We need a backup quarterback!

Started by Austin85, September 02, 2024, 04:14:41 AM

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Quote from: Blueforlife on September 02, 2024, 07:29:45 PMI am not concerned about Strev as our backup.  I am entitled to that opinion.  Doesn't mean  I am right or the herd is either.  Just fans talking ball.  A change at backup QB is not realistic imo.
Strev will play well as the season ends and the weather turns.  He is an asset.  So easy to pile on after a unproductive half against a very good defense.
It's not piling on. It's a fact we were not productive in the second half of that game. You are correct that a change at back up QB is likely not possible. Not many would argue that.  But it was clear we had considerable difficulty moving the ball in the second half and we need to do a heck of a lot better if Zack is out for a period of time.  Teams need a passing and running game regardless of the weather, if they want to considered as a Grey Cup contender.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

Blueforlife

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Quote from: ModAdmin on September 02, 2024, 07:37:07 PMIt's not piling on. It's a fact we were not productive in the second half of that game. You are correct that a change at back up QB is likely not possible. Not many would argue that.  But it was clear we had considerable difficulty moving the ball in the second half and we need to do a heck of a lot better if Zack is out for a period of time.  Teams need a passing and running game regardless of the weather, if they want to considered as a Grey Cup contender.
People been complaining and piling on about Strev all year.  To be honest I see no value in continuing this convo.  We don't see eye to eye on this.  Your said your piece and I said mine.

Zach for the time being isn't out long term.  I believe in Strev, you don't. 

Time will tell and I think Strev has a happy ending for us.

The title of the thread states we need a backup QB, I strongly disagree.  Let's judge Strev at the end of the season, not after a half.

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Blueforlife on September 02, 2024, 07:11:56 PMWe have the best QB in the league and for this year our backups are fine.  Yes fans want more.  I am happy with what we got.  I have never been concerned with what the herd wants.

To come out and expect to find a backup QB at this point in the season isn't realistic, unless we have a serious injury situation.

This is a classic Austin thread.  Seen this story before, got the t-shirt.  Everybody is entitled to an opinion on this but now you know mine.

You've never been concerned about reality. Collaros has been knocked out two games this year. Streveler only was able to manage 46 yards passing in an entire half. His mechanics are horrible.  Wilson is a rookie.

Getting another veteran QB at this point of the season is not likely. That doesn't mean we are secure with our back ups at QB.  Blind faith is is more than an opinion when the facts are in your face.
Take no prisoners


Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on September 02, 2024, 08:11:26 PMYou've never been concerned about reality. Collaros has been knocked out two games this year. Streveler only was able to manage 46 yards passing in an entire half. His mechanics are horrible.  Wilson is a rookie.

Getting another veteran QB at this point of the season is not likely. That doesn't mean we are secure with our back ups at QB.  Blind faith is is more than an opinion when the facts are in your face.
Please stop taking personal attacks at me.  It's getting old.  If you can't do that, stop replying to my posts.  You generalize comments about me that are not true.  Please stop that.  Please stay on topic, it's a backup QB thread, not a PJ thread.

I call it like I see it.  The title of the thread states we need a backup QB, I strongly disagree at this moment. 

Let's see how the season ends, look at the play off all our QBs and take it from there.  Nothing is changing this year.




Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 02, 2024, 08:25:31 PMPlease stop taking personal attacks at me.  It's getting old.  If you can't do that, stop replying to my posts.  You generalize comments about me that are not true.  Please stop that.

I call it like I see it.  The title of the thread states we need a backup QB, I strongly disagree at this moment. 

Let's see how the season ends, look at the play off all our QBs and take it from there.  Nothing is changing this year.



It's not a personal attack. It's a discussion of real information which you can't seem to deal with at any time.

It's drinking the blue coolaid with blue coloured sunglasses.

I don't see many posters agreeing with you on Streveler or many of your other " opinions ".
Take no prisoners

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on September 02, 2024, 08:29:25 PMIt's not a personal attack. It's a discussion of real information which you can't seem to deal with at any time.

It's drinking the blue coolaid with blue coloured sunglasses.

I don't see many posters agreeing with you on Streveler or many of your other " opinions ".
Doubling down on personal attacks and untrue generalizations after being told to stop.  Stop replying to my posts please.  Thanks.  Please stay on topic.  People agree with me all the time on here and lots don't as expected.  I get a lot of likes on my posts.  Yes likely more against Strev than for.  Anti Strev herd isn't right just because it's bigger.  Your posts about me are not accurate, don't add to the convo, are unneeded and nobody cares / wants to see that.

