Trouble For Vernon Adams

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I thought DC's figured out Ford late last season, let him run around the backfield all he wants, just stick to the receivers like glue until someone catches him or he throws it up for grabs.

Sure, but it's very hard to do in practice. No one can play man coverage forever. Keeping him in the pocket requires a very athletic but controlled pass rush.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

With Tre Ford back behind centre, the Elks running game suddenly becomes a dual threat and look what Leake did to Sasks vaunted run defence!   Tre Ford can also break one for a huge gain at any time and he also can throw on the run.   He is simply difficult to contain due to his athleticism and ability to escape the pass rush.   He simply can do things that MBT could not do and he makes his offence multidimensional.    The West just got more competitive with the addition of Tre Ford.....it won't be easy making 3rd place and the playoffs in the west and the Bombers are still a long way off from being a .500 team.   

Was our last blowout win a one of or are the 2024 Bombers, a team we've enjoyed watching the past 4 seasons, back?   We shall soon see

[J5V]

With Tre Ford back behind centre, the Elks running game suddenly becomes a dual threat and look what Leake did to Sasks vaunted run defence!   Tre Ford can also break one for a huge gain at any time and he also can throw on the run.   He is simply difficult to contain due to his athleticism and ability to escape the pass rush.   He simply can do things that MBT could not do and he makes his offence multidimensional.    The West just got more competitive with the addition of Tre Ford.....it won't be easy making 3rd place and the playoffs in the west and the Bombers are still a long way off from being a .500 team.   

Was our last blowout win a one of or are the 2024 Bombers, a team we've enjoyed watching the past 4 seasons, back?   We shall soon see

I agree with you completely. What gives a Bomber fan a lot of hope is our defense and special teams play. They have been consistently good. There is also hope now that our offense is rounding into shape and with the imminent return of many of our injured vets we have a good chance of making a run in the second half of the season.

Also, the front runners in the West have run into their own injury issues and starting to fall back to the pack. Us beating BC and the Elks beating Sask is the evidence of that. The West truly is wide open.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

With Tre Ford back behind centre, the Elks running game suddenly becomes a dual threat and look what Leake did to Sasks vaunted run defence!   Tre Ford can also break one for a huge gain at any time and he also can throw on the run.   He is simply difficult to contain due to his athleticism and ability to escape the pass rush.   He simply can do things that MBT could not do and he makes his offence multidimensional.    The West just got more competitive with the addition of Tre Ford.....it won't be easy making 3rd place and the playoffs in the west and the Bombers are still a long way off from being a .500 team.   

Was our last blowout win a one of or are the 2024 Bombers, a team we've enjoyed watching the past 4 seasons, back?   We shall soon see

Tre Ford got off to a good start last season when he replaced Cornelius, he went 5-6 overall but lost his last 4 games in a row, so I think DC's pretty much know how to shut him down. He does open things up for other players and the Elks have nothing to lose at this point, but scramble ball can only take a team so far.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Tre Ford got off to a good start last season when he replaced Cornelius, he went 5-6 overall but lost his last 4 games in a row, so I think DC's pretty much know how to shut him down. He does open things up for other players and the Elks have nothing to lose at this point, but scramble ball can only take a team so far.

The question is how far he has progressed as a passer and how much better he is at reading defenses than he was at the end of last year. Because if (and that's a big if) he can figure that out he's going to be a big problem. Even if he's marginally better it's not going to be easy assignment.

[The Zipp]

The question is how far he has progressed as a passer and how much better he is at reading defenses than he was at the end of last year. Because if (and that's a big if) he can figure that out he's going to be a big problem. Even if he's marginally better it's not going to be easy assignment.

He is electric - I think he is going to get better and if he and his OC and HC can embrace what he brings to the table it will be great for the CFL.

In 2-3 years the CFL will belong to Trey Ford!

[Blue In BC]

Lions just brought in another QB to their PR. That could be a suggestion that Adams will be gone longer than claimed to this point.

[ichabod_crane]

True. This upcoming game with the Elks and BC is going to be interesting. If the Elks take a page out of our playbook and lay another drubbing on the Lions they could go into a bit of a slide. Are they good enough to win with Dolegala?

Dolegala? Was a joke in Sask! Don't expect much better in BC. Will be running for his life.

[ichabod_crane]

Tre Ford got off to a good start last season when he replaced Cornelius, he went 5-6 overall but lost his last 4 games in a row, so I think DC's pretty much know how to shut him down. He does open things up for other players and the Elks have nothing to lose at this point, but scramble ball can only take a team so far.

New head coach now, new OC too I think? Getting that clown Chris Jones out of town probably made the entire locker room celebrate! Ford is a specific for certain....he just needs a legitimate chance and grow into the full time starting QB role. Edmonton is not really playing much for this year (Although they still have a chance to get into the playoffs). The mentality has to be for building toward next year and NO TEAM is building with Macleod Bethel Thompson. A good veteran backup for sure, but he lost EVERY GAME this year so nobody can say he deserves the starting role. Maybe not all his fault, but DEM'S DA BREAKS in football!

