Official Game Day Thread - Ottawa at Winnipeg, July 5, 2024

[Waffler]

As for Lucky he may be in Wpg. but he hasn't been signed yet.

He is here so I am sure he is signed, just not announced yet. 

[Waffler]

By now I thought it was a well established practice to slide early or do not slide at all. Once you slide you've given up the ability to protect yourself. A penalty after the fact is never going to be good enough. We've seen this umpteen times.

[dd]

100% agree. Same as out of bounds, if there is one foot in you are good.

You guys got it backwards. If the passers FRONT foot crosses the LOS, he is deemed over the LOS and hence the illegal forward pass is called. Backfoot has nothing to do with it. Same for out of bounds. If your one foot steps out of bounds but you have one foot in bounds you're out of bounds.

[Waffler]

You guys got it backwards. If the passers FRONT foot crosses the LOS, he is deemed over the LOS and hence the illegal forward pass is called. Backfoot has nothing to do with it. Same for out of bounds. If your one foot steps out of bounds but you have one foot in bounds you're out of bounds.

I think we do agree.

Sidelines: One foot in BEFORE one out.

Passing: One foot behind line of scrimmage BEFORE one beyond.

Strev's front foot doesn't come down before the ball is out. It's legal since his only contact with the field is the back one, which is behind the line of scrimmage. What happens in the air means nothing.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

You guys got it backwards. If the passers FRONT foot crosses the LOS, he is deemed over the LOS and hence the illegal forward pass is called. Backfoot has nothing to do with it. Same for out of bounds. If your one foot steps out of bounds but you have one foot in bounds you're out of bounds.

I don't think that's the case if the thrower is airborne is it?  I believe it's the back foot that counts.   

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

He is here so I am sure he is signed, just not announced yet. 

Sounded like O'Shea wanted to evaluate him first before signing him, probably want to know where he's at mentally and if he will accept being a temporary fill in.

[TBURGESS]

Our running game won it for us. Well that and the Kramdi hit that took their QB out of the game. Gotta agree with DD and Baker. Kramdi should have been thrown out for intent to injure.

Not sure why they didn't call the hit on Strev right away. It was pretty obvious. At least they finally got it right.

Throw a player after he's out of bounds = penalty.

Beating Ottawa doesn't = middle of the pack team. It = fighting for the last playoff spot. Ottawa has only beaten Hamilton and us.

I think Strev was over the LOS twice, but he certainly wasn't 2 yards over. The angle that Tech No shows isn't very good for figuring out where the foot is. You'd have to rotate the view to make it along the line to be able to see it properly.

I think it was a forward pass, not a lateral, but I'll take that call thank you very much.

Castillo was money. Bombing them from the 50's.

Its a good thing that Strev can run, cuz his passing ain't gonna worry any team. (13/21 for 127)

Another week without a TD pass. That's 4 outta 5.

Collaros looked pissed on the sidelines. Caught on camera walking away from MOS in the second half.

Ugly wins count the same a pretty wins, and we really needed to get that Gorilla off of our back.

[theaardvark]

Was in the stands last night, and Lucky came up the stairs in the next section just before the end of the game.  Everyone was pointing.  Certainly looked like him, he headed towards the Pinnacle Club, but I didn't see him in there after the game.

[Blue In BC]

The Kramdi hit was a penalty. I didn't feel there was any intent anymore than the hit on Streveler. Suggesting either should have been disqualified is ridiculous. I doubt either results in a fine.

However Bombers still taking too many penalties, most are procedural issues that can be corrected.

I watched the game again this morning. I don't know if Collaros will be back next week. Streveler can't play many games like that before he ends up injured. He was in pain early but sucked it up and played like a warrior.

Bond got hurt but it might just have been a stinger? At least I hope he doesn't miss any games. He's been a good surprise.

[theaardvark]

The Kramdi hit was a penalty. I didn't feel there was any intent anymore than the hit on Streveler. Suggesting either should have been disqualified is ridiculous. I doubt either results in a fine.

However Bombers still taking too many penalties, most are procedural issues that can be corrected.

I watched the game again this morning. I don't know if Collaros will be back next week. Streveler can't play many games like that before he ends up injured. He was in pain early but sucked it up and played like a warrior.

Bond got hurt but it might just have been a stinger? At least I hope he doesn't miss any games. He's been a good surprise.

Kramdi was bang bang, no helmet to helmet, just an unfortunate circumstance of angles and how his head moved with the hit.  Not sure that the elbow was chicken winged out to make the hit, or as part of his slide to protect himself un falling. 

