Good,bad and Ugly

Started by 55StickCar, July 13, 2024, 03:43:25 AM

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55StickCar

Good

Ontaria Wilson spectacular
Ontaria Wilson
Nick Demski
Deadrick Nichols
Zach Collaros. After that last Int.
Defense. Came up big on that last Calgary drive.
We win by 4 to get the Season Series.
Brady O.
Nice punt block.
Sergio

Bad

Couple of bad Int's
Defense struggled most of the game.
Took too long to get our run game going.
That challenge call on the Demski catch.

Ugly

Those many multiple Stamps' completions over the centre.

Defense falling asleep just before the half.





Blue In BC

The Bad:

As others have mentioned, Bighill, Alexander and Wilson are all not playing very well. That said we aren't getting enough push from our DL. Every QB has had too long to throw and find open receivers.

The Good:

Ford made some terrific plays but a missed tackle on the 1st drive was a 53 yard catch/YAC. He was about 1' away from knocking down that TD pass. He did get the int I predicted.

Bonds gets better every game. DId get beat a couple of times. What can you expect when Maier had enough time to write a novel before throwing.

O. Wilson. Well that explains why they kept him around. I thought he only had about 30 yards total in the other 5 games!!

Take no prisoners

dd

The Good
The gutsy call by O'Shea's to go for 2—playing to win! I can just imagine the howling if we d have missed it!! Still ballsy call

The Bad
Our aging veterans on defense and getting slower every game!! Young guns making plays, old high priced vets aren't

The Ugly

The stinking heat and humidity these guys had to play in !

Blueforlife

The good
O is back
Bad
Ints
Ugly
Humidity

TecnoGenius

UGLY

Our guys were slipping a lot on the turf.  Like a lot.  And in ways that cost us.  CGY's were not.  What they heck is going on with our footwear?  CGY knows what footwear to bring better than we know our own field?  New turf causing issues?  Humidity?  I never want to see that again.
Never go full Rider!

Jesse

Good

- Ontaria Wilson
- Zach's best game of the season
- Second half Brady
- 2 straight wins
- Passing TDs!!
- Nichols pick-6
- Bonds/Ford looking pretty good

Bad

- A couple bad interceptions
- First half run game
- Defence thought the game ended with 3 minutes left in the 2nd quarter?
- Pass rush is not getting home

Ugly

- Reading some of the game day thread; This was the most exciting game of the year and you're sitting there saying how much we suck and we never had a chance. Go touch some grass.
My wife is amazing!

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Jesse on July 13, 2024, 01:24:10 PMGood

- Ontaria Wilson
- Zach's best game of the season
- Second half Brady
- 2 straight wins
- Passing TDs!!
- Nichols pick-6
- Bonds/Ford looking pretty good

Bad

- A couple bad interceptions
- First half run game
- Defence thought the game ended with 3 minutes left in the 2nd quarter?
- Pass rush is not getting home

Ugly

- Reading some of the game day thread; This was the most exciting game of the year and you're sitting there saying how much we suck and we never had a chance. Go touch some grass.

here here on the Ugly. We beat a tough opponent who came to play.
I LOSHT MY MEMBER IN AN UNFORTUNATE SHMELTING ACCSHIDENT!

BomberFan73

#7
Good: 
Sticky/Pokey Wilson, pretty impressive anytime a WR gets a 200 yard game
Brady O got 100+ on only 15 carries, he made the most of them.  2 games in a row now, lets keep this up
Going for 2 and Winning the tiebreaker vs CGY

Bad:
Sloppy tackling, settling for FGs instead of TDs far too often
TSN messing up the scoreboard & down/yard most of the game

Ugly:
Wilson saying  they are not allowed to keep game balls.  Really?  He had a heck of a game, give him the ball!

markf

#8
what happens with receivers now?  Lucky?

and when Lawler returns?

Ford looks really good. speedy, smart, good tackling.

speaking of past their prime players, I thought  Cam Judge looks like he is past his.  and Did not notice Awe much either.

 will say that Jake Maier is really up and down but he pulled himself together last night, and played very well.


also think Zach is a bit too hard on himself. 

it will ne interesting to read the stats for Bombers D.

ugly..... Bombers twenty yards rushing first half. Alexander..not sure he is top rank anymore. Dickensen waving his arms around, sour faced look we know so well.

Bombers beat a good team. so lots of reason for optimism.

Jesse

Quote from: markf on July 13, 2024, 01:50:45 PMwhat happens with receivers now?  Lucky?

and when Lawler returns?



Johnson and Clercius are only in the starting line-up due to injuries...
My wife is amazing!

