We need a backup quarterback!

[Jesse]

Yes they will, if:

1) They are almost certainly out of the playoffs (so HAM, maybe CGY), and as each loss piles up for bad teams, this becomes more realistic.

2) They have given up on a guy and just want him gone (possibly Maier).

3) They have a young guy looking so good they don't need the ageing vet anymore (possibly Masoli, and whoever MTL's #3/#4 are).

Then we're back to trading something of value for someone we a) may never need and b) may only be slightly better than what we have, if better at all.

It might not be for the betterment of the team.

[TBURGESS]

Yes they will, if:

1) They are almost certainly out of the playoffs (so HAM, maybe CGY), and as each loss piles up for bad teams, this becomes more realistic.

2) They have given up on a guy and just want him gone (possibly Maier).

3) They have a young guy looking so good they don't need the ageing vet anymore (possibly Masoli, and whoever MTL's #3/#4 are).

1. Why would being out of the playoffs make any difference?
2. Maier will be starting this week.
3. I'll believe that when I see it. 

[BlueInCgy]

AND DON'T GIVE HIM A SIGNING BONUS!!  HE'S A RIDER!!

As was Demski

And Willy

And Neufeld

And Zach


If players could only be evaluated on their ability instead of something one guy did a half a decade ago (and he was an Alouette when he did it and Dolegala was a Lion last, but far be it from facts contributing to a narrative), imagine the quality of discussion we could have.

[TecnoGenius]

1. Why would being out of the playoffs make any difference?
2. Maier will be starting this week.
3. I'll believe that when I see it.

We all know that teams are much more amicable to trades once they are eliminated or near-eliminated.  Why?  Because after that they can forget about this season and worry about next year, which means they can trade quality backup pieces (like QBs) and other players that are not part of the future plan.

For instance, carrying a high-value #2 QB is useful when you're in GC contention, but useless or detrimental when you're eliminated and that guy is someone who isn't your future #1 and is likely to be too costly retain in FA anyhow.  Or that #2 may be up for a new contract in FA and you know you can't afford him.

For example, if BC was eliminated tomorrow, they'd be happy to trade VAJ away for massive DPs and players they need (assuming VAJ is not the #1 in BC next year).  Probably the same for Masoli, and one of Powell/BLM.

[TecnoGenius]

If players could only be evaluated on their ability instead of something one guy did a half a decade ago (and he was an Alouette when he did it and Dolegala was a Lion last, but far be it from facts contributing to a narrative), imagine the quality of discussion we could have.

You ever heard of "once bitten, twice shy"?

Durant is a SSK hero and legend not just for winning them a cup, but also for screwing over WPG via a $70k SMS hit.  They bring it up regularly on Riderfans.  They just love him for sticking it to us, and would (and do) encourage every single player to rip us off the same way before they retire.

Ya, I wouldn't put it past an ex-Rider to do this to us again in the future.  What will you say if that happens again?  Oh well, dems da breakz?

All I'm saying is don't give them signing bonuses, nothing else.  We can do everything you say, just don't stick our nose out for $70k to get it cut off.  Is that not prudent?

[Blueforlife]

You ever heard of "once bitten, twice shy"?

Durant is a SSK hero and legend not just for winning them a cup, but also for screwing over WPG via a $70k SMS hit.  They bring it up regularly on Riderfans.  They just love him for sticking it to us, and would (and do) encourage every single player to rip us off the same way before they retire.

Ya, I wouldn't put it past an ex-Rider to do this to us again in the future.  What will you say if that happens again?  Oh well, dems da breakz?

All I'm saying is don't give them signing bonuses, nothing else.  We can do everything you say, just don't stick our nose out for $70k to get it cut off.  Is that not prudent?

None issue handled internally

[BlueInCgy]

You ever heard of "once bitten, twice shy"?

Durant is a SSK hero and legend not just for winning them a cup, but also for screwing over WPG via a $70k SMS hit.  They bring it up regularly on Riderfans.  They just love him for sticking it to us, and would (and do) encourage every single player to rip us off the same way before they retire.

Ya, I wouldn't put it past an ex-Rider to do this to us again in the future.  What will you say if that happens again?  Oh well, dems da breakz?

All I'm saying is don't give them signing bonuses, nothing else.  We can do everything you say, just don't stick our nose out for $70k to get it cut off.  Is that not prudent?

I have.  Rock In Power Jack Russell.


