Official Game Day Thread - Hamilton at Winnipeg August 23, 2024

[BlueInCgy]

Ugly.  Need to be way better next weekend.  Offence needs to show up.

[ichabod_crane]

I'm optimistic that the Bombers can still win the Grey Cup. If they don't end up 10 and 8 then I won't be so optimistic.

3 under .500 teams have won the Cup in the last 25 years. We had this topic a few weeks ago.

Prior to that it was only at best some .500 teams which the Bombers were in 1988 when their DEFENCE took them to the Cup win. The 1989 CRYDERS were another .500 team that won the Cup too.

THE BIGGEST EVER GC upset would have been when the 5-12 Ottawa ROUGHRIDERS almost beat the 14-1-1 Esks in 1981! They had a 20-1 halftime lead and then choked the second half. A royal joke of a DOUBLE PASS INTERFERNCE call on Tony Gabriel after he made a huge catch late in the game was the farce of that GC. Ends up Schmoes kick  a last play FG to win the game. 

That was the season where the cross over rule was debated VERY HOTLY as even the 3-13 Als made the playoffs and the CRYDERS were like 9-7....total nonsense and why eventually the cross over rule came into effect a few years later. 

[dd]

Biggest grey cup upset ever was in 2001 when the prolific Marcus Crandall lead the 8-10 Stamps past our 14-4 bombers. That one still p*sses me off til this day

[gobombersgo]

[ichabod_crane]

Biggest grey cup upset ever was in 2001 when the prolific Marcus Crandall lead the 8-10 Stamps past our 14-4 bombers. That one still p*sses me off til this day

More like a Bombers choke job and Charles Roberts getting blotto (verified to be true many times over) the night before the big game did not help! Troy the Boy and his less that 75% lifetime FG success rate also did not help. He would not hack it in today's CFL at all where 80% minimum is asked for!

Mind you TROY THE BOY played on some very pathetic Bombers teams during his career. The odd successful  year, but not like the run they are on now.

[TecnoGenius]

Hats off to the fans, the building was loud and proud again tonight.

A good chunk were leaving after the 3rd Zach INT late in the 4th.  They got the ol' MTL Miracle game treatment listening to the 'OB and the canon going off, LOL

Never. Leave. Early.

[TecnoGenius]

Great comments by Zach post game. Says the key was going tempo on that final drive as it kept Hamilton unsettled. Fantastic composure.

This after MOS chewed a fan out on the Coaches Show this week who said we had bad clock management and it was going to lose us games.  MOS said we had the best clock management in the league, and we do.

Dude needs to come here, we'll explain to him why we spend most games bleeding clock a lot... then have the best 2 min drill when required.

[TecnoGenius]

Kudos to Pokey on that late dart catch in traffic.  And kudos to Zach & Kenny for that critical TD.  That ball had ZIP.  That's what you have Kenny for... many rookies wouldn't handle that zip and would whiff.  Anyone doubting Zach still has an arm, check out the speed on that ball.

That last drive looked a lot like our 1-minute-drill MTL Miracle game way back when.  Just steady drivin' knowing we have 3 downs.

[TecnoGenius]

I repeat why is Johnson still playing? Do we have to play with one hand behind our back on offence?

Johnson did have 1 good catch where he got fun YAC dragging a defender or 2 for around 5 yards when he should have been downed.  That's the grit MOS is referring to, I guess.

[TecnoGenius]

Why are we taking 60 yard shots into double coverage!?!

I have a theory.  It makes no sense that we throw deep when we need to bleed off so much clock.  It's dumb, and they've double-covered those routes all night: and they did here too.  So are we dumb??

No, I think we start with the bomb for one reason only: misdirection.  We are saying "we're willing and wanting to go deep".  That loosens the D.  A lot.  Then we spend every other down throwing the dink & dunk.  All the while HAM is still defending the deep threat.  (Because many other teams would keep trying for the bomb.)

Or we're dumb.  You be the judge!

[TecnoGenius]

Should have given up the single.  Whitehead isn't that good

On the missed Leggs FG Lucky played it all wrong.  Ya, we could have done the single (surely a coach would tell him what to do beforehand?)... but if we want to run it out you need to do the dance misdirection in the EZ thing then take it wiiiiiide out to the other side.  You don't try to hit the hole between 2 gunners!  That's what you do in a normal KO situation, not a FG miss!

You need to use your speed in a size/speed mismatch, and that means taking the longest routes everywhere, not busting up a tiny seam into the main coverage!

Someone needs to go over FG scenarios with Lucky again.  Grant would have done it right!

[TecnoGenius]

unbelievable the cc screws us again.. he never had control of the ball!

It's the new (as of 3 weeks ago) command guidelines.  Makes perfect sense when you understand they are ignore freeze-frame and slow-mo for these.

[TecnoGenius]

dont know why Zac continues to try to force it to lawler

I can think of 275000 reasons why he keeps trying Lawler.  Well, at least it paid off on the final O play!  (Beauty design and route BTW)

[TecnoGenius]

Wallace is probably gone for the year. Neufled is on the 6 game, and we only have 6'6' 315, Vanterpool on the PR. Need to bring in some OL.

Neuf may have been being kept on ice while Randolph was looking all-star.  If Big Stan will be out (hoping not!) we'll need a real tackle, and Neuf will be better than Randolph (who got beaten all night at LT).

That would mean Neuf would magically get a clean bill of health from the docs and be back for LDC.

Or Big Stan can just be a flu/heat/food and be back by Sunday!!  Cross your fingers!

In any case, you are right in that we need to find at least 1 OL for the hopper immediately.  We have the ratio room to start 4 IMP if we need to!!  Let's find some beasts and protect Zach again!

[TecnoGenius]

Jones already making a huge improvement to that sorry lot in HAM.

D players playing really mean and nasty.  I counted at least 5 spear-type late-hit whacks or ankle-twists or roll-overs from that D, not even including that completely illegal late Lucky ST hit.

Just like when he was in SSK, they all start playing dirty.  It's coached into them.  Everyone is told to get a lick in on any carrier.  It's real ugly.

I saw many of our guys doing sneak retaliations.  We need to keep that up and punch them in the mouth as hard as they do us.

We won, but everyone got beat up to some degree.  Not what we needed before a more critical divisional rivalry week...