Rourke released, Signed by Atlanta...and released again AND SIGNS WITH BC

Started by Blue In BC, July 28, 2024, 02:45:39 PM

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Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 13, 2024, 05:41:06 PMI'd guess Sask. or Ham. as the most likely landing spots for V.A. next season.

VAJ is looking so great the past 1.5 seasons because he has a very strong team around him.  If he goes back to a jokesville team he will go back to being hot/cold VAJ, and getting injured all the time.

That said, BC will need to shed his contract in '25.  I could see SSK making a huge play for VAJ if Trevor is clearly useless going into the post-season.
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Tecno

Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 13, 2024, 06:26:19 PMIF LIONS LOSE this coming game, they lose the season series to the Bombers and maybe lose first place in the end. So those are the reasons Rourke may get pushed in...If they had a nice cushion at the top of the West a different story.

It seems abundantly clear that BC desperately wants to win #1 in W so they can play WDF in their cushy warm barn in their t-shirts and shorts.  They really don't want to end up in cold SSK or WPG like the last 2 seasons.

I think they are counting on it.  They are like us in '21... making a clear effort to plan & win #1 so they get the easy 1-home-game path to the cup.
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Tecno

Quote from: peg_city on August 14, 2024, 03:30:10 PMI wonder if this frees up Mathieu Betts if he gets cut

We couldn't possibly find the SMS, unless it was just for like 2 games + playoffs.

But can you imagine us with a DL containing both Willie and Betts?!?!  Unstoppable.
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Tecno

Quote from: The Zipp on August 14, 2024, 06:43:12 PMAccording to the CBA anything over 110k counts towards the cap.

Then square that circle.  BC just outright cheating?  Or promising impossible things now then going back to Rourke in FA and saying "oops, my bad, you get $90k less, doh!".
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 15, 2024, 05:46:52 AM"$749,200 in hard money in 2025 and $809,000 in hard money in 2026"

That's how much!  LOL.

And thus proves my entire premise that if we could squeeze just a bit more into the SMS we could actually lure perennial-PR NFL prospects up here to actually play and earn the same (or better!) money.

That said, BC is (kinda) doing it the wrong way because the total SMS has not increased by the required $0.5M-$1.0M we postulated, but instead is "pulling a Claybrooks" and hamstringing the team with an overpaid QB.  Well... or not, because it turns out $200k of that is fake money not on the SMS.  Doh.

BC found the "cheat codes".

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It proves the opposite actually. This is how much they were willing to pay him and he still took off to go the NFL PR thing for 1.5 seasons.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 15, 2024, 05:51:43 AMVAJ should have been on the 6GIR the day after our last game.  Not doing so was moronic and added no value.  If they put him on now, do they lose 1 or 2 weeks of not being on the 6G?  That SMS is desperately needed to shoehorn in Rourke's salary.  What team has $250k SMS just laying around come Aug 13??


IIRC a team can place a player on 6 game IR retroactively. Now that they've released Dolegala and their PR QB, that is unlikely to happen.

Whether Adams is able to play if needed in the short term is a TBD.

IMO they should have IR'd him. Barring injury to Rourke, he won't be seeing much more playing time in 2024.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2024, 02:01:31 PMHow much more is Dolegala over Terry Wilson? Just wondering!

Wilson must be very close to the bottom on a 1st year ELC. Dolegala was at $110K with $15K of that up front. Now that he's a free agent, his ask may be closer to an ELC?

I don't think Dolegala has long term upside but we don't don't know much about Wilson either. He could be fighting for # 2 in 2025 or gone altogether. No real idea.

Dolegala has more experience at the moment.

I don't think the Bombers will look to bringing him in but I didn't think Rourke would be back in the CFL in 2024!!
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 15, 2024, 02:24:06 PMWilson must be very close to the bottom on a 1st year ELC. Dolegala was at $110K with $15K of that up front. Now that he's a free agent, his ask may be closer to an ELC?

I don't think Dolegala has long term upside but we don't don't know much about Wilson either. He could be fighting for # 2 in 2025 or gone altogether. No real idea.

Dolegala has more experience at the moment.

I don't think the Bombers will look to bringing him in but I didn't think Rourke would be back in the CFL in 2024!!

What if we offer ELC + $25,000 to sign autographs in the back of a moving pick-up truck driven by Boomer around the U of M campus. The truck will have flashing strobe lights. He will also make an appearance at SuperLite where he can show customers how easy it is for him to change the lights out of even the highest fixtures. Deal?

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2024, 02:31:02 PMWhat if we offer ELC + $25,000 to sign autographs in the back of a moving pick-up truck driven by Boomer around the U of M campus. The truck will have flashing strobe lights. He will also make an appearance at SuperLite where he can show customers how easy it is for him to change the lights out of even the highest fixtures. Deal?

You'd be interested in signing Dolegala for the rest of 2024? Honestly I think it's Collaros or bust. If he plays badly or gets hurt, we're doomed. If we had a better record we might have better odds playing Streveler, but margin for error is close to zero.

I'm not convinced we'd win many games if Steveler needed to start.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 15, 2024, 02:41:04 PMYou'd be interested in signing Dolegala for the rest of 2024? Honestly I think it's Collaros or bust. If he plays badly or gets hurt, we're doomed. If we had a better record we might have better odds playing Streveler, but margin for error is close to zero.

I'm not convinced we'd win many games if Steveler needed to start.

I'm partly just trying to poke fun at the marketing dollars but Dolegala is an upgrade over Wilson and he's potentially a better pure quarterback than Streveler. I'd take a hard look at it that's for sure.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2024, 02:01:31 PMHow much more is Dolegala over Terry Wilson? Just wondering!

I think the Bombers 3rd string might be Jerry Wilson...can't recall, might as well be the invisible man. With Strev. filling the gap it feels like we're back to the days of of no QB development beyond the starter.  Don't know if Strev. can carry the beans when Zach is out and we'll boo the 3rd string QB off the field if he ever gets there, because he has zero experience in that situation. Much preferred last year's plan involving all 3 QB's on game day.

Oh well, next year is next year, maybe they'll come up lucky again and stumble upon a loose QB laying on the ground when it comes time to replace Collaros.

theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2024, 03:59:54 PMI'm partly just trying to poke fun at the marketing dollars but Dolegala is an upgrade over Wilson and he's potentially a better pure quarterback than Streveler. I'd take a hard look at it that's for sure.

Really?  Because he's not shown very well in his opportunities.

#3 QB is supposed to be the development guy.  Like Dru Brown.  Wilson is supposed to be the next Dru Brown.

Dolegala is not the next Dru Brown...
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: theaardvark on August 15, 2024, 04:41:58 PMReally?  Because he's not shown very well in his opportunities.

#3 QB is supposed to be the development guy.  Like Dru Brown.  Wilson is supposed to be the next Dru Brown.

Dolegala is not the next Dru Brown...

2024 Dru Brown (4th year in league) - 8 starts, 66% completion percentage, 1936 yards (242 per game), 6 TDs, 4 INTs
2023 Jake Dolegala (2nd year in league) - 10 starts, 65% completion percentage, 2641 yards (264 per game), 11 TDs, 9 INTs 

Take player bias out of it and on paper it's very similar.

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Quote from: Blue In BC on August 15, 2024, 01:30:56 PMIIRC a team can place a player on 6 game IR retroactively. Now that they've released Dolegala and their PR QB, that is unlikely to happen.
A team can not retroactively place a player on the 6-game IL. Mike O'Shea has mentioned this a couple of times on the Coach's Show this year. He has said that the Blue Bombers default is to place injured players on the 6-game list because they can't retroactively do so.
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