowry.  Twice what Appleton makes.

2 years at $3.2 mil sure.  Give both sides a chance to see what he's really worth.

Perfetti's younger than all of them (some by a considerable margin) and is expected to have a higher ceiling, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with those comparisons. And consider the cap has gone up since those other contracts were tendered.

The comparison to Mercer's deal is likely a starting point; that doesn't mean he'll get $4M AAV.

[theaardvark]

Yes, he's younger. With a high ceiling, but as of yet unproven.  And often injured.

Giving him $3.2 would be paying him a premium on what he delivers, for the opportunity of the future, which they already have the rights to.

He got paid over what most get on their ELC's for that potential already...

[Pigskin]

$1.65M was with performance bonus. I don't think Cole ever received those PBs. His total NHL earning to date, $2.775 M. Which ends up to be $925K per.

I would be okay at $3M x 2 years. Other wise move him.

[blue_gold_84]

I think the often unfortunate reality for this organization - and market - is that it has to pay a premium to retain talent.

It's just the business of the sport, as disagreeable as I find it at times.

[Pigskin]

CP91 signs a 2 years, $6.5 M. Now, he has to go out and prove he's worth $3.25 per. 

[theaardvark]

Yes, he's younger. With a high ceiling, but as of yet unproven.  And often injured.

Giving him $3.2 would be paying him a premium on what he delivers, for the opportunity of the future, which they already have the rights to.

He got paid over what most get on their ELC's for that potential already...

Hmmm... I guess they gave him an extra $50k/yr just to make me wrong.

[blue_gold_84]

Hmmm... I guess they gave him an extra $50k/yr just to make me wrong.

Eh, I'm sure you're used to it by now.

Anyway, glad he's finally re-signed. Reasonable term and money. Now he has to earn it.

[blue_gold_84]

https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-make-first-cuts-of-2024-25-training-camp/

Training camp began last week with 53 players on the roster. After less than a week of skating and two pre-season games that number will now be reduced as Winnipeg has announced the following moves:

To Manitoba:
F – Chaz Lucius
F – Henri Nikkanen
F – Danny Zhilkin

Back to junior teams:
F – Kevin He
F- Jacob Julien
F – Connor Levis
F – Markus Loponen
F – Kieron Walton

The following four players have been released from their professional try-outs:
D – Dylan Anhorn
D – Dawson Barteaux
D – Ashton Sautner
F – Ben King

All four have AHL deals with the Moose and will be at their training camp.

The Jets now have 23 forwards, 13 defencemen, and five goalies remaining at training camp.

[Pigskin]

Lucius has been disappointing so far. 35 games of hockey in the past 2 years. Injury after injury. Needs to stay healthy and have a very good year with the Moose.

[Jockitch]

Gotta like the style of win last night.
Jets dressed the more experienced lineup and worked better as a team. Our #1 line dominated, Ehlers and Lambert certainly were decent together with Names. Defensively solid and I thought Lundmark had a very serviceable game paired with a good vet in Miller.
Still cheering for Kupari to prove himself and make this team

[Pigskin]

Stanley out for 4 weeks, with knee surgery.

Little to retire as a Jet.

[Jesse]

Stanley out for 4 weeks, with knee surgery.

Little to retire as a Jet.

Stanley out too?

Oi vey.

[J5V]

Stanley out too?

Oi vey.

Man! He was playing well too.

[blue_gold_84]

https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-make-third-cut-of-2024-25-training-camp-reduce-roster-by-7/

The Jets got down to 36 players last Sunday and today they have made a further reduction as follows:

G: Thomas Milic
D: Dmitry Kuzmin, Tyrel Bauer, Simon Lundmark
F: Dominic Toninato, AJF, Mason Shaw,

Four of which are on waivers for purposes of assignment to the Moose:

D – Simon Lundmark
F – Axel Jonsson-Fjallby
F – Mason Shaw
F – Dominic Toninato

And the other three are being assigned to Manitoba:

G – Thomas Milic
D – Tyrel Bauer
D – Dmitry Kuzmin

This leaves 29 players at Jets camp.

[blue_gold_84]

Winnipeg Jets unveil Ukrainian Heritage logo: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-ukrainian-heritage-1.7341115

[Jockitch]

Is Chevy watching the Waiver wire for a hidden gem ?    Such as a puck moving D-man
 
Who is going to be traded or waived and then picked up before he clears waivers ?

What's the fate of Iafallo and his $4.M tag, Kupari, Barron, is Lambert pushing into the opening roster (hope so)
Is Comrie capable of being the backup or is his use as a goalie mentor on the Moose ? 

[Jesse]

Is Chevy watching the Waiver wire for a hidden gem ?    Such as a puck moving D-man
 
Who is going to be traded or waived and then picked up before he clears waivers ?

What's the fate of Iafallo and his $4.M tag, Kupari, Barron, is Lambert pushing into the opening roster (hope so)
Is Comrie capable of being the backup or is his use as a goalie mentor on the Moose ? 

