Lucky back?!

VictorRomano · July 02, 2024, 03:25:05 PM

Quote from: J5V on July 02, 2024, 01:46:32 AMFor those of us that have never suffered a knee injury, can someone that has please tell us, in their estimation, how bad a torn ACL is? Is a tear better than a complete rupture or tendon separation from the bone? I'd have to think so. Could this be career ending or is a complete recovery possible?

Having both complete (1×) and partial (2x) tears of both ACLs and MCLs through my mid-teens and early 20s, it can be real bad. Sure, you can walk on it after 4-6 months, but I was really antsy making hard cuts for the first year afterwards. Your leg just bends and flexes in ways it shouldn't when you put weight on that hard change of direction. Ultimately, after my final ACL tear (combined with a torn hamstring) I was told by Dr. Longstaff (former Bomber team doctor who I had rehabbed with before) that if I did it again, it was 50/50 that I'd spend the rest of my life walking with a cane. Wasn't willing to risk limited mobility for the rest of my life on a coin flip, so that was the end of my competitive junior football/rugby career at 22.

theaardvark · July 02, 2024, 03:42:57 PM

Didn't we have a QB that played most of a season with no ACL?

With the ACL tear being the injury that seems to both be frequent and long term, second only to achilles as season/career enders, why haven't they come out with:

a: surgery to accelerate recovery. They should have the technology to completely remove and replace an ACL with something stronger and better.

b: external bracing that prevents that motion that causes the tear. I know its not going to stop every tear, but that athletic tape that every player seems to have on them, maybe a knee wrap that mimics the tendon to take pressure off the tendon during the potential injury play. I know every brace/wrap has a limiting factor on mobility, and many won't want to wear them, but we should have better options.

Not saying any player wants to get injured, its part of the game they accept. On the other hand, they get paid the exact same whether they are on the AR, the 1 game or the 6 game.

Throw Long Bannatyne · July 02, 2024, 03:50:19 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on July 02, 2024, 03:42:57 PMDidn't we have a QB that played most of a season with no ACL?

With the ACL tear being the injury that seems to both be frequent and long term, second only to achilles as season/career enders, why haven't they come out with:

a: surgery to accelerate recovery. They should have the technology to completely remove and replace an ACL with something stronger and better.

b: external bracing that prevents that motion that causes the tear. I know its not going to stop every tear, but that athletic tape that every player seems to have on them, maybe a knee wrap that mimics the tendon to take pressure off the tendon during the potential injury play. I know every brace/wrap has a limiting factor on mobility, and many won't want to wear them, but we should have better options.

Not saying any player wants to get injured, its part of the game they accept. On the other hand, they get paid the exact same whether they are on the AR, the 1 game or the 6 game.

Robert Marve, didn't have any ACL's, didn't need em.

Pigskin · July 02, 2024, 06:33:49 PM

Nothing on the CFL or Winnipeg Blue Bombers sites indicating Lucky is a Bomber, yet?

Blue In BC · July 02, 2024, 07:10:39 PM

Quote from: Pigskin on July 02, 2024, 06:33:49 PMNothing on the CFL or Winnipeg Blue Bombers sites indicating Lucky is a Bomber, yet?

I think Lucky jumped the gun on a discussion with the Bombers. That may not have worked out to a deal.

Pigskin · July 02, 2024, 07:40:24 PM

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 02, 2024, 07:10:39 PMI think Lucky jumped the gun on a discussion with the Bombers. That may not have worked out to a deal.

Might be why Kody Case is back??

Throw Long Bannatyne · July 02, 2024, 08:14:24 PM

Quote from: Pigskin on July 02, 2024, 07:40:24 PMMight be why Kody Case is back??

Can't recall was Case cut due to injury or was he outperformed by others in TC?

Blue In BC · July 02, 2024, 08:50:48 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 02, 2024, 08:14:24 PMCan't recall was Case cut due to injury or was he outperformed by others in TC?

Injury in TC.

J5V · July 02, 2024, 09:46:02 PM

Quote from: VictorRomano on July 02, 2024, 03:25:05 PMHaving both complete (1×) and partial (2x) tears of both ACLs and MCLs through my mid-teens and early 20s, it can be real bad. Sure, you can walk on it after 4-6 months, but I was really antsy making hard cuts for the first year afterwards. Your leg just bends and flexes in ways it shouldn't when you put weight on that hard change of direction. Ultimately, after my final ACL tear (combined with a torn hamstring) I was told by Dr. Longstaff (former Bomber team doctor who I had rehabbed with before) that if I did it again, it was 50/50 that I'd spend the rest of my life walking with a cane. Wasn't willing to risk limited mobility for the rest of my life on a coin flip, so that was the end of my competitive junior football/rugby career at 22.

Thanks for sharing. A friend that I was talking to today went through something similar. He was a very good goalie but those injuries derailed his ambitions of ever playing in the NHL. I'm sure you and he both made the right decision. I wonder what Dalton is going to decide to do. Time will tell.

ichabod_crane · July 03, 2024, 12:52:34 AM

Quote from: theaardvark on July 02, 2024, 03:42:57 PMDidn't we have a QB that played most of a season with no ACL?

Reggie Slack? I think he was on one leg with the Riders or someone else one year taking them to a loss in the GC.

ichabod_crane · July 03, 2024, 12:55:14 AM

FREE WILLY! Or maybe TJ Rubley the "saviour"!

What a farce that turned out to be with Reinbold. Like a comedy act!

They did not need any ACL injuries to be pretty horrible!

ModAdmin · July 03, 2024, 04:33:47 AM

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"Finalizing some details." REC Lucky Whitehead should be with the Blue #Bombers soon, what's with the ground game, and Kenny Lawler sheds the cast.

TecnoGenius · July 03, 2024, 08:11:48 AM

Quote from: J5V on July 02, 2024, 09:46:02 PMI'm sure you and he both made the right decision. I wonder what Dalton is going to decide to do. Time will tell.

Top WR, super highly paid, first big injury... ya, there's no question what he's going to do! You rehab and keep going!

Now, after multiple knee problems... then you start asking yourself questions like that.

TecnoGenius · July 03, 2024, 08:14:14 AM

Quote from: ModAdmin on July 03, 2024, 04:33:47 AM"Finalizing some details." REC Lucky Whitehead should be with the Blue #Bombers soon, what's with the ground game, and Kenny Lawler sheds the cast.

Not worried at all. Lucky trying to squeeze every dime he can out of desperate KW, probably on the "extras" like housing, etc.

And we're probably trying to do what I said: minimize the bonus (ideally $0). Lucky is injury-prone and we can't lose any more non-recoverable SMS space. Give him crazy incentive-heavy contract and be done with it! $2k a TD! $2 every 100+ yard game. Etc.

Throw Long Bannatyne · July 03, 2024, 05:04:02 PM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 03, 2024, 08:14:14 AMNot worried at all. Lucky trying to squeeze every dime he can out of desperate KW, probably on the "extras" like housing, etc.

And we're probably trying to do what I said: minimize the bonus (ideally $0). Lucky is injury-prone and we can't lose any more non-recoverable SMS space. Give him crazy incentive-heavy contract and be done with it! $2k a TD! $2 every 100+ yard game. Etc.

In his media time yesterday O'Shea didn't sound all that sold on bringing Lucky in, wanted to evaluate his readiness first so maybe it's not a done deal. Could bring him in for a looksee and release him shortly afterward.