Good,Bad * Ugly

[55StickCar]

Good

Defense played well.
Special Teams were very good.
Zach played pretty darn effective.


Bad

Int and Fumbles.
Not kicking the F.G.
Very little offense...again.
Sergio
What a way to lose.
That NON pass interference on the pick 6.
OL
Cross over option is about done.
Very little went our way.

Ugly

Decision to go on 3rd & 1.
We will finish behind Saskatchewan and perhaps Even Edmonton.
Lose both the LDC and the Banjo Bowl.

[TrueBlue75]

Good:

Defense
Collaros
Special teams
Argos crowd seemed engaged in the game

Bad:

-Injury spotters calling down twice. I don't always watch all the other teams play, but have there ever been any other QBs that have been pulled by the spotter? Always seems to happen when the Offense is rolling too. Are they pulling him because of his concussion history? Baffling
-command centre reviews. Would like an explanation on both the non DPI and ball placement reviews.

Ugly:
-Castillo (can't blame the chip this time can he?)
-fumbles. Just unreal!
-O-line
-Osh not going for the FG. In a season where the team is fighting for their playoff lives this early in the season, you take the points and trust your defense who were actually doing well!
-losing another winnable game
-short week coming up (will injuries be a factor from this game?)

[J5V]

Bad:

-command centre reviews. Would like an explanation on both the non DPI and ball placement reviews.

What city were we playing in? Where is the command centre located?

[Jesse]

Good:

We put up a bunch of yards
Zach hit a long TD
Wilson had a good game too
Defense was lights out
Still within a win of a play-off spot...

Bad:

OL looked rough
fumbles ruined us (and by our best players)
Lots of yards without any TDs is not a good sign

Ugly:

Finding new ways to lose every week
Eli for Neufeld didn't look any better

[Blue In BC]

If our record wasn't that bad, it would be easier to just chalk this game off to a combination of bad luck.

The team played well aside from the horrible turnover issue. However it was against the Argos which are not top tier.

I thought O. Wilson, Bonds, Ford, Johnson, Garbutt and Case played well as starters. The back up DB's didn't seem out of place. So we have found some good rookie talent

It's the veterans that let us down one way or another.

[barbk]

BAD:

Our O-line (not protecting ZC)
Demski #10 (how many fumbles in YAC)
2 missed FG by Sergio
PLay calling by Buck Pierce) and no adjustments in 2nd half

THE REFS AND COMMAND CENTRE!!!!

Good:

our defence played much better

[dd]

The Good
Collaros played a great game, took a pounding but delivered a great performance
Special teams containing grant, he didn't break the record on us!!

The Bad
our O line was dreadful, absolutely dreadful, we need to air lift help here or Collaros doesn't finish the season
Woli getting hurt

The Ugly
The fumbles and turnovers- we had terrible ball security
The PI that wasn't called on the pick six, defender twisted our receivers body prior to the ball getting there and that's PI everytime. And CC doesn't over turn which is par for the course, they're brutal

[Pete]

the good
Kramdls best game
the secondary was solid
Bighill made some plays
WIlson is a keeper
Collaros
Woods is very underated
the bad
fumbles
oline exemplified by not getting the third and one that would have won us the game
(interior almost bordered on ugly)
Johnson cant make a catch in traffic and on the outs doesnt have the ability to make one guy miss or the power, goes down way to easy
Bucks play calling, we need to do way more play action to give Collaros a chance
Lack of creativity, again 2nd and inches we do a dive play
Ugly
the key phrase in past years is that each player is accountable to the other, numerous times O'Shea has stated he doesn't need to make adjustments his player will do that
Sorry but looking at all the mistakes especially be vets such as Demski, Neufeld, Kolankoski, Even Olivera on his fumble it's not happening at least with the offence. We've said it consistently on this forum its O'Shea and Walters who have to make the adjustments

[markf]

The really Ugly:

Once again, the officiating

Seems like this is a problem that can not be fixed.

Blatant Late shove knock  down on Collaros .... No flag. Official right there.

Not even a comment from the play by play team. Shrug.

Protecting the refs from criticism at all costs, is a poor policy.

Not watching CFL today. Protesting this second rate officiating, that we see week after week.

