Official Game Day Thread - Hamilton at Winnipeg August 23, 2024

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2024, 01:01:24 PMIt's the new (as of 3 weeks ago) command guidelines.  Makes perfect sense when you understand they are ignore freeze-frame and slow-mo for these.

I have a hard time believing that. If some media talking head said that, they were mistaken. That's the problem with having the media relay your information.

Not using slo-mo pretty much defeats the purpose of Replay Review. How do you know, or think you know, this (the bolded)?

I could see them ignoring freeze-frame for interference however.

DCM

Quote from: bomb squad on August 24, 2024, 02:25:12 PMI have a hard time believing that. If some media talking head said that, they were mistaken. That's the problem with having the media relay your information.

Not using slo-mo pretty much defeats the purpose of Replay Review. How do you know, or think you know, this (the bolded)?

I could see them ignoring freeze-frame for interference however.
�The clear and obvious principle is defined as having a clear, unobstructed view of the action in question, and the correct outcome is obvious when compared to an established standard created by the rules committee and the CFL officiating department.
On coaches' challenges and automatic reviews, Replay Officials will have a renewed focus on employing the Clear and Obvious principle in its decision-making.

As per the CFL. That to me means ignoring freeze-frames and slow-mo as there would be bodies in the way while they slow it down to find the right angle, no?
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Pete

I get the command center was put in place to overturn clear and obvious mistakes, and have put in place mandates to do that. But it was also done to help player safety
  The spear an lucky, the clothesline on wilson, several head shots yet crickets.
  The league is just doing knee jerk reactions to criticisms vs a well thought out strategy. At this stage they need to take 3-4 gms sit em in a room with someone like Duane Ford to mediate and fix it

Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2024, 01:02:12 PMI can think of 275000 reasons why he keeps trying Lawler.  Well, at least it paid off on the final O play!  (Beauty design and route BTW)

The key word there is FORCE. If he's not open, he's not open. And the final play was the only one where he was open.
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J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2024, 12:37:58 PMKudos to Pokey on that late dart catch in traffic.  And kudos to Zach & Kenny for that critical TD.  That ball had ZIP.  That's what you have Kenny for... many rookies wouldn't handle that zip and would whiff.  Anyone doubting Zach still has an arm, check out the speed on that ball.

That last drive looked a lot like our 1-minute-drill MTL Miracle game way back when.  Just steady drivin' knowing we have 3 downs.
Yes sir! That throw was a Patriot missile between two Hamilton defenders who couldn't make a move on that rocket. Awesome, accurate Patriot missile.
Go Bombers!

J5V

Quote from: GR55 on August 24, 2024, 12:52:50 AMIf I recall correctly, Bryant hasn't missed a start due to injury since signing with Winnipeg.
I do believe that's true. The guy is a marathon man.
Go Bombers!

dd

Quote from: Pete on August 24, 2024, 02:48:49 PMI get the command center was put in place to overturn clear and obvious mistakes, and have put in place mandates to do that. But it was also done to help player safety
  The spear an lucky, the clothesline on wilson, several head shots yet crickets.
  The league is just doing knee jerk reactions to criticisms vs a well thought out strategy. At this stage they need to take 3-4 gms sit em in a room with someone like Duane Ford to mediate and fix it
The missed clothesline tackle on Wilson was ridiculous. How do 7 officials miss that?! And when they do, why isn't command centre stepping in?? Probably the most egregious whiff by an officiating crew I've seen. It was so obvious, and much more dangerous than a horse collar yet it goes unpunished. Brutal.

J5V

Every time someone is surprised by this I'm going to keep reminding that we are not going to get these calls. The league and officials will keep shoving it against us. For some reason which we've already discussed they have it out for us. It has happened too many times now to be ignored or considered a conspiracy theory. Soon the league is going to have to answer for it.
Go Bombers!

The Zipp

Quote from: J5V on August 24, 2024, 03:57:39 PMEvery time someone is surprised by this I'm going to keep reminding that we are not going to get these calls. The league and officials will keep shoving it against us. For some reason which we've already discussed they have it out for us. It has happened too many times now to be ignored or considered a conspiracy theory. Soon the league is going to have to answer for it.


And yet if you pursue the cesspool riderfans forum they are convinced that the Bombers get all the advantageous calls


Truth is prob in the middle that the refs have no bias and call the game as they see it without concern over who the team is. 

dd

The refs don't have a bias towards any team and do call the game the way they see it, I just don't understand how you miss the ball carrier being tackled by a clothesline tackle to his throat!!

LXTSN

There's no point in challenging a call if they have no intentions of overturning calls.

The refs got together on the play and talked about it for a good 20 seconds. If they are unsure on the field of what to call, why are we going with that instead of the great view we had of Alexander picking off that ball? It seemed so clear that White never controlled the ball heading towards the turf. It also was clear it never hit the ground. And then it was clear that Alexander possessed the ball. What was unclear about this one?

Just got me mad again thinking about this call lol

LXTSN

Quote from: dd on August 24, 2024, 04:38:59 PMThe refs don't have a bias towards any team and do call the game the way they see it, I just don't understand how you miss the ball carrier being tackled by a clothesline tackle to his throat!!
Genuine question: is clothesline tackle or head tackle a call? Obviously facemask or horse collar is a call, but I don't know I've ever seen them call a head tackle in the CFL.

dd

Rule 7, article 4i- it is illegal to tackle around the head or straight arm tackle above the shoulders.

The rule is there, it's a player safety issue, call the dam thing!!

BBRT

Quote from: dd on August 24, 2024, 04:38:59 PMThe refs don't have a bias towards any team and do call the game the way they see it, I just don't understand how you miss the ball carrier being tackled by a clothesline tackle to his throat!!

Silly Boy! According to all the Rider Fans the refs are always on the Bombers side and all hate the Riders!!! ;D

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on August 24, 2024, 03:47:07 PMThe missed clothesline tackle on Wilson was ridiculous. How do 7 officials miss that?! And when they do, why isn't command centre stepping in?? Probably the most egregious whiff by an officiating crew I've seen. It was so obvious, and much more dangerous than a horse collar yet it goes unpunished. Brutal.

I agree, player safety should be their #1 priority, perhaps the CFLPA has to be the body that pushes this agenda. In the game Friday, a Rider DB hit an Argo receiver  helmet to helmet almost knocking him out and nobody brought any attention to the vicious infraction including the TSN booth, nor was concussion protocol even mentioned.