Calgary @ Winnipeg

[Blue In BC]

Ford is not coming off for Griffth, he is one of your best DBs in coverage.

If an injury occurs.  It was just a hypothetical example of who might be the next man up and how it might be part of the ratio requirements etc.

[M.O.A.B.]

Our once-feared DL and LB is thing of the past. Not sure this version of DL will produce some pressure on Maier and co. Mike O'Stubborn will cause another loss because of his poor roster management.
 

[CrazyCanuck89]

If an injury occurs.  It was just a hypothetical example of who might be the next man up and how it might be part of the ratio requirements etc.

It was a terrible example.  If you had said for injury that would've been better.

[Blue In BC]

It was a terrible example.  If you had said for injury that would've been better.

If you were following the conversation this was a question about ratio, declared starters, DI's and what the options might be.

Also I did specifically say in my example " if Ford was injured ".  Re-read post # 140.

Here is another example; Smith is probably listed as a DI. Now if Oliveria is injured we will see Augustine take up his role. OTOH, if Smith was not designated as a DI, he could take on Oliveria's role.

Obviously Augustine is a veteran, more familiar with the playbook etc etc.  There is a risk of using your returner on too many plays on offence. Not only due to possible injury but just workload.

We haven't seen enough of Smith as an actual RB. The question is he a better choice at RB as next man up in case of injury? Because we're starting more Canadians, that is why the classification selection is important.

Given the previous example of Ford, it makes more sense to not have Griffith as a DI. We don't have as good an option to replace him with a veteran Canadian per se. It would likely mean Alexander moving up from safety and Hallett going in at safety.

That's an arguable discussion point of which is the better option.

[markf]

I would like Collaros to throw to receivers that are getting open, and not look only for Demski, wolitarski.

Streveller was able to do this, surely Zach can as well.

[Jesse]

I would like Collaros to throw to receivers that are getting open, and not look only for Demski, wolitarski.

Streveller was able to do this, surely Zach can as well.

These guys were taking turns playing in their first games when Zach was in. Maybe now that he's actually practiced with them and they have a couple game under their belt, they'll be open for him.

[Slingin Sammy]

If Lucky O is undersized, is running him in a 4-3 any different than running a 3-4?

Just saying, we've been effective in a 3-4 and in a cheetah, although with our DE and oversized LB ranks depleted, not sure Cheetah is much in the plans right now...

If you take a close look at D Line play this year, we sometimes have the ends lined up on the line before a snap, or we have D Ends creeping from linebacker depth before the snap..so we're sometimes bringing the ends from depth like what could happen in a 3 4 set...pretty neat wrinkle...

[Blue In BC]

If you take a close look at D Line play this year, we sometimes have the ends lined up on the line before a snap, or we have D Ends creeping from linebacker depth before the snap..so we're sometimes bringing the ends from depth like what could happen in a 3 4 set...pretty neat wrinkle...

It means we use speed more than brawn in those situations. 34 defences were good at the time and effective at times now. Defenders can come from multiple locations, depths and time within a play. Or they can drop into coverage at times like Bighill does.

Cole would be another example. He could line up as a LB, rush the QB, fill a running gap or drop into coverage.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

I think we escaped this weeks game without losing anyone else to injury. Banged and bruised but able to play.

OTOH, I'm not so sure Calgary might not be missing some players this week. All their RB's have really been banged up.

Oliveria is healthy, angry and ready to run over and through players. Whether Streveler starts or sees a more limited role, he probably will see the field in some fashion to pound their defence. It's a short week for a road game for the Stamps.

Calgary hasn't looked that good against the run, so we need to continue what we did this week. Perhaps not quite to that extent. A good run game helps win LOS, TOP and field position.

This game is within reach of winning. Home crowd may be the difference needed.

Agreed...definitely within the realm of possibilities for the Bombers right now albeit the Stamps always play us tough!  Zach must be the Zach we have grown to love and appreciate and he needs to be the difference maker in this game

[dd]

This game although early in the season is like a playoff game, we need to beat Calgary and Edmonton to get into the playoff race, lose and we re one step closer to the sidelines come playoffs

[pdirks67]

But the chart the public gets is missing many key components.  For instance, the WPG charts (such as this week's one I link to below) never list who are the DAs (nee DIs).  And who knows, maybe we also specify DNA/DNS (as also required by rule) in the "hidden" sheet, but clearly we never do on the public chart.