Chevy's usually pretty good at picking up contributors off of the waiver wire. Not sure we have space for it this year as a guy like Lambert could be sent down for the sole purpose that he doesn't have to go through waivers.

I guess the caveat there is that we're suddenly low on defensive bodies.

[Pigskin]

Is Chevy watching the Waiver wire for a hidden gem ?    Such as a puck moving D-man
 
Who is going to be traded or waived and then picked up before he clears waivers ?

What's the fate of Iafallo and his $4.M tag, Kupari, Barron, is Lambert pushing into the opening roster (hope so)
Is Comrie capable of being the backup or is his use as a goalie mentor on the Moose ? 

Comrie is a down grade from LB. Iafallo is a swiss army knife type of player, but at $4M??? Kupari, needs to turn the corner quickly. I like Barron on our 4th line. I think Lambert has played well and needs the be on the roster. 

Second line C is a big ? for me. VN7 is a 3rd or 4th line C at best.

D is also a big question mark.

[theaardvark]

1C - 55
3C - 17
1w - 81
2W - 27

1G - 37

Other than that, no idea

[Jockitch]

Very much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea 


 ....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force

[blue_gold_84]

Iafallo at $4M is pretty reasonable considering how much versatility he brings.

I'm surprised about Lambert. It sounded like he was ready to take the next step.

2C remains a pretty big question mark in the meantime, IMO.

[Pigskin]

I am looking at our C position and we are right back to where we were before we trade for Monahan.

[Jesse]

I am looking at our C position and we are right back to where we were before we trade for Monahan.

Keeping in mind how much success we had last year before the trade for Monahan.

[Jesse]

Very much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea 


 ....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force

Kupari is probably the 4th centre or the guy getting bumped off the roster for Lambert. Don't think we want to see him as 2C.

[Pigskin]

Very much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea 


 ....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force

Very much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea 


 ....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force

I think it will depend on who is better in the face offs. Last season before we brought in Monahan we were bottom of the league. But, I would like to see Lambert take that spot. He has excellent speed and vision.   

[Jesse]

I think it will depend on who is better in the face offs. Last season before we brought in Monahan we were bottom of the league. But, I would like to see Lambert take that spot. He has excellent speed and vision.   

I don't know if I would expect Lambert to be good at face-offs. Seems like one of those things that's going to keep him out of the Jets line up more than one that'll get him on the 2nd line.

[J5V]

I don't know if I would expect Lambert to be good at face-offs. Seems like one of those things that's going to keep him out of the Jets line up more than one that'll get him on the 2nd line.

Good point. The ability to win face-offs is such a critical skill.

[Pigskin]

This team will have to be better in the face off circle.

Manahan 54.7 on 547 FO.
AL17 49.0 on 1390
MS55 48.1 on 1253.
DG19 54.6 on 194
MB36 46.3 on 134
CP91 37.6 on 101
VN7  36.3 on 477
NN62 45.6 on 31.

PP 18.75  PK 77.13 Both have to be better.

Players we need to get more out of. CP91: 38 points in 71 games. GV13 36 points in 47, needs to stay healthy.     
NN62 34 points in 72 games, MA22 36 points in 82 games. 

[Pigskin]

Jets send Lambert and Chib, back to the Moose.

[blue_gold_84]

Shame about Lambert, but I'd rather he not get rushed. The Moose should be a solid team this season.

Not sure I'm feeling the same about the Jets, though.

[Jesse]

Shame about Lambert, but I'd rather he not get rushed. The Moose should be a solid team this season.

Not sure I'm feeling the same about the Jets, though.

We're essentially the exact same team as last year.

If they commit to the same defensive structure; we're a Wild Card team. If they're able to move their special teams out of the basement, there's potential to be even more.

I don't have any faith in our play-off results until I see otherwise, though.

[theaardvark]

Lambert on the ice getting top minutes with the moose is better than getting 4th line minutes or even press box with the big club.  He can work on becoming the #2C we need...

We need a faceoff coach, a specialist.  We need to be at least .500 in the circle.

[blue_gold_84]

We're essentially the exact same team as last year.

If they commit to the same defensive structure; we're a Wild Card team. If they're able to move their special teams out of the basement, there's potential to be even more.

I don't have any faith in our play-off results until I see otherwise, though.

As #37 goes, so will this team. Seems like that's been the case for too long now.

Count me among those who feel pretty meh about this upcoming season.

[Pigskin]

As #37 goes, so will this team. Seems like that's been the case for too long now.

Count me among those who feel pretty meh about this upcoming season.

I think we took a step back from last season. No 2nd. line C, no LB, didn't upgrade the D.

[blue_or_die]

I'm excited for tonight although I'm not expecting us to be world beaters this season. Hoping we are in the playoff conversation and it gives me reason to watch nightly. To be fair, I said this last year and we had an incredible regular season, so who knows.

All I can do right now is hope we hammer Edmonton at home tonight. Long shot that will happen, but wouldn't that be a way to generate excitement..