The Streveler spear was leading with the helmet, and the helmet to helmet contact led to a helmet to turf contact.  I won't say that it was a retribution for the Brown hit, but it sure looked like it was retribution for the Brown hit.  Just seems like Streveler has a different brain set up.

[dd]

The Kramdi hit was a penalty. I didn't feel there was any intent anymore than the hit on Streveler. Suggesting either should have been disqualified is ridiculous. I doubt either results in a fine.

However Bombers still taking too many penalties, most are procedural issues that can be corrected.

I watched the game again this morning. I don't know if Collaros will be back next week. Streveler can't play many games like that before he ends up injured. He was in pain early but sucked it up and played like a warrior.

Bond got hurt but it might just have been a stinger? At least I hope he doesn't miss any games. He's been a good surprise.

Look in the rule book, under targeting, forcible contact to the head by forearm is a 25 yd penalty and game misconduct penalty. Refs need to enforce the obvious especially on a player sliding giving himself up, he's totally defenseless to cheap,shots like this. The shot on streveller was even more obvious, players are sliding , they're down, there isn't any need for contact. It's like when a player takes a knee in the end zone, nobody drills him, why can't they do that for a sliding Qb. And I get it's a play in motion and a bang bang play, but when a bang bang play involves an extended forearm to the head that knocks the players helmet off that is intent to injure and that's 25 yds everyday

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Kramdi was bang bang, no helmet to helmet, just an unfortunate circumstance of angles and how his head moved with the hit.  Not sure that the elbow was chicken winged out to make the hit, or as part of his slide to protect himself un falling. 

The Streveler spear was leading with the helmet, and the helmet to helmet contact led to a helmet to turf contact.  I won't say that it was a retribution for the Brown hit, but it sure looked like it was retribution for the Brown hit.  Just seems like Streveler has a different brain set up.

Partially comes down to not wearing protective gear in the way it was designed for, ever see Strev's helmet pop off upon contact?  He'd lose it 30 times a game if he wore it as loose and comfy as Brown does.

[J5V]

Ottawa had no answer for, is it Bo carrying the ball, no wait it's Streveler bouncing it to the outside, and vice versa. Having two heavy RBs has got to be a ***** to try to defend against and I think we saw that last night. Now mix in Zach and I think you really have something there. Establish the running game with BO and Strev and have Zach throw some dimes deep and D's will be ripping their hair out! Just imagine a three pointed attack like that. Mix in some screens and flea-flickers and man, we'd be unstoppable. I hope Buck is thinking along the same lines and as we get healthy again it can only be positive.

[J5V]

Our running game won it for us. Well that and the Kramdi hit that took their QB out of the game. Gotta agree with DD and Baker. Kramdi should have been thrown out for intent to injure.

Kramdi said after the game that he likes Dru, he was a old team mate, and that he'd never try to injure him intentionally. He said the game happens so fast and that play was a bang bang play. He didn't Simoni Lawrence him and there was no spearing. Sounded pretty sincere.

Not sure why they didn't call the hit on Strev right away. It was pretty obvious. At least they finally got it right.

Strev has been abused by opposing players so many times with dirty crap and the ref never gives him the call. Strev has chewed out many refs in the past and that probably works against him. You're right, it was obvious and needs to be called. These officials seemed to have it out for us for some reason.

Collaros looked pissed on the sidelines. Caught on camera walking away from MOS in the second half.

Really? Well Zach wants to play, he's a competitor and a warrior. He wants to contribute to this team's winning and I'm glad he has that passion. We need him at 100% though and his health is too important to risk.

Winning this game the way we did with a dominant physical performance is going to do wonders for everyone's confidence. That OL was blowing people up and opening some nice holes for Strev and Brady. That's going to take a lot of heat off Zach when he comes back. Teams aren't going to be able to just go after him the way they have been or we'll shred them with this running attack. Good news all around.

[Blue In BC]

Look in the rule book, under targeting, forcible contact to the head by forearm is a 25 yd penalty and game misconduct penalty. Refs need to enforce the obvious especially on a player sliding giving himself up, he's totally defenseless to cheap,shots like this. The shot on streveller was even more obvious, players are sliding , they're down, there isn't any need for contact. It's like when a player takes a knee in the end zone, nobody drills him, why can't they do that for a sliding Qb. And I get it's a play in motion and a bang bang play, but when a bang bang play involves an extended forearm to the head that knocks the players helmet off that is intent to injure and that's 25 yds everyday

You don't know the definition of forcible contact. Penalty yes because Kramdi came in contact with Brown's head. The rest is just in your head. Again.