Pete

#10
Adding to the good
Very exciting entertaining game, go from groaning over a missed tackles, or explosion play against us,to cheering the next moment for a great wilson catch, ford/nichols interception, Cadwallader block etc. We get a 10 point lead, all the momentum and then give it away on the next 2 possessions. Followed by a return to our offence of a balanced running and passing game.
Actually thought Kyrie Wilson had a strong game
Great to see Zacs second half.
Adding to the bad
Dline - the lack of pressure and adequate rotational players led to them being gassed by 4th.
OShea not challenging pi in the endzone
The issue with the bad was there was so little resistance by the d in the 4th. Specially across the middle (big reason for the negativity on the game posts)
The ugly
Osheas challenge on Demski catch, also why didnt the officials talk to him,as Ive seen numerous times in other games

TBURGESS

Our best game by far. I'm happy to be wrong in the pick-ums. 

Collaros showed flashes of his former glory and flashes of this year. 

Ontaria was in beast mode. Made some incredible catches to make Collaros look good & the Stamps look bad. 


Brady O falling on Demski's fumble kept us in the game.

Ford showed good and bad. Made some big plays and some big mistakes.

The D had a good 3rd quarter but allowed 458 yards & 37 points against. 

The blocked punt is what finally won it for us. 

Going for 2 instead of 1 was huuuge! Gave us the season series as well as the game. 

MOS challenges a 2 yard loss catch, then the accidental PI that kept our last drive alive. 
Winnipeg Blue Bombers - 2019 Grey Cup Champs.

peg_city

#12
I think our secondary got exploited because our D-line didn't get enough pressure. I know this is because of injuries. The off-season might be a good time to throw Shoen's or Lawler's money at the best DE in the league.

Besides the one interception (thrown to Demiski, I don't blame Collaros for the first) and a couple of bad incompletes, Collaros looked good. He had some incredible throws.

peg_city

Quote from: markf on July 13, 2024, 01:50:45 PMwhat happens with receivers now?  Lucky?

and when Lawler returns?


Last I heard about Lawler is he doesn't have his cast on now, but won't be playing this month. So, I'm expecting an August return.

Our receives will be good when healthy:

Lawler
Wilson
Demski
Clercius/Wolitarski
Whitehead/Wheatfall

Blue In BC

Quote from: peg_city on July 13, 2024, 02:54:49 PMLast I heard about Lawler is he doesn't have his cast on now, but won't be playing this month. So, I'm expecting an August return.

Our receives will be good when healthy:

Lawler
Wilson
Demski
Clercius/Wolitarski
Whitehead/Wheatfall

I'm expecting him back on July 27th against the Argos. After that they play the Lions Aug 1 on a short week so that might be when he returns with fresh legs.

Bombers go on a bye until Aug 18th when they play the Lions again in Vancouver.

I don't know whether Lawler will start getting practice reps this week. If he doesn't that would suggest not returning on the short week against the Lions.

Realistically we need to win both games against the Lions to move up the standings.
Take no prisoners

dd

#15
The thing that worries me about the Lions  is the lack of pressure we get on Adams, he ll have all day to pick apart our secondary —who hard themselves a good game against Calgary and are improving every week. Still, you give VA tons of time, and he ll gash you, what he did to Hamilton was embarrassing. I m hoping we can hold our own against them, as Collaros and our receiving corps is improving every week too. Should be a great game

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 13, 2024, 01:33:51 PMGood: 
Sticky/Pokey Wilson, pretty impressive anytime a WR gets a 200 yard game
Brady O got 100+ on only 15 carries, he made the most of them.  2 games in a row now, lets keep this up
Going for 2 and Winning the tiebreaker vs CGY

Bad:
Sloppy tackling, settling for FGs instead of TDs far too often
TSN messing up the scoreboard & down/yard most of the game

Ugly:
Wilson saying  they are not allowed to keep game balls.  Really?  He had a heck of a game, give him the ball!


I think the thing with the game balls now is the chip makes them too expensive to keep or throw away. Demski almost always flips his TD balls into the stands at home, with the chip the league probably bills players $500 or whatever everytime a ball is kept or lost.

bwiser

Good-weather was great
    -Colleros has his best game of the season
    -Ontaria Wilson has a breakout game
    -special teams were special, blocked punt, 57 yard field goal good coverage on kicks
Bad-defense most of the game
  -front seven on defense were not good enough poor pass rush, way too many yards allowed on the ground
  -allowing a huge gain on a broken play
Ugly-officiating

markf

3down nation

"Dedrick Mills had a heck of a first half, racking up 108 yards on eight carries.

In the second half, he had seven more carries but totalled just 23 yards for a game total of 131, which doesn't quite tell the story.

"We didn't do much blocking the edge. I thought (Bombers defensive end Willie Jefferson) just had his way with us," Stampeders head coach and general manager Dave Dickenson said after the game. "In the second half, we just couldn't run the ball on first down, and that was what got us in more trouble."