[Blue In BC]

New head coach now, new OC too I think? Getting that clown Chris Jones out of town probably made the entire locker room celebrate! Ford is a specific for certain....he just needs a legitimate chance and grow into the full time starting QB role. Edmonton is not really playing much for this year (Although they still have a chance to get into the playoffs). The mentality has to be for building toward next year and NO TEAM is building with Macleod Bethel Thompson. A good veteran backup for sure, but he lost EVERY GAME this year so nobody can say he deserves the starting role. Maybe not all his fault, but DEM'S DA BREAKS in football!

Ford has the natural physical ability to become a good to great QB. The problem is that many good runners use that skill too often and don't develop their passing skills. Part of the issue is that " runners " often get injured early and often.

Others like Flutie of D. Allen became good passers while being dangerous runners.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

New head coach now, new OC too I think? Getting that clown Chris Jones out of town probably made the entire locker room celebrate! Ford is a specific for certain....he just needs a legitimate chance and grow into the full time starting QB role. Edmonton is not really playing much for this year (Although they still have a chance to get into the playoffs). The mentality has to be for building toward next year and NO TEAM is building with Macleod Bethel Thompson. A good veteran backup for sure, but he lost EVERY GAME this year so nobody can say he deserves the starting role. Maybe not all his fault, but DEM'S DA BREAKS in football!

Dumb to blame MBT for what's happened in Edmonton, he's a no nonsense competitor that would be a good addition for any team in the league.  Jarious Jackson is still the OC as he was under Jones.

[ichabod_crane]

Dumb to blame MBT for what's happened in Edmonton, he's a no nonsense competitor that would be a good addition for any team in the league.  Jarious Jackson is still the OC as he was under Jones.

I'm not blaming MBT at all. He was mainly caught up in a hail storm in Edmonton earlier. I will say though if you are a BUILDING team like Edmonton is, then you need a QB to build around. You are not contenders on the brink of a GC. MBT is soon getting long in the tooth to be honest, so you can't bank on him long term. A great backup and mentor maybe, but if Edmonton is going to swing fan interest around, he is not really the guy to do that.

Heck people on this forum were asking to run Zach out of town just a few games ago!! 🤔 I never advocated for that.

I think the Bombers can go at least 6-3 over the second half of the season with what is shaping up with returning vets and how very well our defence is playing and special teams is good as well (especially kicking game)...we just need a return man, but as long as you don't fumble or do stupid plays on returns that is acceptable. Turning the ball over is ALWAYS a bugaboo for a returner.

I hope Zach has found his groove finally. Getting better protection and rumbling on the ground certainly helps the overall offence.

BC in major trouble for a few games at least. Sask on a downward slide EVEN IF Trevor Harris comes back. Calgary is middle of the road. Edmonton maybe recovering, but could be too little too late. Like I have said the past few weeks, the WEST is wide open for the taking even for a 3rd place team if they get hot during the playoffs. Maybe not Calgary as they have not even won one road game yet!!   Mind you the Bombers are ALSO 0-4 on the road too! These two teams seem to only like home cooking. Winning in BC in 1.5 weeks will be a good road warrior start!

[ichabod_crane]

Ford has the natural physical ability to become a good to great QB. The problem is that many good runners use that skill too often and don't develop their passing skills. Part of the issue is that " runners " often get injured early and often.

Others like Flutie of D. Allen became good passers while being dangerous runners.

Hence why I stated "he just needs a legitimate chance and grow into the full time starting QB role". He is not quite there yet. I certainly see the potential though.

[TecnoGenius]

I thought DC's figured out Ford late last season, let him run around the backfield all he wants, just stick to the receivers like glue until someone catches him or he throws it up for grabs.

Yup.  Ford was shutdown pretty quick once the film came out in '23.  They'll do it again this season too.  He's not Mahomes.  He's more like Crum/Dukes, or maybe even a weaker/younger version of VAJ.

That said, Ford is probably the best thing for EDM right now because their OL is hot garbage.  When that's true, you cannot have a Ricky Ray pocket passer like MBT: he'll just get sacked all day.

Ford will do way better with the bad EDM situation until he gets injured flailing around the backfield.  If I'm EDM, I'm looking to airlift some quality OL in or it'll be another lost season.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yup.  Ford was shutdown pretty quick once the film came out in '23.  They'll do it again this season too.  He's not Mahomes.  He's more like Crum/Dukes, or maybe even a weaker/younger version of VAJ.

That said, Ford is probably the best thing for EDM right now because their OL is hot garbage.  When that's true, you cannot have a Ricky Ray pocket passer like MBT: he'll just get sacked all day.

Ford will do way better with the bad EDM situation until he gets injured flailing around the backfield.  If I'm EDM, I'm looking to airlift some quality OL in or it'll be another lost season.

Don't really understand what went wrong in Edmonton, Jones was always quite good in finding and bringing in new talent. I think he just had too much on his plate handling 3 jobs at once and didn't have a clue how to build a culture where players would want to stay long-term as they moved on from many terrific players in the last few years.  Also didn't help he surrounded himself with his buddies who ultimately became "yes men".