And your comparison to a "normal" place of work is disingenuous.  The CFL is producing a public product, for public consumption, and with major real world monetary consequences for third parties (i.e. the gambling industry) that is directly influenced by the pre-game information teams provide.  It's not like who our DAs are is the formula for Coca Cola Classic.  We're not talking internal memos from HR about what Bomber Store staff should be hired or fired.

If the public chart is a second class citizen, merely to placate the masses, what's to keep teams from just lying, or putting down nonsense?

And what do the other teams get to see?  The official sheet or just the public chart?  If other teams get to see the official sheet, then that makes the comparison to a normal place of work even more absurd... because Coke doesn't share their formula with Pepsi.

A lot of us fans get frustrated that we're left guessing who the DAs are each week.  Other teams publicly announce their DAs on their charts.  Do you think it's an unreasonable ask that us fans should receive the rule-mandated DA/DNA/DNS information, as most teams already provide?

And what's the harm in sharing the simple, rule-mandated information with the public?  You make it sound like it's some closely guarded trade-secret that no one should have any business seeing.  Stepping back for a sec, the whole situation looks rather silly.

https://static.cfl.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2024/07/CALGARY-AT-WINNIPEG_JULY-12.pdf

I just did a very quick scan of depth charts for all 9 teams. Looks like BC and Winnipeg are the only two teams that don't list DA's on their publicly-posted depth charts. Having said this, to derive the DA's, can't I just look at any import that's listed as a backup and assume that they are a DA?

[Blue In BC]

I just did a very quick scan of depth charts for all 9 teams. Looks like BC and Winnipeg are the only two teams that don't list DA's on their publicly-posted depth charts. Having said this, to derive the DA's, can't I just look at any import that's listed as a backup and assume that they are a DA?

Harder to do when you are starting 11 Canadians. Easy to do when you are starting only 7.

[RebusRankin]

Any team that needs an extra NAT on D.  Fatboi is better than many teams' "hiding the NAT" FSs or LBs.

Would anyone start Fatboi when they didn't need the ratio help and had a Stove on the roster?  No, of course not.  But in the CFL, that isn't always the question, is it.

I'd argue Fatboi is more effective this year than Ted Laurent was last year.  And he was starting.  He's also probably as effective as Laing is the last couple of seasons.

He doesn't start over Johnson and Wynn in Montreal. Ditto over Sayles and Hendrix in Hamilton. Same with Banks and Covington in BC. Toronto doesn't start him over Ceresna and Brinkman. Calgary starts Rose and Coatney over him no question. Don't see him starting in Saskatchewan.

Claiming that he's better than teams 7th national starter isn't the flex you think it is.

Jake has never been a guy who should be starting and he's definitely not that now. The fact that we've got a subpar pass rush and are the worst in the league against the run are two huge reasons why he's a waste of a starting spot.

Better than Laurent or Laing, what are you smoking?

[dd]

He doesn't start over Johnson and Wynn in Montreal. Ditto over Sayles and Hendrix in Hamilton. Same with Banks and Covington in BC. Toronto doesn't start him over Ceresna and Brinkman. Calgary starts Rose and Coatney over him no question. Don't see him starting in Saskatchewan.

Claiming that he's better than teams 7th national starter isn't the flex you think it is.

Jake has never been a guy who should be starting and he's definitely not that now. The fact that we've got a subpar pass rush and are the worst in the league against the run are two huge reasons why he's a waste of a starting spot.

Better than Laurent or Laing, what are you smoking?

The sad part is Jake Thomas got our only sack of the night in tonight's game. That speaks volumes of how bad our defensive line really is. A guy who arguably shouldn't be starting got our only sack. Boom, mike drop!!

[Blue In BC]

The sad part is Jake Thomas got our only sack of the night in tonight's game. That speaks volumes of how bad our defensive line really is. A guy who arguably shouldn't be starting got our only sack. Boom, mike drop!!

Seriously. All game I was thinking we should cut him this weekend. Totally ineffective. We may as well start another rookie to see if he has upside.

Of course that would mean we'd have to have one available on the PR. Maybe we should activate Samson for next week and get him some reps. I'm not sure if Schmekel saw any reps?