Slingin Sammy

#19
Good:
- Pokey's breakout game;
- Winning a 2nd game in a row with a significantly depleted roster that included starters, (particularly on the D Line) who were projected to be back ups or back ups to back ups.

The Bad:
- Lack of push from the D Line for the majority of the game.  Kudos to Fatboi for the late sack; but he and the DLine failed to put any significant pressure on Maier for the preceeding 59 mins.

The Ugly:
- 2nd week in a row refs have blown a call, (not calling the spear on Strevy last week, and blowing the play dead on a catch this week) resulting in an ugly emotionally charged challenge by Osh
Everyone is a genius at least once a year. The real geniuses simply have their bright ideas closer together.

BomberFan73

Dunnigan really struggled lastnight.

J5V

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 13, 2024, 05:35:24 PMI think the thing with the game balls now is the chip makes them too expensive to keep or throw away. Demski almost always flips his TD balls into the stands at home, with the chip the league probably bills players $500 or whatever everytime a ball is kept or lost.

Interesting. Is the NFL doing the chip too? Is there really a big advantage to having this chip? I wonder what kind of valuable data they're hoping to collect. Also, I thought the kickers hated the chip and wanted it gone. Did that not happen?
Go Bombers!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: J5V on July 14, 2024, 05:01:17 PMInteresting. Is the NFL doing the chip too? Is there really a big advantage to having this chip? I wonder what kind of valuable data they're hoping to collect. Also, I thought the kickers hated the chip and wanted it gone. Did that not happen?

I believe the kickers are allowed to use "chipless" balls, but they are in play otherwise.  They can collect all sorts of data by tracking the balls movement including precise placement on the field when a ref. can't determine it's exact location, as in a goal line stand. Pretty sure the CFL hasn't got this synched with the yard markers yet but it should be a tool used in determining first downs.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 13, 2024, 01:33:51 PMUgly:
Wilson saying  they are not allowed to keep game balls.  Really?  He had a heck of a game, give him the ball!

Yup.  It's the chips.  They talked about this in 2023, I think?  They said if players took balls the league would charge them $500 each.

From what Pokey said it seems clear that the entire WFC decided that no one was going to take balls, because then WFC would have to cough up $500 each.  I have seen players of other teams taking balls, so this would appear to be a voluntary choice.

Perhaps WFC should let (i.e. pay for) each player to keep their first CFL TD ball.  Who would disagree with that?  Or make it entirely the player's option: they keep a ball, it's a guaranteed $500 off their pay check that week.

This is also why the red-shirts go up into the stands to hunt down balls that make it into the crowd.  If it was me, that ball would be in my backpack in 3s flat and I'd be like "what ball!?".  :D  :D  :D
Never go full Rider!

theaardvark

So, if a QB throws a ball OOB and it ends up in the stands, $500?

Saw an ELk toss a ball into the crowd, I think it was Gittens on the two point, $500?

Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on July 15, 2024, 04:31:20 PMSo, if a QB throws a ball OOB and it ends up in the stands, $500?

Saw an ELk toss a ball into the crowd, I think it was Gittens on the two point, $500?



Most likely a CFL official hustles to retrieve the ball from the stands, maybe offers them a coupon or something in exchange.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on July 15, 2024, 04:31:20 PMSo, if a QB throws a ball OOB and it ends up in the stands, $500?

Saw an ELk toss a ball into the crowd, I think it was Gittens on the two point, $500?

You bet.  But read my post above yours.  I watch those stadium workers (with my binocs) hustle up to get those balls like they are made of diamonds.

I assume if they throw the ball too far (like 2nd level heaven forbid) and can't recover it that 100% they charge the player/team.

It's actually kind of lame: if you are lucky enough to catch an crowd-pass/kick you should keep the darn ball.  Imagine MLB doing this!  Holy smokes, people bring their gloves to help catch game balls!

Now, since they've told us the chips are right under the laces, at worst they should just dig in there and take the chip out and let you keep the ball.... or the dude climbing the stands can carry up a non-chipped ball and you swap balls.  Everyone wins: kid in the stands keeps the ball, and CFL saves $ on the chips.

Imagine my 5yo catches a ball and is so happy & proud and redshirt comes up and rips it out of her hands.  Ya, that'll go down real well.
Never go full Rider!

J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 16, 2024, 03:00:57 AM... or the dude climbing the stands can carry up a non-chipped ball and you swap balls.  Everyone wins: kid in the stands keeps the ball, and CFL saves $ on the chips.
Yeah, I really like this idea. It makes the most sense. That's exactly what should happen. Could always throw in a bonus prize too to sweeten the deal. Fans would love it!
Go Bombers!