We need a backup quarterback!

[55StickCar]

I would like to see Alexander and/or Adams.

[Jesse]

Ford will be a free agent.

I'm not sure if he'll want to stick around with Edmonton either.

I wonder if another team would give him a better chance next season.

[kronic]

A few thoughts...

Why would be possibly sign MBT or BLM for next year even if Zach is done? Zach is 36, MBT is 36 and BLM is 34. Other than we're hosting the Grey Cup, there is no future there. Ride with Zach next year and get our backup QB some reps FOR the future.

If Zach is out for any duration and/or garbage time for the rest of the season, I'd like to see what our current third stringer has. Mix Streveler in as he has been for short yardage and a couple specialty packages, but we cannot put the rest of the season in his hands.

Does nobody remember 2019? I never see anyone mention that the very reason we went out and got Zach in the first place was because Streveler had the starting job and was CLEARLY not the answer after Nichols went down. He's a "specialist" at best and yes, a folk hero in Winnipeg who genuinely DID help the Bombers win the cup in 2019, but he will NEVER be a full time starter. He simply can't pass.

His stats in 2019? 3-5 as a starter, 156/234 for 1564 yards, 8td 14int, for a QB rating of 72.0. Zach's numbers are slightly better than that this year and people are saying he's done. If he is, we don't want to ride with someone with similar numbers do we?

[TecnoGenius]

The enigma. Player that could be available is Arbuckle.  He at one point was going to be the heir apparent in Calgary. What happened to him?.

He got Jenning's and Franklin'd.  Promising backups on great teams who leave to go suck everywhere else.

As for our options... we'll never be able to get a proven contender as our #2 in FA as long as we have a $600k #1.  No team can.  The only option for a team holding arguably the best QB (MOP for many years) is to hope they strike gold with their IMP ELC.  It's not just Bombers.

We struck gold with Dru.  MTL did with Alexander.  All the others, not so much.

That's why Strev is such a great puzzle piece this year... a Strev bird in the hand is worth 2 Wilsons in the bush.  Wilson may be the next Fine, or the next Dru, no one can know... yet.

[dd]

He got Jenning's and Franklin'd.  Promising backups on great teams who leave to go suck everywhere else.

As for our options... we'll never be able to get a proven contender as our #2 in FA as long as we have a $600k #1.  No team can.  The only option for a team holding arguably the best QB (MOP for many years) is to hope they strike gold with their IMP ELC.  It's not just Bombers.

We struck gold with Dru.  MTL did with Alexander.  All the others, not so much.

That's why Strev is such a great puzzle piece this year... a Strev bird in the hand is worth 2 Wilsons in the bush.  Wilson may be the next Fine, or the next Dru, no one can know... yet.

BC seems to make it work

[TecnoGenius]

"Any player that hits a quarterback low or in the head after the
play should receive a rough play disqualification," added Miller.
"The Saskatchewan player now has two such hits this year alone on
quarterbacks."

I would go farther.  It should also hurt the team in-game in a way besides just losing the roster spot -- or they could send a STer NAT "goon" to take out QBs without caring about losing him.  I would add a new 35Y penalty that would not be subject to the halfway-to-goal modification.  So if they are at the 30YL, the penalty puts them at the 1.

Or start applying "points" to these hits to decide the penalty yardage:
Late? +15Y
H2H? +25Y
Anything else to head? +15Y
Body-flop? +15Y
any of the above extra egregious? +10Y

So you could easily have a 50Y penalty, with no "halfway" modification allowed.

Plus an ejection.

Plus some later-in-game penalty (yes, really) if the QB is taken out for the rest of the game.  And how about the

And any situation where the RTP would result in 0 yard penalty gets applied to the next play (like kickoff).

How about if the QB misses X games that same player is suspended the same X games.

The pain would be so bad for a team and game that Ds would start wising up.  There should also be consideration for garbage time so that goons don't take out QBs when the game is hopeless not caring about penalties or ejections.  Something that applies to the next game.

There is so much the league could do to really make a dent.

[BlueInCgy]

He got Jenning's and Franklin'd.  Promising backups on great teams who leave to go suck everywhere else.

As for our options... we'll never be able to get a proven contender as our #2 in FA as long as we have a $600k #1.  No team can.  The only option for a team holding arguably the best QB (MOP for many years) is to hope they strike gold with their IMP ELC.  It's not just Bombers.

We struck gold with Dru.  MTL did with Alexander.  All the others, not so much.

That's why Strev is such a great puzzle piece this year... a Strev bird in the hand is worth 2 Wilsons in the bush.  Wilson may be the next Fine, or the next Dru, no one can know... yet.

That's a fair bit of a stretch.  Streveler s value to the team may increase over the cold months when teams need to run the ball, but he isn't worth 2 of anything right now.  Hamilton gets as good (or better) short yardage production out of Litre.  Stevens is head and shoulders above Strev.  If Zach goes down for any amount of time, we will have to acquire someone else, and the trade deadline isn't far away.

I will never discount Strevs contributions in 2019, but either he's no longer that guy or everyone else has figured him out.

[Blue In BC]

These are the back ups for the rest of the CFL. Some are very expensive and may be 1a or 1b. Many are on the downside of their careers, some are on the upside. Exclude SMS in the equation.