Collaros should pack it in after this season. Not worth it. Some of  his teammates abandoned him last night.

[dd]

Looking at Collaros s body language last night, he's frustrated and tired of being beaten up. He had an angry look on his face most of the night and understandably so. I thought he played a good game last night while those around him took turns and screwing up on every drive it seemed. Over 300 yds of offense and you only generate 16 points, ya, several screwups killed us

[TecnoGenius]

We will finish behind Saskatchewan and perhaps Even Edmonton.

Surely you jest.  C.Jones EDM might have pulled ahead.  Jarius EDM is going backwards at triple speed.

[TecnoGenius]

-Injury spotters calling down twice. I don't always watch all the other teams play, but have there ever been any other QBs that have been pulled by the spotter?

Yes, other QBs have been pulled, if not this season then definitely last season.  WRs too, and even some defenders.

But this is probably the first time I've seen spotters pull a player who had nothing touch his helmet at all.  No H2H, no arm to helmet, no turf to helmet... nothing!

But Zach did look in sleepyland laying on the field.  Very strange.  You can still concuss in strange ways just by falling (even with no head strike), I guess.  But then they put him right back in, so he wasn't(?) concussed...

Maybe Zach took my advice about Cody School Of Writhing?  However, to pass Cody's course you have to actually writhe.  Just going lights out isn't good enough.

Refs didn't care even one iota about the push/sleep.  Also strange.

[TecnoGenius]

The team played well aside from the horrible turnover issue. However it was against the Argos which are not top tier.

Uh, TOR is going to end up either 1st or 2nd in the E... and almost certainly be in the EDF and 50/50 shot at making the GC.  They are literally top tier.  You don't go from a historic, record-setting season to EDM-level incompetence in 8 months.

You do our team an injustice by minimizing how well our injury-destroyed team did to not get blown out by TOR.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes, other QBs have been pulled, if not this season then definitely last season.  WRs too, and even some defenders.

But this is probably the first time I've seen spotters pull a player who had nothing touch his helmet at all.  No H2H, no arm to helmet, no turf to helmet... nothing!

But Zach did look in sleepyland laying on the field.  Very strange.  You can still concuss in strange ways just by falling (even with no head strike), I guess.  But then they put him right back in, so he wasn't(?) concussed...

Maybe Zach took my advice about Cody School Of Writhing?  However, to pass Cody's course you have to actually writhe.  Just going lights out isn't good enough.

Refs didn't care even one iota about the push/sleep.  Also strange.

I think Zach played it up a bit to get a penalty call and it didn't work. When the CC called his bluff he couldn't protest much because he pretended he was out for a few seconds laying on the field motionless. Another gamble that did not pay off. 

Found it strange they pulled Johnson when he exhibited no sign of concussion, but never considered the hit that knocked his helmet off a penalty. Why was Johnson wearing a full faced fire suit? He looked like the invisible man!

[Blue In BC]

Uh, TOR is going to end up either 1st or 2nd in the E... and almost certainly be in the EDF and 50/50 shot at making the GC.  They are literally top tier.  You don't go from a historic, record-setting season to EDM-level incompetence in 8 months.

You do our team an injustice by minimizing how well our injury-destroyed team did to not get blown out by TOR.

4 teams have better records than the Argos. They are currently 3rd in the east. If not for the bonehead decision by the Bombers to not kick the FG, their record would be worse.

[blue_or_die]

The Good
- Defense was great
- Kramdi
- Zach had a good game, despite the abuse
- Best Case Ontaria

The Bad
- Sergio was not dialed in the other night
- The horrendous, game-changing fumbles
- Turnstile OL
- Officiating

The Ugly
- The spot

[Blueforlife]

Good Kramdi

So many doubted him, key cog

[theaardvark]

OK, new controversy... were the balls doctored?  They seemed a different colour for us, and 3 usually reliable players coughed it up.

Good:

Easily winnable game
O played well
D played exceptional, special nod to the oft maligned Kramdi for bringing it

Bad
Officiating in general
Outcome
Potential injuries

Ugly
Turnovers
Non PI call on Demski / pick 6.  Flagrant PI. 
Spot on the Steve turnover on downs.
Turnovers
Almost winning with a 5-1 turnover ratio

[DM83]

Great comments!