Bomber Diehard

I just looked in the crystal ball and it said the bombers next year will have these two quarterbacks.
        1 Adams
        2 Dustin Crum

BlueInCgy

Quote from: Bomber Diehard on September 02, 2024, 09:04:43 PMI just looked in the crystal ball and it said the bombers next year will have these two quarterbacks.
        1 Adams
        2 Dustin Crum

Except the BB are on the hook for a quarter mill minimum in guaranteed to ZC because of the last contract he signed.

Blue In BC

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Streveler was only allowed to make 6 pass attempts in the entire 2nd half of the game. Completed 4 of them for 46 yards. That's less than adequate by any ones standards.

At no point in any short yardage in 2024 situation has Pierce / O'Shea allowed him to throw a pass instead of a QB run.

That's a strong indication the Bombers are not confidant in him throwing. He's also been less effective as a short yardage QB which has resulted in turnover on downs multiple times.

His season average completion yardage is 5.2.

I don't think it's in O'Shea's make up to make a change but Dolegala is still out there as a free agent. I might add him to the PR and see if he can bump Wilson out of #3 spot for the balance of the year.

Wilson might become a good QB but we may never see what he can do this season.



Take no prisoners

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Blueforlife on September 02, 2024, 08:31:39 PMDoubling down on personal attacks and untrue generalizations after being told to stop.  Stop replying to my posts please.  Thanks.  Please stay on topic.  People agree with me all the time on here and lots don't as expected.  I get a lot of likes on my posts.  Yes likely more against Strev than for.  Anti Strev herd isn't right just because it's bigger.  Your posts about me are not accurate, don't add to the convo, are unneeded and nobody cares / wants to see that.

Nothing requires you to reply to my posts. Blue coolaid doesn't add anything to the conversation either.

The topic is that Streveler is not a good back up and the stats prove that argument. You'd take less heat if you supported your " opinion " with facts and stats rather than an emotional response.

Football is a game of stats and results. Neither of those support your " opinion ".
Take no prisoners

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on September 02, 2024, 09:38:08 PMNothing requires you to reply to my posts. Blue coolaid doesn't add anything to the conversation either.

The topic is that Streveler is not a good back up and the stats prove that argument. You'd take less heat if you supported your " opinion " with facts and stats rather than an emotional response.

Football is a game of stats and results. Neither of those support your " opinion ".
Stop with your generizations please.  Stop replying to my posts please.  You have proven an inability to keep the discussion respectful with me today.  Not worried about the heat.  Worried about keeping discussions respectful and on topic.  I am entitled to my opinion, let's move on.  You appear more interested in personlly attacking me than discussing football which is unfortunate as I enjoy the info you provide here.

J5V

Collaros and Streveler have both struggled at times this season for the same reasons. I'm not hanging any blame on either one of them. I'm sure they both wish they'd have played better but that goes for the whole team. As a team they are improving and have managed their way into first place, something many fans here would have thought an impossibility just a few games ago. I like being in first place and I like the job that the people in charge of personnel on this team have done. It's all a process. So far so good.
Go Bombers!

Blueforlife

Quote from: J5V on September 02, 2024, 09:54:38 PMCollaros and Streveler have both struggled at times this season for the same reasons. I'm not hanging any blame on either one of them. I'm sure they both wish they'd have played better but that goes for the whole team. As a team they are improving and have managed their way into first place, something many fans here would have thought an impossibility just a few games ago. I like being in first place and I like the job that the people in charge of personnel on this team have done. It's all a process. So far so good.
I agree with all.  Trust the process and the organization.  They got this and the personal we have is pretty solid in almost all areas.  I only see us improving and our QBs are trending in the right direction but will have bumps in the road.  I believe the best learn from the bumps.

J5V

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 02, 2024, 09:59:16 PMI agree with all.  Trust the process and the organization.  They got this and the personal we have is pretty solid in almost all areas.  I only see us improving and our QBs are trending in the right direction but will have bumps in the road.  I believe the best learn from the bumps.
True. No team is without their needed areas of improvement. Even Montreal with their 10-1 record is far from perfect. Everyone thought Toronto was going to be unbeatable last year and look what happened. Anything is possible.
Go Bombers!