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theaardvark

Quote from: Jesse on July 18, 2024, 06:33:38 PMGetting Case and Hallett on the roster before Lucky is meh for me.

Obviously, the team knows more than we do.  Case was the choice for returner before injury.  Lucky was available then.  We chose Case.

Hallett on for ST's, taking over for Chris-Ike
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Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on July 18, 2024, 06:39:08 PMObviously, the team knows more than we do.  Case was the choice for returner before injury.  Lucky was available then.  We chose Case.

Hallett on for ST's, taking over for Chris-Ike

I disagree that they are infallible and always make the correct choice.
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M.O.A.B.

Riders QB and receivers doesn't scare me. We have a good passing defence.
Ouellette scares me though as we have a struggling run defense.
Unless Biggie return to form this game or Jones turn out to be the MACK that we are looking for.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on July 18, 2024, 06:57:04 PMRiders QB and receivers doesn't scare me. We have a good passing defence.
Ouellette scares me though as we have a struggling run defense.
Unless Biggie return to form this game or Jones turn out to be the MACK that we are looking for.

Ouellettie hasn't been that successful this season, his running ability depends heavily on great blocking which the Sask. O-line has been unable to provide.  More worried about broken plays were Emilus or Schaffer-Bakerman catch a short pass and ramble for 40 odd yards.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on July 18, 2024, 02:32:23 PMI like trying Case on the KR as I feel Smith is underwhelming. Although it's a bit scary having a new guy there. Hope he catch everything and not wait for it to bounce first.

I don't get taking out Chris-Ike.

Smith didn't drop a single one.  Mitchell did in his first game and opened the scoring for MTL and may have set the momentum in a direction we couldn't recover from against that team.

So I'm fine with Smith vs a new guy who may "Mitchell" the ball in an important divisional game.  I don't care what Case does, as long as he secures the darn ball.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on July 18, 2024, 06:39:08 PMObviously, the team knows more than we do.  Case was the choice for returner before injury.  Lucky was available then.  We chose Case.

Hallett on for ST's, taking over for Chris-Ike

Clearly Lucky is either out of shape or needs more time to learn the book.  Plus, this is a game we should have the advantage in, as SSK has "no QB" and is missing their best OL (put Willie on that side all night!).  As such, let's see what the Case kid can do in live action!

Last game we dressed 2 FBs.  When has that ever happened?  That's crazy talk.  I'm fine with Chris-Ike coming out.  I'm sure we'll see Ike back in sometime in the future.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 18, 2024, 07:29:31 PMOuellettie hasn't been that successful this season, his running ability depends heavily on great blocking which the Sask. O-line has been unable to provide.

Teams figured out Oullette: go real low and knock out the shins.  That's why he countered in the last game by doing a hurdle.  Still, he falls after the hurdle, so it's still worth going for the low tackle.

Never try to tackle Oullette's arms/torso, it just doesn't work.  That said, small DBs can get pretty beat up bracing to take out his knees... he's a big dude with lots of momentum.  Hopefully our LBers and FS can handle most of the tough hits.
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Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 18, 2024, 07:29:31 PMOuellettie hasn't been that successful this season, his running ability depends heavily on great blocking which the Sask. O-line has been unable to provide.  More worried about broken plays were Emilus or Schaffer-Bakerman catch a short pass and ramble for 40 odd yards.

Oullette is nothing more than an average RB. He doesn't worry me at all.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 19, 2024, 12:40:41 AMClearly Lucky is either out of shape or needs more time to learn the book.  Plus, this is a game we should have the advantage in, as SSK has "no QB" and is missing their best OL (put Willie on that side all night!).  As such, let's see what the Case kid can do in live action!

MOS isn't going to insert a drop in FA over one of the guys who have been here since training camp. He has to earn the spot first somehow.
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Pete

Hence why so few inseason free agents sign with us. Can't convince me that Titus Wall or Oakman wouldn't have helped us.

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Jesse

Quote from: Pete on July 19, 2024, 02:19:37 PMHence why so few inseason free agents sign with us. Can't convince me that Titus Wall or Oakman wouldn't have helped us.

You make it sound as if FA don't want to sign with us; but it's really that we have no interest in signing them.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: Pete on July 18, 2024, 02:41:34 PMI dont get having 5 import LBs, and 3 nat for a total of 8.
Was hoping to see Lucky W in,but maybe he not in game shape or hasnt impressed.
Adding Hallett. indicates a lack of nat options At the beginning of season if you told me Hallet,Smeckle and Feltmate would be on starting roster Id think our draft was a disaster.Our roster mgmt is questionable.
Disagree roster management has been fine considering injuries

Quote from: Jesse on July 18, 2024, 06:42:13 PMI disagree that they are infallible and always make the correct choice.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Pete on July 19, 2024, 02:19:37 PMHence why so few inseason free agents sign with us. Can't convince me that Titus Wall or Oakman wouldn't have helped us.

Pretty sure any FA player that wants to come to the CFL would rate Winnipeg as one of their top choices, as long as the $SMS is equitable and their position is open.

But like Jesse says, in most cases, either we have the position covered, or we don't have $SMS available.  Like Sankey, if we had $200k in cap left and Bighill was injured/retired, pretty sure Sankey would be a Bomber.  But we had neither $SMS or a spot for him.  C'est la vie.
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Pete

Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2024, 06:00:26 PMPretty sure any FA player that wants to come to the CFL would rate Winnipeg as one of their top choices, as long as the $SMS is equitable and their position is open.

But like Jesse says, in most cases, either we have the position covered, or we don't have $SMS available.  Like Sankey, if we had $200k in cap left and Bighill was injured/retired, pretty sure Sankey would be a Bomber.  But we had neither $SMS or a spot for him.  C'est la vie.
know that's the view from the outside, but how many free agents have we pursued in season? How many posters have been asking for this? Yet in the past two years is there anyone on our roster that has played a game for us that we've signed as a vet cfl player in season? If were a destination it sure hasn't shown up. Its not always about the sms and the high profile player. Not sure what Wall signed for or if Chandler Worthy isn't good enough (seeing as were last in the league in return yardage)
 A vet with any resume may be hesitant to come to a team where they have to prove themselves from scratch.
Its likely a combination of factors, but i don't think we are looked upon as a favorite destination.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pete on July 19, 2024, 06:11:15 PMknow that's the view from the outside, but how many free agents have we pursued in season? How many posters have been asking for this? Yet in the past two years is there anyone on our roster that has played a game for us that we've signed as a vet cfl player in season? If were a destination it sure hasn't shown up. Its not always about the sms and the high profile player. Not sure what Wall signed for or if Chandler Worthy isn't good enough (seeing as were last in the league in return yardage)
 A vet with any resume may be hesitant to come to a team where they have to prove themselves from scratch.
Its likely a combination of factors, but i don't think we are looked upon as a favorite destination.

It all goes back to being a top team in the league with their main focus being  retaining their own players, because they are usually the top rated at their position.  The Bombers have not pursued the FA strategy vigorously since their GC win in 2019, mainly because every penny goes towards retaining their own.