Trouble For Vernon Adams

Started by J5V, August 03, 2024, 03:06:17 AM

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J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 08, 2024, 12:31:05 AMIf it's remotely medium-term you have to place him on the 6G pronto to get the relief you need to bring in a capable backup.  Haven't they place him on the 6G yet?
Nope. They're still saying game to game.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 08, 2024, 12:31:05 AMIf they put him on the 1G for 4-5 weeks, how does that make any sense?

Rest him for 6+ and be ready for playoffs.  They're virtually assured 1st or 2nd already.
I dunno about that. A 25-0 drubbing with there No. 1 QB playing almost the whole game doesn't bode well moving forward. We could see an extended slump.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: J5V on August 08, 2024, 12:49:47 AMNope. They're still saying game to game.I dunno about that. A 25-0 drubbing with there No. 1 QB playing almost the whole game doesn't bode well moving forward. We could see an extended slump.

And EDM beat SSK in SSK.  You can't read too much into one week of games.  EDM may go back to sucking, and BC could go back to being king of the hill.  Who knows.
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J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 08, 2024, 12:52:04 AMAnd EDM beat SSK in SSK.  You can't read too much into one week of games.  EDM may go back to sucking, and BC could go back to being king of the hill.  Who knows.
True. This upcoming game with the Elks and BC is going to be interesting. If the Elks take a page out of our playbook and lay another drubbing on the Lions they could go into a bit of a slide. Are they good enough to win with Dolegala?
Go Bombers!

dd

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 08, 2024, 12:52:04 AMAnd EDM beat SSK in SSK.  You can't read too much into one week of games.  EDM may go back to sucking, and BC could go back to being king of the hill.  Who knows.
Edmonton won't suck with Ford under centre, they will be competitive with anyone. Ford gives them the elusive scramble option that changes defenses dramatically. And didn't BC lose to Calgary at home the week before they played us?? I don't think they're going to the top of any hill anytime soon with VA out and even when he comes back, they'll be middle of the road

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on August 08, 2024, 01:57:13 AMEdmonton won't suck with Ford under centre, they will be competitive with anyone. Ford gives them the elusive scramble option that changes defenses dramatically. And didn't BC lose to Calgary at home the week before they played us?? I don't think they're going to the top of any hill anytime soon with VA out and even when he comes back, they'll be middle of the road

I thought DC's figured out Ford late last season, let him run around the backfield all he wants, just stick to the receivers like glue until someone catches him or he throws it up for grabs.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 08, 2024, 02:42:47 AMI thought DC's figured out Ford late last season, let him run around the backfield all he wants, just stick to the receivers like glue until someone catches him or he throws it up for grabs.

Sure, but it's very hard to do in practice. No one can play man coverage forever. Keeping him in the pocket requires a very athletic but controlled pass rush.

Lincoln Locomotive

With Tre Ford back behind centre, the Elks running game suddenly becomes a dual threat and look what Leake did to Sasks vaunted run defence!   Tre Ford can also break one for a huge gain at any time and he also can throw on the run.   He is simply difficult to contain due to his athleticism and ability to escape the pass rush.   He simply can do things that MBT could not do and he makes his offence multidimensional.    The West just got more competitive with the addition of Tre Ford.....it won't be easy making 3rd place and the playoffs in the west and the Bombers are still a long way off from being a .500 team.   

Was our last blowout win a one of or are the 2024 Bombers, a team we've enjoyed watching the past 4 seasons, back?   We shall soon see
Bomber fan for life

J5V

Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on August 08, 2024, 04:47:19 AMWith Tre Ford back behind centre, the Elks running game suddenly becomes a dual threat and look what Leake did to Sasks vaunted run defence!   Tre Ford can also break one for a huge gain at any time and he also can throw on the run.   He is simply difficult to contain due to his athleticism and ability to escape the pass rush.   He simply can do things that MBT could not do and he makes his offence multidimensional.    The West just got more competitive with the addition of Tre Ford.....it won't be easy making 3rd place and the playoffs in the west and the Bombers are still a long way off from being a .500 team.   

Was our last blowout win a one of or are the 2024 Bombers, a team we've enjoyed watching the past 4 seasons, back?   We shall soon see
I agree with you completely. What gives a Bomber fan a lot of hope is our defense and special teams play. They have been consistently good. There is also hope now that our offense is rounding into shape and with the imminent return of many of our injured vets we have a good chance of making a run in the second half of the season.

