M. Betts released....signed with BC

Started by Blue In BC, August 27, 2024, 07:36:06 PM

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Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 28, 2024, 12:00:47 AMTrue but if he signs a multi year deal, the team signing him will have to deal with his full salary next season.  I can't find what he was asking for this year, but at the time it seemed pretty outrageous, it would have made him the highest paid DE in the CFL.

It was in or around 300k.

I really only view him as a pass rushing specialist/rotational guy, though.
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Quote from: Jesse on August 28, 2024, 12:16:41 AMIt was in or around 300k.

I really only view him as a pass rushing specialist/rotational guy, though.

Even if he signs for the last 6 or 7 games, it will be a large bump in a teams SMS. As a rotational player he isn't worth $300K IMO.
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I'd take a look.  BC won't have the $$.  MTL is pretty well stocked, probably doesn't have the $$, and needs to start considering all of the year-3 talent that will leave for paydays this off-season.

We should have the SMS.  Then again, we don't need yet another NAT, so why pay the $50k NAT-premium he'll command?

He's a superb pass-rusher with meh run-stop ability.  He'd be killer against pass-mostly teams, and for passing downs.  Has a no-quit motor and pretty quick with a good nose.  He'd make cheetah unstoppable.

I could see TOR, OTT, CGY also being in the market.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 28, 2024, 03:46:52 AMI'd take a look.  BC won't have the $$.  MTL is pretty well stocked, probably doesn't have the $$, and needs to start considering all of the year-3 talent that will leave for paydays this off-season.

We should have the SMS.  Then again, we don't need yet another NAT, so why pay the $50k NAT-premium he'll command?

He's a superb pass-rusher with meh run-stop ability.  He'd be killer against pass-mostly teams, and for passing downs.  Has a no-quit motor and pretty quick with a good nose.  He'd make cheetah unstoppable.

I could see TOR, OTT, CGY also being in the market.


If the price is right we might be able to retain the extra import DT instead of trying to retain the import DE's as well. Both DE's are playing well but ratio always has to be considered just as well as SMS.

Signing another Canadian also has an impact to the potential roster going into 2025.

Since Wallace got injured there might be a need to add an import OL before the end of the season. Wallace was placed on the 6 game IR, so I hope we have our sights out for any available Canadian OL.

Ratio is fluid and we keep losing players to IR.

I'm not sure what I think would be an appropriate SMS but it certainly wouldn't be $300K. Just my opinion but I'd think anything higher than $150K is too much. Something in the range of $120K might be ok. At some point ratio becomes less of an issue than SMS.

What another team might be willing to pay depends on SMS available, ratio need etc. We'll see who opens the wallet.

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Quote from: Pigskin on August 28, 2024, 03:31:22 PMMLB, Shane Ray cut by the Titans.

He was a DE and didn't play in the CFL in 2023. He's also 31 years old now. I don't remember him being used as a MLB.

However I'd think there are a lot of players at every position now available as free agent NFL cuts. Even after there PR rosters are set.
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Quote from: Pete on August 28, 2024, 12:10:36 AMfeels like a number of canadians being  or have been released unfortunately it will likely help the wrong teams
Betts  free agent
Mack  mtrl
Benedet OL  - BC
Uguak DL Mtrl (currently injured designated waiver
hergel OL  sask
Gallimore dl  mtrl
Anim Dankwah ol  toronto
Luiji Vilain ol toronto
Julian Good-Jones free agent
Jonathan Sutherland mtrl
Tevaughn Campbell db  fa
also Dakota Shepley, Nikola Kalinic te, Brett Rypkin,  qb (these players said to be added to practice roster)

4 of the above mtrl owns the rights. Still time for these players to be added to practice rosters.
Looks like Giovanni Manu our pick has made the detroit roster
I think he is there to stay. Picked in the 4th round, but they know he's a project. They will give him every chance to succeed before cutting him loose. The only chance he would get back to us is if he really sucks 2 years later, but then how badly would we want him anyway?

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Quote from: LXTSN on August 28, 2024, 04:34:17 PMI think he is there to stay. Picked in the 4th round, but they know he's a project. They will give him every chance to succeed before cutting him loose. The only chance he would get back to us is if he really sucks 2 years later, but then how badly would we want him anyway?

Manu was always an "in the pipe" guy.  No way we thought he was coming this year, or even in the next few.  But like Gray, he was worth the pick and the wait.  And if he does come available, whenever, we will want/need him.
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Quote from: theaardvark on August 28, 2024, 05:15:54 PMManu was always an "in the pipe" guy.  No way we thought he was coming this year, or even in the next few.  But like Gray, he was worth the pick and the wait.  And if he does come available, whenever, we will want/need him.

True. It's only part of the conversation now because we lost Neufeld and now Wallace to 6 game IR.

EDIT: Betts has cleared waivers and exploring both NFL and CFL options.  He could wait it out or be in discussion with any team on either side of the border.

On one hand there is no hurry for him to decide. On the other hand he could be another player that makes a quick decision to return to the CFL to the highest bidder.

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Cool Spot

Winnipeg should definitely take a look. One thing that winning Grey Cup teams have done, the past few years, is upgrade their defense in the second half of the season. I feel like that's pretty key to winning the whole thing.

Pigskin

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If we can improve our DE position and get more pressure on QBs, I would checking out the asking price. Betts would be a nice add at this time of the year.

Haba: 4 games, 3 DTs.
Garbutt: 5 games, 7 DTs, 1 sack.

2023 Betts: 44DTs, 1 St, 18 Sacks, 4 FF.
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peg_city

I'm sure Walters is asking how much and driving up the price.

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dd

Wow, they must have some fancy adding machine in BC to keep track of their salaries vs the cap, don't know where they are getting the $$$ from but something has to come off the roster for sure...

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Quote from: dd on August 29, 2024, 01:34:58 AMWow, they must have some fancy adding machine in BC to keep track of their salaries vs the cap, don't know where they are getting the $$$ from but something has to come off the roster for sure...

Farham says 145k for the 7 games.

Dunk says there is no marketing money involved.