Trouble For Vernon Adams

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

VAJ having many different coaches and playbooks happened. And that makes it more difficult to develop.

That's true.

Trying to claim he's not smart, especially after all his success in recent years, is simply disingenuous.

Depends how you mark success, he's won a few games but that's what he's well paid to do.  Like Fajardo, until he wins playoff games he'll always be questioned.

[blue_gold_84]

Depends how you mark success, he's won a few games but that's what he's well paid to do.

Since joining the Lions, he's posted a 20-10 record as the starting QB. That's more than a few games.

Like Fajardo, until he wins playoff games he'll always be questioned.

The same could be said for any QB. That doesn't negate regular season achievements, though.

[markf]

VAJ having many different coaches and playbooks happened. And that makes it more difficult to develop.

That's true.

Trying to claim he's not smart, especially after all his success in recent years, is simply disingenuous.

Got dumped once, or maybe twice, for Johnny manziel. lol. Great decision making there.

I like VA but I think he puts himself in bad spots trying to do too much, and, I agree, he does not have the build for that.

[blue_gold_84]

I wonder if this injury is in any way similar (or related) to his knee injury last year: https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/bc-lions-qb-vernon-adams-jr-suffers-knee-injury-will-undergo-further-evaluation-1.1987142

[J5V]

I wonder if this injury is in any way similar (or related) to his knee injury last year: https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/bc-lions-qb-vernon-adams-jr-suffers-knee-injury-will-undergo-further-evaluation-1.1987142

It could very well be and like last year it'll affect his effectiveness.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Did anyone ever find a source for this Vernon Adams health claim? I cannot see it.

[Pete]

i think it was taken out of context..in the article it says foreseeable future but goes on to say a few weeks https://www.cfl.ca/2024/08/06/rick-campbell-on-lions-starting-qb-jakes-going-to-be-the-guy/

[TecnoGenius]

The Lions don't have any other QBs on their roster so I expect Adams will be listed as the #3 QB on the depth chart. Whether he dresses or not is the question.

If it's remotely medium-term you have to place him on the 6G pronto to get the relief you need to bring in a capable backup.  Haven't they place him on the 6G yet?

If they put him on the 1G for 4-5 weeks, how does that make any sense?

Rest him for 6+ and be ready for playoffs.  They're virtually assured 1st or 2nd already.

[TecnoGenius]

Masoli here they come or MBT

Masoli would be the far cheaper option.  And he's a high-risk high-reward choice, and BC braintrust seems to like that M.O..

[TecnoGenius]

VAJ having many different coaches and playbooks happened. And that makes it more difficult to develop.

That's true.

Trying to claim he's not smart, especially after all his success in recent years, is simply disingenuous.

He's not.  He's not cerebral.  He's impulsive.  That's part of what makes him good, is he sees something and he slings it fast.  But it can work against him if DCs figure out how to trick him.

No doubt VAJ is athletically gifted, and he has a great fast release and arm, and no doubt he has high football IQ.  But he's about as smart as Cody... they aren't winning any mensa awards.

But do the best QBs ever have to be geniuses?  If there's a scale of brains to athleticism, which area makes the best QBs?  The middle?  I don't know.  The top CFL QBs of the last decade have been on the brainier side of the scale (Calvillo, BLM, Zach, Ray, Reilly, maybe Burris).  But Durant, Kelly and Cody aren't mental giants and they also won cups.  (I'd argue you have to win more than one lucky one to count as a "top CFL QB" though.)

[J5V]

If it's remotely medium-term you have to place him on the 6G pronto to get the relief you need to bring in a capable backup.  Haven't they place him on the 6G yet?

Nope. They're still saying game to game.

If they put him on the 1G for 4-5 weeks, how does that make any sense?

Rest him for 6+ and be ready for playoffs.  They're virtually assured 1st or 2nd already.

I dunno about that. A 25-0 drubbing with there No. 1 QB playing almost the whole game doesn't bode well moving forward. We could see an extended slump.

[TecnoGenius]

Nope. They're still saying game to game.I dunno about that. A 25-0 drubbing with there No. 1 QB playing almost the whole game doesn't bode well moving forward. We could see an extended slump.

And EDM beat SSK in SSK.  You can't read too much into one week of games.  EDM may go back to sucking, and BC could go back to being king of the hill.  Who knows.

[J5V]

And EDM beat SSK in SSK.  You can't read too much into one week of games.  EDM may go back to sucking, and BC could go back to being king of the hill.  Who knows.

True. This upcoming game with the Elks and BC is going to be interesting. If the Elks take a page out of our playbook and lay another drubbing on the Lions they could go into a bit of a slide. Are they good enough to win with Dolegala?

[dd]

And EDM beat SSK in SSK.  You can't read too much into one week of games.  EDM may go back to sucking, and BC could go back to being king of the hill.  Who knows.

Edmonton won't suck with Ford under centre, they will be competitive with anyone. Ford gives them the elusive scramble option that changes defenses dramatically. And didn't BC lose to Calgary at home the week before they played us?? I don't think they're going to the top of any hill anytime soon with VA out and even when he comes back, they'll be middle of the road

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Edmonton won't suck with Ford under centre, they will be competitive with anyone. Ford gives them the elusive scramble option that changes defenses dramatically. And didn't BC lose to Calgary at home the week before they played us?? I don't think they're going to the top of any hill anytime soon with VA out and even when he comes back, they'll be middle of the road

I thought DC's figured out Ford late last season, let him run around the backfield all he wants, just stick to the receivers like glue until someone catches him or he throws it up for grabs.