Also, the front runners in the West have run into their own injury issues and starting to fall back to the pack. Us beating BC and the Elks beating Sask is the evidence of that. The West truly is wide open.
Go Bombers!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on August 08, 2024, 04:47:19 AMWith Tre Ford back behind centre, the Elks running game suddenly becomes a dual threat and look what Leake did to Sasks vaunted run defence!   Tre Ford can also break one for a huge gain at any time and he also can throw on the run.   He is simply difficult to contain due to his athleticism and ability to escape the pass rush.   He simply can do things that MBT could not do and he makes his offence multidimensional.    The West just got more competitive with the addition of Tre Ford.....it won't be easy making 3rd place and the playoffs in the west and the Bombers are still a long way off from being a .500 team.   

Was our last blowout win a one of or are the 2024 Bombers, a team we've enjoyed watching the past 4 seasons, back?   We shall soon see

Tre Ford got off to a good start last season when he replaced Cornelius, he went 5-6 overall but lost his last 4 games in a row, so I think DC's pretty much know how to shut him down. He does open things up for other players and the Elks have nothing to lose at this point, but scramble ball can only take a team so far.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 08, 2024, 04:46:44 PMTre Ford got off to a good start last season when he replaced Cornelius, he went 5-6 overall but lost his last 4 games in a row, so I think DC's pretty much know how to shut him down. He does open things up for other players and the Elks have nothing to lose at this point, but scramble ball can only take a team so far.

The question is how far he has progressed as a passer and how much better he is at reading defenses than he was at the end of last year. Because if (and that's a big if) he can figure that out he's going to be a big problem. Even if he's marginally better it's not going to be easy assignment.

The Zipp

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 08, 2024, 04:48:06 PMThe question is how far he has progressed as a passer and how much better he is at reading defenses than he was at the end of last year. Because if (and that's a big if) he can figure that out he's going to be a big problem. Even if he's marginally better it's not going to be easy assignment.

He is electric - I think he is going to get better and if he and his OC and HC can embrace what he brings to the table it will be great for the CFL.

In 2-3 years the CFL will belong to Trey Ford!

Blue In BC

Lions just brought in another QB to their PR. That could be a suggestion that Adams will be gone longer than claimed to this point.

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ichabod_crane

Quote from: J5V on August 08, 2024, 01:35:45 AMTrue. This upcoming game with the Elks and BC is going to be interesting. If the Elks take a page out of our playbook and lay another drubbing on the Lions they could go into a bit of a slide. Are they good enough to win with Dolegala?

Dolegala? :D Was a joke in Sask! Don't expect much better in BC. Will be running for his life.

ichabod_crane

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 08, 2024, 04:46:44 PMTre Ford got off to a good start last season when he replaced Cornelius, he went 5-6 overall but lost his last 4 games in a row, so I think DC's pretty much know how to shut him down. He does open things up for other players and the Elks have nothing to lose at this point, but scramble ball can only take a team so far.

New head coach now, new OC too I think? Getting that clown Chris Jones out of town probably made the entire locker room celebrate! :) Ford is a specific for certain....he just needs a legitimate chance and grow into the full time starting QB role. Edmonton is not really playing much for this year (Although they still have a chance to get into the playoffs). The mentality has to be for building toward next year and NO TEAM is building with Macleod Bethel Thompson. A good veteran backup for sure, but he lost EVERY GAME this year so nobody can say he deserves the starting role. Maybe not all his fault, but DEM'S DA BREAKS in football! ;)

Blue In BC

Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 08, 2024, 05:47:11 PMNew head coach now, new OC too I think? Getting that clown Chris Jones out of town probably made the entire locker room celebrate! :) Ford is a specific for certain....he just needs a legitimate chance and grow into the full time starting QB role. Edmonton is not really playing much for this year (Although they still have a chance to get into the playoffs). The mentality has to be for building toward next year and NO TEAM is building with Macleod Bethel Thompson. A good veteran backup for sure, but he lost EVERY GAME this year so nobody can say he deserves the starting role. Maybe not all his fault, but DEM'S DA BREAKS in football! ;)

Ford has the natural physical ability to become a good to great QB. The problem is that many good runners use that skill too often and don't develop their passing skills. Part of the issue is that " runners " often get injured early and often.

Others like Flutie of D. Allen became good passers while being dangerous runners.

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