We need a backup quarterback!

Started by Austin85, September 02, 2024, 04:14:41 AM

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J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 12, 2024, 10:52:53 AMAll I'm saying is don't give them signing bonuses, nothing else.  We can do everything you say, just don't stick our nose out for $70k to get it cut off.  Is that not prudent?

Agree completely. Walters/Miller are nobody's fools. I'm sure they see things exactly as you've described. The Riders are truly the craphole of the league.
Go Bombers!

Jesse

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 12, 2024, 10:52:53 AMAll I'm saying is don't give them signing bonuses, nothing else.  We can do everything you say, just don't stick our nose out for $70k to get it cut off.  Is that not prudent?


It's just a weird thing to bring up.

We are obviously not offering guys sitting on the couch in Week 15 a signing bonus.

If we are signing a good veteran in the off season, we are likely giving a signing bonus.

The Durant mishap has no bearing. We've given out many signing bonuses since then. Not sure why it was suddenly mentioned.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 12, 2024, 01:12:47 PMI have.  Rock In Power Jack Russell.


Your statements are ludicrous.  First off, Dolegala won't be getting a bonus because he's currently unsigned.  Secondly, he's not a Rider, but if you're going to hyper generalize any player because at one point in his career he suited up for Saskatchewan, well, you need the kind of assistance that isn't available here.  Can't wait for Milligan to hit free agency and you to pull out the soap box and go "He's no goode, he's a Rider."  Respect the ability and take the blinders off, it's not a good look.  Thirdly, it happened once.  The Bombers have paid hundreds of thousands if not millions in bonuses since with no issue.  If we follow your "logic" because of an isolated incident, we can't function in FA.  Hell, Zach has a guaranteed quarter mill next year which he definitely is not living up to this season, and he's an ex Rider.  And finally, the only thing Riderfans is good for is watching them eat their own during their annual Labour Day losing streak.  Cornish used to troll them hard, and they all would have cut off their arms to get him on the team. 

If you think Jake Dolegala, a young QB with a lot of runway left and a need to prove himself, is going to pander to fan base which did not treat him well for 10 grand and nuke the likelihood of anyone else ever signing him, well, maybe you need to hang out at RF a lot more.  Seems to be something A51 would have opined on in their prime.

Do I think Dolegala is great?  No, I don't even know if he's good.  But Streveler is likely done til 2026 if not for good, and Zach only has a season left in him at best so we need to get some options in play immediately.
I believe Zach has a little more longevity than you suggest.  Work on succession planing, yes. Write him off early, nope.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on September 12, 2024, 05:10:16 PMIt's just a weird thing to bring up.

We are obviously not offering guys sitting on the couch in Week 15 a signing bonus.

If we are signing a good veteran in the off season, we are likely giving a signing bonus.

The Durant mishap has no bearing. We've given out many signing bonuses since then. Not sure why it was suddenly mentioned.

Walters probably advanced them bus fare to get to Wpg. and a couple of MacDonald's coupons to tide them over.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 12, 2024, 05:52:23 PMWalters probably advanced them bus fare to get to Wpg. and a couple of MacDonald's coupons to tide them over.
Left over pinnacle club buffet I heard lol

theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 07:09:01 PMLeft over pinnacle club buffet I heard lol

There is no buffet at the Pinnacle Club.  I wish...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Blueforlife

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2024, 07:10:00 PMThere is no buffet at the Pinnacle Club.  I wish...
Well that dates me.  A few years ago they had it after the game for people in those seats.  When did they stop?

BlueInCgy

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 05:16:21 PMI believe Zach has a little more longevity than you suggest.  Work on succession planing, yes. Write him off early, nope.

He's going to be 37 halfway through next season.  He's signed through the end of next season.  Bombers are going to have to figure out his best before date, and it's not far past 2025.  He's got nothing left to prove, we've already passed on a 2024 MOP nominee instead of him.  Sure, he might have something left in the tank.  But riding him til the wheels fall off is not a good strategy.

Don't get me wrong, I love Zach, but good management will move on before they're forced to move on.

blue_or_die

The plan is obviously to ride this vet core thru next year with the home Grey Cup. Then it will be dismantled.
#Ride?

Blueforlife

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Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 12, 2024, 08:45:39 PMHe's going to be 37 halfway through next season.  He's signed through the end of next season.  Bombers are going to have to figure out his best before date, and it's not far past 2025.  He's got nothing left to prove, we've already passed on a 2024 MOP nominee instead of him.  Sure, he might have something left in the tank.  But riding him til the wheels fall off is not a good strategy.

Don't get me wrong, I love Zach, but good management will move on before they're forced to move on.
Agree to disagree.  I see us keeping him on to mentor the next gen and ensure a transition for the future.  Injuries could derail that plan.  A good debate but I'm going long on Zach.  Maybe he transitions to our coaching staff.  You originally said a season at best, which I disagree on.

theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 07:41:04 PMWell that dates me.  A few years ago they had it after the game for people in those seats.  When did they stop?

They give out little appy plates now, guessing that stopped due to COVID, and they never went back...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

theaardvark

Quote from: blue_or_die on September 12, 2024, 09:24:44 PMThe plan is obviously to ride this vet core thru next year with the home Grey Cup. Then it will be dismantled.

There will be players they move on from after teh GC host year that maybe should be moved on from this year, but I hardly think the word "dismantled" comes into play...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Blueforlife

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2024, 10:51:49 PMThey give out little appy plates now, guessing that stopped due to COVID, and they never went back...
That's too bad, that buff was pretty sick but I'm sure many enjoyed it

theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 12, 2024, 11:09:54 PMThat's too bad, that buff was pretty sick but I'm sure many enjoyed it

With COVID, everybody would get sick, not just the buffet... ;)
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

blue_or_die

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2024, 10:53:31 PMThere will be players they move on from after teh GC host year that maybe should be moved on from this year, but I hardly think the word "dismantled" comes into play...

Zach, Bryant, Paddy, Fatboi, Willie, Biggie, BA...

And that's just the old guys. There will be the younger stars who will be able to demand high salaries that we will have to balance.
#Ride?