Trouble For Vernon Adams

Started by J5V, August 03, 2024, 03:06:17 AM

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J5V

Quote from: Pete on August 07, 2024, 02:31:23 AMBc is still 5 & 3, and Adams stats are pretty decent, every qb has a team they seem to consistently struggle against  (ie Zac vs argos,)
On a side note when I looked at stats Bo levi is leading the league in passing yds and tds. A lot of people myself included had written him off
A lot of those stats courtesy two Elks games when they were playing some pretty bad football. He threw five TDs in the last one and was bragging and showboating about it. The guy is still a major headcase. I can't wait to see how he does against us.
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Jesse

Quote from: ModAdmin on August 07, 2024, 05:46:06 AMLions are now reporting that Adams Jr. is out for the "foreseeable future". What that exactly means is uncertain but it sounds more serious than initially stated.

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Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 07, 2024, 02:07:55 AMWonder if the reasons Adams took so long to develop into a starter are the same mental hurdles he's struggling to overcome to this day.  Same applies to Dom Davis and Dakota Prukop, some horses just shouldn't be bet on.

Adams was given a pretty raw deal early is his career. Always being traded around, coaches getting fired. New coordinators, playbooks multiple times per year. Not really the consistency you'd want when your supposedly being developed.
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Sir Blue and Gold

I was really surprised when they said it was short term. It looked and felt bad and they had to cart him out of there.

I'm just guessing, but maybe they discovered an ACL injury and initially he wanted to play though it but changed his mind.

The Zipp

Strange cause in the Province article from yesterday this was Adams:

I'm feeling much better. We got better news than we expected," said Adams, who was wearing brace on his knee Tuesday. "It's not ligaments (damaged) or anything.

"So I'm just ready to attack rehab and get back better and stronger than ever. I need to stayed locked in mentally and do what I can for Jake, Brice and the team.

"The swelling has gone down. I'm just taking it day by day. You can't rush into it too much. You've got to take baby steps and slowly build that strength."

J5V

Quote from: ModAdmin on August 07, 2024, 05:46:06 AMLions are now reporting that Adams Jr. is out for the "foreseeable future". What that exactly means is uncertain but it sounds more serious than initially stated.
Yeah, seeing him hobbling around on the sidelines it definitely looked worse than Campbell and the club was reporting. I'm not surprised. Looks like our luck is improving.
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J5V

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 07, 2024, 01:31:08 PMI was really surprised when they said it was short term. It looked and felt bad and they had to cart him out of there.

I'm just guessing, but maybe they discovered an ACL injury and initially he wanted to play though it but changed his mind.
They kept saying "bone bruise". Well, a bone bruise almost always accompanies some type of fracture and depending on where it is, he could be out for a while. Remember when Drew Willie hurt his knee? He was never the same.
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J5V

Quote from: The Zipp on August 07, 2024, 01:46:38 PMStrange cause in the Province article from yesterday this was Adams:

I'm feeling much better. We got better news than we expected," said Adams, who was wearing brace on his knee Tuesday. "It's not ligaments (damaged) or anything.

"So I'm just ready to attack rehab and get back better and stronger than ever. I need to stayed locked in mentally and do what I can for Jake, Brice and the team.

"The swelling has gone down. I'm just taking it day by day. You can't rush into it too much. You've got to take baby steps and slowly build that strength."
They don't want to say it but that sounds like a fracture to me. Minimum six weeks. Maybe sooner if he can tolerate the pain.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on August 07, 2024, 01:24:18 PMAdams was given a pretty raw deal early is his career. Always being traded around, coaches getting fired. New coordinators, playbooks multiple times per year. Not really the consistency you'd want when your supposedly being developed.

Hard to say if that is true or not, coaches evaluated him at every stop along the way and decided not to invest in him long-term. Could be he's physically gifted like many QB's but not all that smart, which has always been a recipe for failure.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 07, 2024, 03:40:14 AMEven if they do that, and make him #2 in a few reg seasons games, do they really want to play a WDF (or even a WSF!) and a GC with no real QB to back him up?  If VAJ goes down in a WDF or GC and they put Dolegala in, it's game over.  It's not like they can suddenly switch to a run-heavy game.  They have no run game!

Of course, the braintrust in BC might be fine rolling those dice.  It's a reasonable gamble, as all that money on a legit #2 can be spent on every other position.  The only problem is VAJ is prone to injury and I think he's been nursing things for a few weeks now.

I guess in the end (trade deadline) it'll come down to whether BC has any SMS left or not, and how badly they want to put all of their eggs in one VAJ.

Not sure the Lions situation is different than any other team, lose your starter in the playoffs and you're probably not going to win.  They should swing a blockbuster trade for MBT with the Elks, although they would have to dump an equal amount of salary to accommodate him, he would be the perfect backup for almost any team.

Pete

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Quote from: DM83 on August 07, 2024, 02:34:12 AMPete, Stats are for losers.
Not what they were saying for the oast two years about zac. And until last game Adams was the favorite and still is for mop. (In his first game against us he looked like just that. ) Im not saying hes the best qb but hes top 3 in the league this year)
Saying stats is for losers is another way of stating "don't let the facts get in the way of a good story'"

J5V

Quote from: Pete on August 07, 2024, 03:17:46 PMNot what they were saying for the oast two years about zac. And until last game Adams was the favorite and still is for mop. (In his first game against us he looked like just that. ) Im not saying hes the best qb but hes top 3 in the league this year)
Saying stats is for losers is another way of stating "don't let the facts get in the way of my opinion"
The knock on VA has always been his mental state vs his physical ability. He throws a nice ball, is mobile when healthy, but he can be frustrated fairly easily. When he's at his best is when he gets the ball out quickly to his primary receiver. Take that away and force him to read the D to find the open receiver and he struggles, gets the happy feet, and makes a bad throw, gets picked off, or runs with it and gets hurt (he's not a big man). He reminds me of Speedy B, Brandon Banks. Talented but easily frustrated and often hurt. If Banks was a QB he'd be VA.
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Pete

#57
Lot of truth to that, generally hes pretty accurate on his first read. And with the receivers hes had often they will be open, or will make the disputed catch (ie Mcinnis)
  We took that away last game and he struggled.
Especially when he couldn't run away from the pressure as we kept him in the pocket
My question is if your bc who would you rather have as your qb right now?  Thats playing in the cfl)

Sir Blue and Gold

#58
Quote from: ModAdmin on August 07, 2024, 05:46:06 AMLions are now reporting that Adams Jr. is out for the "foreseeable future". What that exactly means is uncertain but it sounds more serious than initially stated.

I looked on social and the usual places, where did they report that? TSN published an article today at 8:17 AM EST and made no mention.

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The Lions don't have any other QBs on their roster so I expect Adams will be listed as the #3 QB on the depth chart. Whether he dresses or not is the question.
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