CFL injuries

Started by Blue In BC, July 22, 2024, 05:50:42 PM

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LXTSN

It does seem like Neufeld has been the weak link this year.
I also thought that Eli would start over Dobson at the beginning of the season. I would imagine that Eli gets the opportunity to start before Wallace does.

Nic16

We must remind ourselves this is Dobson's first yr as a starter. He arrived to the BB's highly touted so we gotta him time to settle in.

Wallace is the RG in waiting. But like 90% of rookie OL, he needs time to figure things out.

Eli is obviously the heir apparent to Kolankowski. It's just puzzling why it's taking so long.

Lofton is arguably the weakest RT in the league. But Osh prefers vets over rooks.

Bryant needs to keep drinking from the fountain of youth, or we're in big big trouble!

theaardvark

Quote from: Nic16 on July 29, 2024, 06:57:36 PMWe must remind ourselves this is Dobson's first yr as a starter. He arrived to the BB's highly touted so we gotta him time to settle in.

Wallace is the RG in waiting. But like 90% of rookie OL, he needs time to figure things out.

Eli is obviously the heir apparent to Kolankowski. It's just puzzling why it's taking so long.

Lofton is arguably the weakest RT in the league. But Osh prefers vets over rooks.

Bryant needs to keep drinking from the fountain of youth, or we're in big big trouble!

Not puzzling about Eli, he's an awesome 6th man, and is ready to step in at TE or OG/C in case of injury, but your vets who have time together stay together until you have a reason they shouldn't.  If Kolo gets a better offer, or gets injured, or ages out, Eli is the next man up.  Much like every year with our oline.  We stick with the vets until there is a reason not to.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: theaardvark on July 29, 2024, 07:02:08 PMNot puzzling about Eli, he's an awesome 6th man, and is ready to step in at TE or OG/C in case of injury, but your vets who have time together stay together until you have a reason they shouldn't.  If Kolo gets a better offer, or gets injured, or ages out, Eli is the next man up.  Much like every year with our oline.  We stick with the vets until there is a reason not to.

...You can't think of any reasons?! We're staring down the pipe of a full overhaul.

Nic16

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 29, 2024, 07:10:16 PM...You can't think of any reasons?! We're staring down the pipe of a full overhaul.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 29, 2024, 07:02:08 PMNot puzzling about Eli, he's an awesome 6th man, and is ready to step in at TE or OG/C in case of injury, but your vets who have time together stay together until you have a reason they shouldn't.  If Kolo gets a better offer, or gets injured, or ages out, Eli is the next man up.  Much like every year with our oline.  We stick with the vets until there is a reason not to.

I guess performance or competition never enter the criteria?

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 29, 2024, 05:28:33 PMKolankowski is probably playing about as good as he usually does but unfortunately when he's not surrounded by all-star play he's exposed.

This could be true.  But we've never seen Ko-man play with a superb LG.  Him and Gray always had issues with their A-gap... got a bit better, but never as good as Desjar/Couture was.

But I don't think WFC wants to ditch Ko-man: they've made him the "don't vape @PAS" jumbotron guy (ditching the much scarier and more effective Big Stan one IMHO), and they just gave him a practice presser last week (that NEVER happens... strange timing).  I think the team is trying to build him up, not get ready to show him the door on a trade or FA.

And I'll never be sold on Eli as the starting C until I see it in action and it works AND he puts on 20+ more lbs.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 29, 2024, 05:28:33 PMNext year we'll probably have a completely rebuilt line.

With the way we do the OL pipeline this is impossible.  Where are these rebuild guys going to come from?  Can't afford to build half or most an OL in FA with our budgets.  As long as we have the over-ratio and no money, I would put all resources into finding IMP rookies and being open to starting them ANYWHERE, including C and either (both!) G!  Rookie IMP OL would cost basically nothing and certainly can't suck worse than we have now if we shuffle through like 15 of them to find the keeper(s)?  Unfortunately, doesn't help us this year, and will also lock is into the strange ratio we've been employing (which might suck for '26).
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: LXTSN on July 29, 2024, 05:48:41 PMIt does seem like Neufeld has been the weak link this year.

Why?  This doesn't "just happen".  Not for a Neuf-caliber guy.  He was our best remaining NAT.  You can't just say "age" because didn't Walby play until he was 85, and the much more demanding RT spot?

It must mean Neuf is dinged up.  He certainly was stout to begin the year.  On the games I graded he was certainly not the problem guy.  But I haven't checked the last 2 games yet...
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: theaardvark on July 29, 2024, 07:02:08 PMNot puzzling about Eli, he's an awesome 6th man, and is ready to step in at TE or OG/C in case of injury, but your vets who have time together stay together until you have a reason they shouldn't.  If Kolo gets a better offer, or gets injured, or ages out, Eli is the next man up.  Much like every year with our oline.  We stick with the vets until there is a reason not to.

Here's some reading for you about the offensive line https://3downnation.com/2024/07/30/yards-without-points-winnipeg-blue-bombers-can-move-football-but-cant-score-touchdowns/

Blue In BC

So both Woli and Neufeld moved to 6 game IR. Anybody know the actual extent of their injuries? How about contract amounts?
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Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2024, 04:45:47 PMSo both Woli and Neufeld moved to 6 game IR. Anybody know the actual extent of their injuries? How about contract amounts?

lol. You always ask questions for which there are no answers.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2024, 04:59:45 PMlol. You always ask questions for which there are no answers.

There are posters that might have seen something on the telecast that I did not. There may be those that have local connections with more information. We're in living in a total vacuum.
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Pigskin

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2024, 05:53:39 PMThere are posters that might have seen something on the telecast that I did not. There may be those that have local connections with more information. We're in living in a total vacuum.

I was at the game and report that Neuf was injured. He limped off the field and it looked like the trainer was looking at his knee. A little surprised that it's a 6 game injury.
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The Zipp

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 30, 2024, 03:59:03 PMHere's some reading for you about the offensive line https://3downnation.com/2024/07/30/yards-without-points-winnipeg-blue-bombers-can-move-football-but-cant-score-touchdowns/

Great article - loaded with facts, numbers, examples...can't ask for much more analysis than that.  It is a game and the other team is obviously trying to beat you every play - these trends and facts show us that we are getting beat on the o-line - teams will also smell blood and attack our weaknesses, that is happening on the o-line and you can bet every team we play knows to try and knock the ball loose - cause it is a weakness.  This is what makes football so great and fun to watch (just not when your team is the one get feasted on).

Pigskin

Toronto release Canadian DL Joseph. Calgary releases American MLB Diego Fagot, 6'3" 247. Could be a good PR pickup.   
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The 6 game isn't the old 6 game. You can take as many players off at any time, so you put all of them on the 6 game if they look to be out for more than 1 game. 
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