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/5-questions-winnipeg-jets-must-answer-as-new-season-arrives/

Here's hoping they find a way to formulate answers starting tonight.

[Pigskin]

I am hoping the Jets can stay out of the penalty box tonight. Not sure our PP has improved any this season. Helle will probably have to be in mid season form tonight to get the W.

[Pigskin]

Well, not a bad 1st. period. The Lowry line is playing well.
Apps. with 3 points.
PP 2/3
Kup first goal in 70 games.
6 zip, pretty solid game for the Jets.

[J5V]

A little bit of humble pie for the Oil courtesy the Jets. Congrats to Scott Arniel for his first win in his first regular season game as anointed coach of the Jets. Nice to get that out of the way immediately for him and the players.

[PloenFan]

Kyle Connor's seventh consecutive season-opening game with a goal, an NHL record.

[Jesse]

Helle takes hold of the Vezina conversation in Game one, lol.

[blue_gold_84]

Helle takes hold of the Vezina conversation in Game one, lol.

Put the league on notice!

What a game. Third line was unreal.

[blue_or_die]

All I can do right now is hope we hammer Edmonton at home tonight. Long shot that will happen, but wouldn't that be a way to generate excitement..

WRONG AGAIN

classic

[theaardvark]

So, we really missed out on upgrading our D, what a mess they were last night.

Why did the announcers keep saying "this was a 52 win team" and "this was a 110 point team" over and over?  We know, and we've been "contenders" and "first round exits" for a while.

We had 3 more wins, 6 more points, but the Oilers went to the 7th game of the SCF.

Yes, a statement start to the season.  97 more games like this and we hoist the cup.

[Pigskin]

So, we really missed out on upgrading our D, what a mess they were last night.

Why did the announcers keep saying "this was a 52 win team" and "this was a 110 point team" over and over?  We know, and we've been "contenders" and "first round exits" for a while.

We had 3 more wins, 6 more points, but the Oilers went to the 7th game of the SCF.

Yes, a statement start to the season.  97 more games like this and we hoist the cup.

It's game one. Both teams have a lot to work on. I had no problem with our D last night. D also blocked a lot of shots. Our 2nd. line took the night off. Need a 2nd.line C. 20 of 49 in the circle, we knew that was a problem coming in. However the PP moved the puck well, and shot the puck more often, not looking for the perfect play.

[Pigskin]

Jets place Kahkonen on waivers.

[theaardvark]

Jets place Kahkonen on waivers.

Knew it was him or Comrie... both need to clear to go down.  Can't carry 3 goalers.

Moose will be fine if we lose him, but better if we don't.  Good depth, just in case.

[Jesse]

Jets place Kahkonen on waivers.

All the talking heads were predicting it'd be Comrie. Interesting.

[Pigskin]

Kah: 139 games, 2A, 4 SO, 3.33 GAA, 49/67/15, .899. 28 years old.

Com:  57 games, 2A, 2 SO, 3.38 GAA, 24/26/2, 29 years old.

I was surprised to see Comrie has only played in 57 NHL games. 

[J5V]

Opening Night

[Pigskin]

CB98 in Winnipeg tonight. To bad I will be at the Bomber game.

[blue_gold_84]

G Kahkonen claimed off waivers by the Avs: https://illegalcurve.com/former-winnipeg-jets-goalie-kaapo-kahkonen-claimed-off-waivers-by-colorado-avalanche/

Could be a tough go for the Moose in net this season.

[Pigskin]

Well just finished watching the highlights of this game. 2-1 win in OT. Excellent push near the end of the game. MS55 with goals 299, and 300. 

[blue_gold_84]

Well, I'm glad one team managed the comeback win last night.

Hellebuyck is such a phenom. Scheifele having a strong start to this season.

[Pigskin]

What beautiful hip check NP4 caught CB98 with last night.

[J5V]

What beautiful hip check NP4 caught CB98 with last night.

When asked about it Pionk said if he misses the hip check he gets flagged so he can't miss. LOL!

[Pigskin]

5 pm start tonight. Should be a good game.

[J5V]

What an amazing goal by Scheif with 0.7 seconds left in the first period. Perfect shot! That faceoff win by Adam Lowry was incredible too!

Amazing Goal Off The Faceoff!

[J5V]

Another nice win by the Jets. 3-0 to start the season for the first time. Keep 'er going, boys!

Game Winner in OT!

[Pigskin]

Well, I am sure glad we didn't trade MS55 last summer. Lot's of empty seats. But, it was a bad time (5pm) for a game on Thanksgiving Sunday. Not a great 1st. period which was saved by a great faceoff win by AL17, and MS55 with a quick release. 1,3,and 4th lines all playing well.

OT, great pass by MS55 and an amazing shot by KC81.

[PloenFan]

The new assistant coaches, Dean Chynoweth and Davis Payne, have had success on other teams with the power play and penalty kill. Our PP is 3 for 7 or 42.86 and our PK is perfect through 3 games. Hope this trend continues !