However, this is becoming a repeat of all the previous games.

Are we lousy? We seem to have lost all but one game on the last play and usually by 3 points.
So imagine winning those three point losses we would be 6-1.

So how do we lose? Individual players don't make plays.

[theaardvark]

Great comments!

However, this is becoming a repeat of all the previous games.

Are we lousy? We seem to have lost all but one game on the last play and usually by 3 points.
So imagine winning those three point losses we would be 6-1.

So how do we lose? Individual players don't make plays.

We should not be relying on the last play/drive to settle games.  We should be winning them outright.  Going 5-1 in turnoers, and having the CC not catch a flagrant PI that would have been at least a 10 point swing is tough to overcome.

Teams win or lose as a team.  No player or one play should decide a game.  Except when its those darned Zebras.

[Stats Junkie]

OK, new controversy... were the balls doctored?  They seemed a different colour for us, and 3 usually reliable players coughed it up.

The footballs used by each team are the same footballs they used in practice. Teams are permitted to prep a football using a brush, tack bar, tack spray & prep conditioner. The colour will depend on how each team preps its footballs.

The 'K' balls are not prepped.

How to prep a Wilson Football

Bottom of article mentions the Omega football (not sure if it is used in CFL).
"...the Omega has extra wax and tack built into the leather. When the ball comes out of the box, the coloring will be darker, the ball will be easier to break in, and it will maintain its pebble grain for longer, giving you maximized grip."

[Nic16]

GOOD
The O showed some life moving the chains
The D continues to improve!
ST coverage was blanket-like
3 stars...1.Kramdi 2.Brady 3.Zach

BAD
Castillo...sorry Sergio!
The CC...missed the PI & 3RD down spot calls.
Lack of killer finish with Buck's O.

UGLY
Fumbilitis continues to plague this team
Zach's TD to INT ratio
Losing to a 3rd string QB with less than 100yds passing.

[J5V]

Yes, other QBs have been pulled, if not this season then definitely last season.  WRs too, and even some defenders.

But this is probably the first time I've seen spotters pull a player who had nothing touch his helmet at all.  No H2H, no arm to helmet, no turf to helmet... nothing!

But Zach did look in sleepyland laying on the field.  Very strange.  You can still concuss in strange ways just by falling (even with no head strike), I guess.  But then they put him right back in, so he wasn't(?) concussed...

Maybe Zach took my advice about Cody School Of Writhing?  However, to pass Cody's course you have to actually writhe.  Just going lights out isn't good enough.

Refs didn't care even one iota about the push/sleep.  Also strange.

This, so much this, and Zach has never been respected by the officials in this league. They have let him get clobbered numerous times with no flags and he knows it. I think he lay there pondering exactly this situation.

[TecnoGenius]

Why was Johnson wearing a full faced fire suit? He looked like the invisible man!

Ya, he's an F1 driver in a previous life? 

Maybe he's still covid-scared.  I've seen (only) a couple of players still doing the gaiter thing across the league.

When you're running around half the game in hot, muggy weather, you want maximum O2 flow, not upping your CO2 retention.  IMHO really dumb.  But maybe it's for another reason like he sweats profusely or something weird like that.  We may never know as he'll probably never be pulled aside for an TSN interview, and he'll likely not be on the AR (or PR!) much longer.

[TecnoGenius]

4 teams have better records than the Argos. They are currently 3rd in the east. If not for the bonehead decision by the Bombers to not kick the FG, their record would be worse.

I stand by my prediction TOR is in the WDF.  I even bet they finish way ahead of OTT, because TOR will be a completely different team with Kelly back and they will smoke OTT in their remaining matches.

TOR is a very good team getting destroyed by a too-green QB and a Jennings-level washed-up backup Arbuckle.

[Blue In BC]

I stand by my prediction TOR is in the WDF.  I even bet they finish way ahead of OTT, because TOR will be a completely different team with Kelly back and they will smoke OTT in their remaining matches.

TOR is a very good team getting destroyed by a too-green QB and a Jennings-level washed-up backup Arbuckle.

WDF? LOL. I'll take that bet.

[TecnoGenius]

WDF? LOL. I'll take that bet.

Doh!  Ya, you know, the thing.