Chris Jones fired

Started by Blue In BC, July 15, 2024, 09:12:54 PM

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Blue In BC

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high time. Should have been in the off-season.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Wow, Bede may not be able to sleep at night.

"Geroy Simon takes over as interim general manager, while offensive coordinator and quarterbacks Coach Jarious Jackson becomes the team's interim head coach. Jackson will retain his offensive play calling duties."

Lord almighty, Jackson is part of the problem, not the solution.

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 15, 2024, 09:35:13 PMWow, Bede may not be able to sleep at night.

"Geroy Simon takes over as interim general manager, while offensive coordinator and quarterbacks Coach Jarious Jackson becomes the team's interim head coach. Jackson will retain his offensive play calling duties."

Lord almighty, Jackson is part of the problem, not the solution.
Exactly. Explain to me why it took the elks 4 quarters before they threw the ball to lewis, their most prolific and dangerous weapon they have?!?

I said yesterday I d have sent Bede packing after the kick out of bounds, or else Jones would be fired, and they chose Jones. And Jones should have ran the clock down to zero on the final play to ensure they go to overtime so maybe that got him canned. At season one Nd they need to clean house as Jackson is not the answer not even as an OC



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Lord almighty. About freaking time! Jarious Jackson HC. YIKES! Guess they had not much choice.

Bede cost his coach his job today.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 09:59:05 PMExactly. Explain to me why it took the elks 4 quarters before they threw the ball to lewis, their most prolific and dangerous weapon they have?!?

I said yesterday I d have sent Bede packing after the kick out of bounds, or else Jones would be fired, and they chose Jones. And Jones should have ran the clock down to zero on the final play to ensure they go to overtime so maybe that got him canned. At season one Nd they need to clean house as Jackson is not the answer not even as an OC



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Blue In BC

#7
Jarious Jackson has been around for a long time. He could be the next Dinwiddie or Dickenson as a QB becoming coach.  I'm not sure how much Chris Jones directed the offence. I thought that was Jackson, so not much needs to change in that aspect?

Geroy Simon is a talented resource. He'll start making changes soon. Deadwood out on the roster. Might even see some trades to get some immediate help.
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dd

Not much needs to change on offense?? How about throwing the ball to Lewis before 90 percent of the game is over. To me, Jackson is the problem, but whatever, fire jones and then fire Jackson, doesn't matter to me, but when you misuse arguably the most prolific receiver in the game, you can start there with the axe!!

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Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 10:34:21 PMNot much needs to change on offense?? How about throwing the ball to Lewis before 90 percent of the game is over. To me, Jackson is the problem, but whatever, fire jones and then fire Jackson, doesn't matter to me, but when you misuse arguably the most prolific receiver in the game, you can start there with the axe!!

Game plan might change now that Jackson has more freedom than he might have had with Jones. I was speaking about their offensive roster.  They can put up points. Need more focus but their losses have been to very small margins and shooting themselves in the foot.

If Jackson was the one not wanting to throw to Lewis you might have a point. It wouldn't seem that wasn't the case because the HC could have influenced the game plan before the game and even during.

The Elks didn't have much focus on the run game. MBT as a passer was the focus. They need more balance. However, whether that was the OC, HC or lack of confidence in their RB's, IDK.

Onto the next game. If players didn't think their jobs were on the line recently, they better re-think that. More scrutiny.



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Still early enough to salvage the season.  Won't be easy.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 15, 2024, 11:29:04 PMIf Jackson was the one not wanting to throw to Lewis you might have a point. It wouldn't seem that wasn't the case because the HC could have influenced the game plan before the game and even during.

Ya, you guys/gals are making a lot of assumptions about the use of Lewis.  Jarius is the OC so he's the one directing the plays.  In no way, shape or form does the HC tell his OC "make sure you don't throw to player X".  That's patently ridiculous.

Not throwing to Lewis is a function of Jarius, MBT, and the blanket coverage OTT would be putting on him all game.

Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 10:34:21 PMTo me, Jackson is the problem, but whatever, fire jones and then fire Jackson, doesn't matter to me, but when you misuse arguably the most prolific receiver in the game, you can start there with the axe!!

dd gets it.

I actually feel a bit bad for Jones.  Did you see his face when all these dumb plays were occurring?  He couldn't believe it.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 09:59:05 PMI said yesterday I d have sent Bede packing after the kick out of bounds, or else Jones would be fired, and they chose Jones.

I'm starting to wonder about this whole situation.  Did anyone see Bede's face after the missed FG and especially the botched KO?  They showed him sitting on the sidelines a lot.  He didn't look the way kickers who screw up and cost games look.  He was smiling, laughing, saying "ya!", just leaning back relaxing.  It was bizarre.

Remember how H<20 more letters> looked when missing his 5 kicks in 1 game?  Ya, he didn't look like that.  He looked suicidal, not insouciant.

I wonder if there was some internal setup to sabotage Jones.  It all seems very convenient.  A potential HoF kicker who has probably the best leg (strength) and basically never misses from inside the 40 suddenly misses a 31Y FG and then screws up a straight-down-mainstreet KO?

I would bet dollars to donuts the management already wanted him out and there were rumors or covert meetings and plans.  They just needed a better excuse: sheer incompetence in front of home fans was the perfect cover.

Remember, these are the same dolts who hired Jones in the first place.  They are doing their own CYA.  Take the spotlight off of their dumb decision 3 years ago, and the wasted 3 years.  I can't even recall one person on this forum or Riderfans that thought hiring Jones was a good idea back then.  It was one of the dumbest decisions in all of CFL history.

This whole situation stinks, but we'll probably never know.  Maybe we'll get a hint if Bede is retained, or given a bonus!
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TecnoGenius

#14
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 09:59:05 PMAnd Jones should have ran the clock down to zero on the final play to ensure they go to overtime so maybe that got him canned.

Easy to say now.  I can't recall ever seeing a team run down the clock on a 3rd&G from the 1.  Ever.  You want to leave a bit of clock for backup tries should team B go O/S (there was time for 2-3 more tries).  Team B going O/S is like a 20% occurrence rate!  You show me one other game where a team drained clock in this exact situation.

No, you play it normally and you hoof it and you make 1 single stop on D in prevent D formation.  The only way teams ever win in this situation is if they get the 2-3 times-a-season KO return for TD... and that's also nearly impossible here because ST can play "prevent D" too and sit way back because they don't care if they give up 10-40, they just can't give up 50-100.  If the returner runs longer than 8s the game is over anyhow.
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