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Pete

Quote from: Pigskin on July 02, 2024, 04:13:12 AMI am hoping Kody Case can get into the line-up sooner then later. 5'10", 182, and has 4.44 speed, also very good hands. 
Does it seem off that we continue to bring back wrs that we cut cause we thought others are better, and when the others aren't good enough we dont look outside our organization

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 02, 2024, 11:01:18 PMI don't know why you get so hung up on roster moves prior to game day. They mean very little usually and sometimes are for entirely different reasons other than who will play or who will start.

Movement suggests who is injured and how they are accommodating that necessity. There have also been players brought back to the PR and some on 6 game IR that might be ready to return when the 6 games are up are now practising.

Depth and health on the roster have been issues. Starting receivers may change this week.  Players are being injured every game and we're trying to win.

So why wouldn't I be interested in seeing what's happening.

Collaros was listed as DNP. Is that an issue of importance to you? He may play but he also may miss this game of a couple with rib injury.

Whether Whitehead is going to join the team, when that happens and how we would use him is of interest.

I follow the team and the who, why and when's are all important.

Others are participating in the conversation. You can choose to not read posts and go have a coffee somewhere. Nobody is forcing you to respond to anything.

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J5V

O'Shea said that Holm is looking real good at practice so that's a relief.  Issue with Zach apparently is "thorax". Zach didn't practice so Strev is getting the reps. That's only going to help him as he develops some chemistry with the receivers which he said is happening. I share the concern for the O-line. The hogs have to figure it out and execute. Let's hope that happens.
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Pigskin

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Quote from: J5V on July 03, 2024, 12:56:40 AMO'Shea said that Holm is looking real good at practice so that's a relief.  Issue with Zach apparently is "thorax". Zach didn't practice so Strev is getting the reps. That's only going to help him as he develops some chemistry with the receivers which he said is happening. I share the concern for the O-line. The hogs have to figure it out and execute. Let's hope that happens.

My son was at practice today, and said Holm did not practice today. Holm and Ford both limping. The good news, Lawler was running full sprints without his wrist brace on, but was not catching passes yet.

Closed practice Wednesday, crappy.
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dd

Quote from: J5V on July 03, 2024, 12:56:40 AMO'Shea said that Holm is looking real good at practice so that's a relief.  Issue with Zach apparently is "thorax". Zach didn't practice so Strev is getting the reps. That's only going to help him as he develops some chemistry with the receivers which he said is happening. I share the concern for the O-line. The hogs have to figure it out and execute. Let's hope that happens.
If Zack is out we are dead, strev can't pass to save his soul. He's just like he was in 2019, a short yardage guy who can't reliably pass well enough to move the ball.

DM83

Ok this is the best  0-4 team in history.
Can Strev have a passing grade passing grade?
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on July 03, 2024, 03:59:47 AMIf Zack is out we are dead, strev can't pass to save his soul. He's just like he was in 2019, a short yardage guy who can't reliably pass well enough to move the ball.

I was pretty disappointed in what Strev. showed in the last game with the great opportunity given him, he looked too much like the guy that left in 2019 who at the time was nowhere near qualified to become a starting QB.  I have my fingers crossed he can do a lot more than he showed.

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Need to Know - Week 5

It is a role Chris Streveler has taken on and starred in before, both in the Canadian Football League and down south. He's more than just a stop-gap fill-in and more than simply an understudy.

...And so as the Winnipeg Blue Bombers opened up their practice week on Tuesday in advance of Friday's home date with the Ottawa RedBlacks with Zach Collaros present for half of the session but not running the offence, the club may very well summon the 29-year-old Streveler from the bullpen to help lead the squad out of the 0-4 hole it has stumbled into in the first month of the season.

"Look, as a back up you're always preparing to play so that's what I'm doing this week — preparing to play," said (Chris) Streveler after Tuesday's practice. "You try to keep your process the same no matter what. That's what gives you confidence on a week-to-week basis. Obviously if you're the guy getting reps there's more conversations about those reps that are happening with coach but at the same time your film-watching process and all those conversations within the building are staying the same...."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/07/02/need-to-know-week-5/
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 02, 2024, 11:01:18 PMI don't know why you get so hung up on roster moves prior to game day. They mean very little usually and sometimes are for entirely different reasons other than who will play or who will start.

Because for BinBC hope springs eternal?  We all want more transparency and injury info, but by now we should know we ain't gettin' it.  Good for BinBC for not being as jaded as I am!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on July 03, 2024, 03:59:47 AMIf Zack is out we are dead, strev can't pass to save his soul. He's just like he was in 2019, a short yardage guy who can't reliably pass well enough to move the ball.

I was thinking the opposite.  Our OL is clearly struggling, and it makes hero Zach look like zero Zach.  The very best thing for a struggling OL is a mobile bruiser QB.  They can't just pin the ears and always bring 1 more than we can block, like they do with Zach.

With Strev opponents have to protect much of what they do with Zach PLUS worry about the Strev scramble or Strev designed run.  They need a spy and need to worry about edge contain instead of just pass rush.

Teams saw how Strev was making lots of completions vs CGY.  He can dial it in.  Can't discount his short/mid game.

My point is, until we fix our OL problems, Strev might be more productive than Zach.  And with Strev we don't have to always have jumbo in like we did with Zach last game.  An extra receiver out never hurts.

A game vs not-so-great OTT where Strev gets #1 all week + the start would make a nice experiment.  Zach's still the guy, but why risk him when he's iffy.  And if he's just going to die behind a weak OL, why bother?  Start Strev and start airlifting OL solutions.

However, any toying with Zach sitting should seriously get considered for the 6GIR, as the SMS savings would be massively substantial.
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theaardvark

So, Streveler threw a TD pass (Collaros hasn't all year), scored 10 points in a quarter to take it to OT, and made a bad pass to get picked off.

Not an ideal showing for a starting QB, but for a backup coming off the bench, pretty darned good.

Will that change when he's had a full week with the #1's?  With Buck setting a gameplan solely for him?  I would hope so.
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LXTSN

With all the injuries we have right now, I don't expect to win many games in the next few weeks. I do think we will get hot at some point. Maybe there's a chance to make the playoffs if we do get hot at the right time...

I was also excited to see how Kody Case would fit into the lineup after seeing him in preseason, and I was sad to see him released. I'm hoping that he does get the opportunity, however, I thought Wilson and Johnson did pretty well last game when the ball was thrown their way.

Waffler

Quote from: theaardvark on July 03, 2024, 03:14:27 PMWith Buck setting a gameplan solely for him?  I would hope so.

The same Buck that ran our last remaining healthy star receiver (Demski) into the line last game? Similar to the play that hurt Grant last year. The same Buck that didn't want to put in Strev on first and goal from the 7?

Don't count on it. He strikes me as having his idea of football and it's the players that should adapt to him, not him adapting to their strengths. I predict same game plan no matter who starts.
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Blue In BC

This is pretty close to a must win game. Somebody make a play.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 03, 2024, 03:25:38 PMThis is pretty close to a must win game. Somebody make a play.

I'd say it's absolutely a must-win game. 0-5 would be a massive hole.
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