Vancouver: VAJ
Edmonton: Ford or MBT
Calgary: Shiltz
Regina: Patterson
Hamilton: Powell or BLM depending on who the coaches wanted to go forward with before the injury to Powell
Ottawa: Masoli
Montreal: Evans and Alexander
Toronto: Arbuckle and Dukes

Go ahead and name a couple that wouldn't be more productive or have more upside to pass than Steveler if they had to start the next game?

Feel free to rank these QB's including Streveler and see where they land. Several on this list may be out of the CFL in 2025. That's not the question.

[dd]

All but Evans are better than strev as a #2 Qb option

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

These are the back ups for the rest of the CFL. Some are very expensive and may be 1a or 1b. Many are on the downside of their careers, some are on the upside. Exclude SMS in the equation.

Vancouver: VAJ
Edmonton: Ford or MBT
Calgary: Shiltz
Regina: Patterson
Hamilton: Powell or BLM depending on who the coaches wanted to go forward with before the injury to Powell
Ottawa: Masoli
Montreal: Evans and Alexander
Toronto: Arbuckle and Dukes

Go ahead and name a couple that wouldn't be more productive or have more upside to pass than Steveler if they had to start the next game?

Feel free to rank these QB's including Streveler and see where they land. Several on this list may be out of the CFL in 2025. That's not the question.

You missed Crum.  If Strev. could match Crum in combined passing and running ability, I'd be content with him as #2 till someone better came along.

[J5V]

What I'm hearing is "where is our next Zach Collaros"? It may very well be Terry Wilson when he's ready.

[bunker]

These are the back ups for the rest of the CFL. Some are very expensive and may be 1a or 1b. Many are on the downside of their careers, some are on the upside. Exclude SMS in the equation.

Vancouver: VAJ
Edmonton: Ford or MBT
Calgary: Shiltz
Regina: Patterson
Hamilton: Powell or BLM depending on who the coaches wanted to go forward with before the injury to Powell
Ottawa: Masoli
Montreal: Evans and Alexander
Toronto: Arbuckle and Dukes

Go ahead and name a couple that wouldn't be more productive or have more upside to pass than Steveler if they had to start the next game?

Feel free to rank these QB's including Streveler and see where they land. Several on this list may be out of the CFL in 2025. That's not the question.

Alright, I'll bite.

I would rank VAJ number one, with MBT and Ford at number 2. All would be upgrades on Strev. Due to salary, none are realistic options for 2025.

I would not be interested  in Evans, Patterson, Arbuckle or Dukes.

BLM? Hard to say, would be very interested if we got the BLM of today, but I don't think that's what you'll get. He's also playing behind a pretty good o-line, better than he would have here. So pass.

Shiltz might be a small upgrade on Strev as a number 2.

Masoli is too old and brittle. Might be a last ditch option if Collaros went down with only a few games left in the season, the way we replaced Nichols with Collaros. Same with BLM.

Both Powell and Alexander show promise. I actually think Alexander looked like he had a higher ceiling, but sample size is far too small. Powell is probably more game ready than Alexander, but I think Hamilton will try to hold on to him.

So really  no great options. It's also academic, because barring injury, in 2025 O'Shea is going to go with the 2 guys he sees as his warriors, Zach and Strev.

[dd]

Alright, I'll bite.

I would rank VAJ number one, with MBT and Ford at number 2. All would be upgrades on Strev. Due to salary, none are realistic options for 2025.

I would not be interested  in Evans, Patterson, Arbuckle or Dukes.

BLM? Hard to say, would be very interested if we got the BLM of today, but I don't think that's what you'll get. He's also playing behind a pretty good o-line, better than he would have here. So pass.

Shiltz might be a small upgrade on Strev as a number 2.

Masoli is too old and brittle. Might be a last ditch option if Collaros went down with only a few games left in the season, the way we replaced Nichols with Collaros. Same with BLM.

Both Powell and Alexander show promise. I actually think Alexander looked like he had a higher ceiling, but sample size is far too small. Powell is probably more game ready than Alexander, but I think Hamilton will try to hold on to him.

So really  no great options. It's also academic, because barring injury, in 2025 O'Shea is going to go with the 2 guys he sees as his warriors, Zach and Strev.

Well said and summarized, couldn't agree more

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

What I'm hearing is "where is our next Zach Collaros"? It may very well be Terry Wilson when he's ready.

Wilson won't be given the chance to get ready in the current configuration, even if Zach got knocked out for a couple of games, he'd spend them on the sidelines watching Strev. handle all duties.

[theaardvark]

As long as we have Collaros n the roster, he's the number one.  He is under contract for next year, and if he want to play in 26, they will sign him again.

As long as he's the number one, we do not have the $SMS to pay a #2 to come here.  No Alexander, Paterson, VA, or Ford comes here for what we can afford to pay on top of Collaros and Streveler, AND to sit waiting for someone to knock Collaros out of the lineup.

If Collaros announces 25 is his last year,  and Miller says blow the budget, then we can sign one of those guys to back up in 25, and start in 26.  THAT is the only way we land an up and coming FA QB.  Otherwise they stay where they are.