We need a backup quarterback!

Started by Austin85, September 02, 2024, 04:14:41 AM

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theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 07:09:01 PMLeft over pinnacle club buffet I heard lol

There is no buffet at the Pinnacle Club.  I wish...
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Blueforlife

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2024, 07:10:00 PMThere is no buffet at the Pinnacle Club.  I wish...
Well that dates me.  A few years ago they had it after the game for people in those seats.  When did they stop?

BlueInCgy

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 05:16:21 PMI believe Zach has a little more longevity than you suggest.  Work on succession planing, yes. Write him off early, nope.

He's going to be 37 halfway through next season.  He's signed through the end of next season.  Bombers are going to have to figure out his best before date, and it's not far past 2025.  He's got nothing left to prove, we've already passed on a 2024 MOP nominee instead of him.  Sure, he might have something left in the tank.  But riding him til the wheels fall off is not a good strategy.

Don't get me wrong, I love Zach, but good management will move on before they're forced to move on.

blue_or_die

The plan is obviously to ride this vet core thru next year with the home Grey Cup. Then it will be dismantled.
#Ride?

Blueforlife

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Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 12, 2024, 08:45:39 PMHe's going to be 37 halfway through next season.  He's signed through the end of next season.  Bombers are going to have to figure out his best before date, and it's not far past 2025.  He's got nothing left to prove, we've already passed on a 2024 MOP nominee instead of him.  Sure, he might have something left in the tank.  But riding him til the wheels fall off is not a good strategy.

Don't get me wrong, I love Zach, but good management will move on before they're forced to move on.
Agree to disagree.  I see us keeping him on to mentor the next gen and ensure a transition for the future.  Injuries could derail that plan.  A good debate but I'm going long on Zach.  Maybe he transitions to our coaching staff.  You originally said a season at best, which I disagree on.

theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 07:41:04 PMWell that dates me.  A few years ago they had it after the game for people in those seats.  When did they stop?

They give out little appy plates now, guessing that stopped due to COVID, and they never went back...
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theaardvark

Quote from: blue_or_die on September 12, 2024, 09:24:44 PMThe plan is obviously to ride this vet core thru next year with the home Grey Cup. Then it will be dismantled.

There will be players they move on from after teh GC host year that maybe should be moved on from this year, but I hardly think the word "dismantled" comes into play...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Blueforlife

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2024, 10:51:49 PMThey give out little appy plates now, guessing that stopped due to COVID, and they never went back...
That's too bad, that buff was pretty sick but I'm sure many enjoyed it

theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 11:09:54 PMThat's too bad, that buff was pretty sick but I'm sure many enjoyed it

With COVID, everybody would get sick, not just the buffet... ;)
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

blue_or_die

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2024, 10:53:31 PMThere will be players they move on from after teh GC host year that maybe should be moved on from this year, but I hardly think the word "dismantled" comes into play...

Zach, Bryant, Paddy, Fatboi, Willie, Biggie, BA...

And that's just the old guys. There will be the younger stars who will be able to demand high salaries that we will have to balance.
#Ride?

Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2024, 10:53:31 PMThere will be players they move on from after teh GC host year that maybe should be moved on from this year, but I hardly think the word "dismantled" comes into play...

It wasn't a shot. He's speaking in respect to the core players that have been around since the beginning of the rebuild. 
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 12, 2024, 01:12:47 PMYour statements are ludicrous.  First off, Dolegala won't be getting a bonus because he's currently unsigned.

Maybe, maybe not.  He could realize he is literally the only legit couch-sitter right now and that he has WFC by the danglies.  I could see him asking for a reasonable signing bonus.  He is American, so there's always that "muh lower taxes" thing.  If we don't get Jake, then our only other option is to make complicated and expensive trades... and we may not be willing to do that while Zach is still upright.

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 12, 2024, 01:12:47 PMSecondly, he's not a Rider, but if you're going to hyper generalize any player because at one point in his career he suited up for Saskatchewan

Ya, because when everyone thinks "Dolegala", they think "Lion".  Not.  He started much of the season for SSK last year, and some in '22.  I think he started 2 in BC?  Whatever you want to say about it, Dolegala is best known as a Rider.

Like I said before, be prudent.  Isn't that wise?  The longer a player was with SSK, and the closer they are to retirement, the greater the chance they "pull a Durant".  The vets there all watched it happen, were in that city and having laughing fits about it in the locker room.  Ya, so the odds of another player being that big a douche is maybe 5%, but it certainly isn't 0.  Unless you think Durant is literally the biggest douche in the history of CFL, past, present and future.  (And yes, I know Dolegala has only been in the CFL for 3 seasons, so the risk with him is lower.)

I don't want to see WFC get SMS-reamed by unscrupulous players again, Green fans would have just too much fun with that.  Wise people learn from past mistakes.
Never go full Rider!

BlueInCgy

You need healing.  Did you get food poisoning from a box of Fantuz flakes? 

Dolegala is 27.  A long way from retirement.  Weak argument

Demski, Neufeld and Willie were all known as Riders before they were known as Bombers.  Your argument is more baseless the more you double(s)down on it.  Weak argument

There's nothing to be prudent about, because as it has been pointed out to you by a number of people, he wouldn't be offered a bonus because he's warming the couch.  But again, don't let facts or logic get in the way of your misguided narrative.  Keep holding onto that kernel of where Doubles hurt you and apply that to everyone else who was ever a Rider.  Don't walk around too fast with those blinders on because you're going to hit the wall.

It doesn't matter what I think of Durant, because I'm not the one making the argument that players (yes, plural, because that's the stretch your making) who once played for Saskatchewan, regardless of duration, then moved to other teams who were not the Riders, all have secret nefarious master plans to somehow get the Bombers to sign them from that non Rider team, so that they then can screw over the Bombers because that's actually the strategy of anyone who plays for the Riders, even though it's only happened once, but in your delusion it's a constant threat.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2024, 05:33:10 AMMaybe, maybe not.  He could realize he is literally the only legit couch-sitter right now and that he has WFC by the danglies.  I could see him asking for a reasonable signing bonus.  He is American, so there's always that "muh lower taxes" thing.  If we don't get Jake, then our only other option is to make complicated and expensive trades... and we may not be willing to do that while Zach is still upright.

Ya, because when everyone thinks "Dolegala", they think "Lion".  Not.  He started much of the season for SSK last year, and some in '22.  I think he started 2 in BC?  Whatever you want to say about it, Dolegala is best known as a Rider.

Like I said before, be prudent.  Isn't that wise?  The longer a player was with SSK, and the closer they are to retirement, the greater the chance they "pull a Durant".  The vets there all watched it happen, were in that city and having laughing fits about it in the locker room.  Ya, so the odds of another player being that big a douche is maybe 5%, but it certainly isn't 0.  Unless you think Durant is literally the biggest douche in the history of CFL, past, present and future.  (And yes, I know Dolegala has only been in the CFL for 3 seasons, so the risk with him is lower.)

I don't want to see WFC get SMS-reamed by unscrupulous players again, Green fans would have just too much fun with that.  Wise people learn from past mistakes.

This is straight up unhinged.

#forthew
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What a craptacular timeline.
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I'm sure glad we didn't decide to treat Willie Jefferson that way when we signed him... from... the... gasp... Riders.