BLUE BOMBERS ADD DEFENSIVE BACK AARON GRYMES TO PRACTICE ROSTER - NOW RELEASED

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theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 30, 2024, 04:02:38 PMInjuries are part of the problem but not the only (or even biggest one). There's not the single rookie on the offensive line, actually the guy with the least experience is playing the best, and that unit is LAST in sacks allowed, for example.

Sacks allowed is not 100% on the oline.  There are "coverage sacks" and there are blitzes where the oline doesn't have a chance.  5 guys can make perfect blocks, and if they rush a 6th and the RB misses him, sack.

Sacks can also happen when a QB is having an issue with confidence, and holds on too long.

Not saying there haven't been sacks on Oline whiffs, but not all of them have been the oline's fault.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: theaardvark on July 30, 2024, 04:18:29 PMSacks allowed is not 100% on the oline.  There are "coverage sacks" and there are blitzes where the oline doesn't have a chance.  5 guys can make perfect blocks, and if they rush a 6th and the RB misses him, sack.

Sacks can also happen when a QB is having an issue with confidence, and holds on too long.

Not saying there haven't been sacks on Oline whiffs, but not all of them have been the oline's fault.

From the Toronto game:

Zach Collaros dropped back to pass 37 times and Chris Streveler had one passing attempt. Of those 38 dropbacks, they were hurried nine times, hit five times, knocked down three times, and sacked five times.

When Toronto only sent a three or four-man rush, which they did on 21 occasions, those non-blitz rushes led to four hurries, one hit, two knockdowns, and an unforgivable four sacks.

...Sounds like great offensive line play to me!

The Zipp

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 30, 2024, 04:23:06 PMFrom the Toronto game:

Zach Collaros dropped back to pass 37 times and Chris Streveler had one passing attempt. Of those 38 dropbacks, they were hurried nine times, hit five times, knocked down three times, and sacked five times.

When Toronto only sent a three or four-man rush, which they did on 21 occasions, those non-blitz rushes led to four hurries, one hit, two knockdowns, and an unforgivable four sacks.

...Sounds like great offensive line play to me!

sub par at best...I do think TO has a very good defence - better than BC's IMO, so perhaps we will get a reprieve for our porous O-line this week.

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 30, 2024, 04:23:06 PM...Sounds like great offensive line play to me!

Nearly positive he was being sarcastic... Those details, basically what I outlined on my rewatch, are atrociously bad and completely unacceptable in the CFL.
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Tecno

Quote from: theaardvark on July 30, 2024, 04:18:29 PMSacks allowed is not 100% on the oline.  There are "coverage sacks" and there are blitzes where the oline doesn't have a chance.  5 guys can make perfect blocks, and if they rush a 6th and the RB misses him, sack.

Ya, an every single coverage sack where the QB has >3 sec could be avoided by channeling the inner Matt Nichols and chucking it into the stands.  Nichols wasn't wrong about everything, ya know.
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Quote from: BlueInCgy on July 31, 2024, 11:56:13 AMYou know it's bad when the virtues of Matt Nichols are extolled...

Matt Nichols was a great QB, no besmirching allowed!

blue_gold_84

Quote from: BlueInCgy on July 31, 2024, 11:56:13 AMYou know it's bad when the virtues of Matt Nichols are extolled...

TIL being a consistently competent QB qualifies as virtuous.
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Blue In BC

We've taken off two rookie DB's from the last game. BC is primarily a passing team. To that end I could see Grymes being added onto the AR.

At the moment, based on the transactions yesterday we have room for 1 more import. Another possibility due to injuries to Canadian LB's is that we add Karamoko as the 2nd Global player in lieu of a Canadian moving to IR.

Part of the real question is about how long are the new injuries going to be out if they move to IR? Two LB's and Woli are the " questionable " players.

OTOH, the good news is that we haven't heard they were moved to 6 game IR. YET. Maybe they can play
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Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2024, 01:43:34 PMWe've taken off two rookie DB's from the last game. BC is primarily a passing team. To that end I could see Grymes being added onto the AR.

At the moment, based on the transactions yesterday we have room for 1 more import. Another possibility due to injuries to Canadian LB's is that we add Karamoko as the 2nd Global player in lieu of a Canadian moving to IR.

Part of the real question is about how long are the new injuries going to be out if they move to IR? Two LB's and Woli are the " questionable " players.

OTOH, the good news is that we haven't heard they were moved to 6 game IR. YET. Maybe they can play

We had a lot of DBs on the roster last week for some reason. Normally we have Hallet one one extra DB. Last week it was 2 Hallets and 2 extra DBs.

Had to balance that out.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2024, 02:10:36 PMWe had a lot of DBs on the roster last week for some reason. Normally we have Hallet one one extra DB. Last week it was 2 Hallets and 2 extra DBs.

Had to balance that out.

Yes and no. Adams is a much better passer than the Argo QB's. A heavy rotation of fresh DB's against Adams is not a bad idea. However the balance was out of whack when we needed another receiver due to injuries.
One game at a time.

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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2024, 02:31:43 PMYes and no. Adams is a much better passer than the Argo QB's. A heavy rotation of fresh DB's against Adams is not a bad idea. However the balance was out of whack when we needed another receiver due to injuries.

Other than injury replacement, what are you referring to?  DB's normally play entire games without rotation.


Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 31, 2024, 02:37:38 PMOther than injury replacement, what are you referring to?  DB's normally play entire games without rotation.



Don't think that's the case, saw lots of our back-ups in the field last week.
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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2024, 02:31:43 PMYes and no. Adams is a much better passer than the Argo QB's. A heavy rotation of fresh DB's against Adams is not a bad idea. However the balance was out of whack when we needed another receiver due to injuries.
Agreed. Adams is clearly the best Qb in the league in terms of passing and avoiding the rush-he has very quick feet in the pocket. Dukes and Arbuckle are at best backup Qb's, both can't pass to save their souls.

Given our soft pass rush, our secondary is going to be tested like no other game this season, and with only 5 days between games, I just think that just catches up to them in the second half. On the other side though, Lions have been off for 2 weeks, so they may be slow coming out of the blocks with a bit of rust, but man, they have some weapons on offense to contend with.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 31, 2024, 02:37:38 PMOther than injury replacement, what are you referring to?  DB's normally play entire games without rotation.



We often add in a 6th DB in
 obvious passing downs. Depending on field position, distance we use different extra DB's in varied defensive schemes.

At times Alexander is clsoer to LOS and maybe Hallett drops into the normal safety position. We saw Kramdi making TFL and Griffin seemed to be on the field.

It's hard to tell with the constant changing of personnel, who is where or why.

The DB's seemed to be used more in coverage teams last week?
One game at a time.