Your statements are ludicrous.  First off, Dolegala won't be getting a bonus because he's currently unsigned.  Secondly, he's not a Rider, but if you're going to hyper generalize any player because at one point in his career he suited up for Saskatchewan, well, you need the kind of assistance that isn't available here.  Can't wait for Milligan to hit free agency and you to pull out the soap box and go "He's no goode, he's a Rider."  Respect the ability and take the blinders off, it's not a good look.  Thirdly, it happened once.  The Bombers have paid hundreds of thousands if not millions in bonuses since with no issue.  If we follow your "logic" because of an isolated incident, we can't function in FA.  Hell, Zach has a guaranteed quarter mill next year which he definitely is not living up to this season, and he's an ex Rider.  And finally, the only thing Riderfans is good for is watching them eat their own during their annual Labour Day losing streak.  Cornish used to troll them hard, and they all would have cut off their arms to get him on the team. 

If you think Jake Dolegala, a young QB with a lot of runway left and a need to prove himself, is going to pander to fan base which did not treat him well for 10 grand and nuke the likelihood of anyone else ever signing him, well, maybe you need to hang out at RF a lot more.  Seems to be something A51 would have opined on in their prime.

Do I think Dolegala is great?  No, I don't even know if he's good.  But Streveler is likely done til 2026 if not for good, and Zach only has a season left in him at best so we need to get some options in play immediately.

[blue_gold_84]

This thread sure went sideways. Jee-zus.

Maybe get off Riderfans. That forum is a cesspit of braindead losers - no wonder they all love Durant.

[Pete]

Get off the riders? Whats the fun on that?
Its so much fun listening to all their ludicrous conspiracy theories and delusions even When the facts stare them in the face. Whenever they lose its the cfl is out to get them its not;
Our team had a punt blocked and a ball intercepted in first 5 minutes
Or our kicker missed 3 fgs, or the coach doesn't know how to run out the clock.
 Heck their defence is its payback for some hit 4 years ago!

[LXTSN]

As was Demski

And Willy

And Neufeld

And Zach


If players could only be evaluated on their ability instead of something one guy did a half a decade ago (and he was an Alouette when he did it and Dolegala was a Lion last, but far be it from facts contributing to a narrative), imagine the quality of discussion we could have.

Both Willy's!
Seeing that name gave me flashbacks

[J5V]

All I'm saying is don't give them signing bonuses, nothing else.  We can do everything you say, just don't stick our nose out for $70k to get it cut off.  Is that not prudent?

Agree completely. Walters/Miller are nobody's fools. I'm sure they see things exactly as you've described. The Riders are truly the craphole of the league.

[Jesse]

All I'm saying is don't give them signing bonuses, nothing else.  We can do everything you say, just don't stick our nose out for $70k to get it cut off.  Is that not prudent?

It's just a weird thing to bring up.

We are obviously not offering guys sitting on the couch in Week 15 a signing bonus.

If we are signing a good veteran in the off season, we are likely giving a signing bonus.

The Durant mishap has no bearing. We've given out many signing bonuses since then. Not sure why it was suddenly mentioned.

[Blueforlife]

I have.  Rock In Power Jack Russell.


Your statements are ludicrous.  First off, Dolegala won't be getting a bonus because he's currently unsigned.  Secondly, he's not a Rider, but if you're going to hyper generalize any player because at one point in his career he suited up for Saskatchewan, well, you need the kind of assistance that isn't available here.  Can't wait for Milligan to hit free agency and you to pull out the soap box and go "He's no goode, he's a Rider."  Respect the ability and take the blinders off, it's not a good look.  Thirdly, it happened once.  The Bombers have paid hundreds of thousands if not millions in bonuses since with no issue.  If we follow your "logic" because of an isolated incident, we can't function in FA.  Hell, Zach has a guaranteed quarter mill next year which he definitely is not living up to this season, and he's an ex Rider.  And finally, the only thing Riderfans is good for is watching them eat their own during their annual Labour Day losing streak.  Cornish used to troll them hard, and they all would have cut off their arms to get him on the team. 

If you think Jake Dolegala, a young QB with a lot of runway left and a need to prove himself, is going to pander to fan base which did not treat him well for 10 grand and nuke the likelihood of anyone else ever signing him, well, maybe you need to hang out at RF a lot more.  Seems to be something A51 would have opined on in their prime.

Do I think Dolegala is great?  No, I don't even know if he's good.  But Streveler is likely done til 2026 if not for good, and Zach only has a season left in him at best so we need to get some options in play immediately.

I believe Zach has a little more longevity than you suggest.  Work on succession planing, yes. Write him off early, nope.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

It's just a weird thing to bring up.

We are obviously not offering guys sitting on the couch in Week 15 a signing bonus.

If we are signing a good veteran in the off season, we are likely giving a signing bonus.

The Durant mishap has no bearing. We've given out many signing bonuses since then. Not sure why it was suddenly mentioned.

Walters probably advanced them bus fare to get to Wpg. and a couple of MacDonald's coupons to tide them over.

[Blueforlife]

Walters probably advanced them bus fare to get to Wpg. and a couple of MacDonald's coupons to tide them over.

Left over pinnacle club buffet I heard lol