The Good the Bad and the Ugly

dd · June 30, 2024, 03:51:14 PM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 30, 2024, 03:30:34 AMHasn't been up yet this season. Because it's all BAD & UGLY so far??

No doubt!!

markf · June 30, 2024, 04:59:13 PM

A question... Is our only run play up the middle? That's what it looks like to me. Seems very predictable.

And....What chance have new receivers had?

Not much...

Maybe a bit more patience with young receivers needs to be shown.

Other positions are not dealt with this way.... Example...Brady was not great at first, but was given time.

Zach..... was thought to be finished when he first got here. Maybe he can bounce back.

Problem is this o line is not as good. He does not seem to thrive under pressure.

My hunch is he will not bounce back.

Was the hit took him out a spear? Should that have been a penalty?

I don't think Lucky will add much.

Blue In BC · June 30, 2024, 06:15:15 PM

I mentioned before the game that our 1st offensive play would be a run straight up the gut. If I knew that, don't we think the Stamps had that idea as well?

We're overly predictable. Just like knowing that before Collaros was out of the game, there was no expectation for Streveler to throw a pass.

Pigskin · June 30, 2024, 06:19:58 PM

Not sure Lucky is our #1 need at this time. I would like to see us bring in a DE that can get to the QB and take some pressure off of Willy.

OL: Lofton and Dobson. The Bombers have only given up 2 sacks in the last two games, but ZC8 is under pressure all night. Is it Lofton, Dobson, or both.

Blue In BC · June 30, 2024, 06:27:48 PM

Quote from: Pigskin on June 30, 2024, 06:19:58 PMNot sure Lucky is our #1 need at this time. I would like to see us bring in a DE that can get to the QB and take some pressure off of Willy.

OL: Lofton and Dobson. The Bombers have only given up 2 sacks in the last two games, but ZC8 is under pressure all night. Is it Lofton, Dobson, or both.

I'm not sure but Collaros is taking too long to make a pass. IMO that's more on Buck and his play calling. Saw the same thing when Streveler was in at QB. 2nd and 4 and we throw a deep pass to the back or near back of the end zone.

We only made 11 pass attempts to Johnson, O. Wilson and Clercius in total with 6 receptions. OTOH, Demski had 10 thrown his way. One near int and one int to close the game.

How many of Oliveria's runs were A gap?

Throw Long Bannatyne · June 30, 2024, 07:08:11 PM

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 06:27:48 PMI'm not sure but Collaros is taking too long to make a pass. IMO that's more on Buck and his play calling. Saw the same thing when Streveler was in at QB. 2nd and 4 and we throw a deep pass to the back or near back of the end zone.

We only made 11 pass attempts to Johnson, O. Wilson and Clercius in total with 6 receptions. OTOH, Demski had 10 thrown his way. One near int and one int to close the game.

How many of Oliveria's runs were A gap?

Zach trying to prove he can play 3 receivers short, he doesn't even glance in the direction of any of the new receivers. Ideally the QB is a vessel for distributing the football wherever it needs to go, Zach has significant blind spots and maybe not enough confidence to overcome them. He lost 8 or 10 games in a row before he lost the Ti-Cat job, wonder if he's in the same funky space now he was in then.

Blue In BC · June 30, 2024, 08:30:09 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 30, 2024, 07:08:11 PMZach trying to prove he can play 3 receivers short, he doesn't even glance in the direction of any of the new receivers. Ideally the QB is a vessel for distributing the football wherever it needs to go, Zach has significant blind spots and maybe not enough confidence to overcome them. He lost 8 or 10 games in a row before he lost the Ti-Cat job, wonder if he's in the same funky space now he was in then.

We don't know what the play calling is dictating. Are the rookies running the correct routes in the time our QB's have to decide whether to throw?

Pete · July 01, 2024, 01:07:26 AM

I don't know if its the play call whenever we get near the endzone, but calling a deep pass to the right corner is the most predictable play we do. Considering you have to throw the ball 20 extra yards makes no sense as a go to play.
Like I say I don't know what the other options to that play are, but crossing plays with a "pick" would be more effective likely.

TecnoGenius · July 01, 2024, 02:23:22 AM

Quote from: Jesse on June 30, 2024, 02:33:52 PMThe Good:
- A passing TD

It's a miracle!! One passing TD by the Bombers since before the 2023 GC! Woot! Zach is back baby! Oh... wait... who threw it again? Drat. I'll see myself out.

(Even the worst QBs on the worst CFL teams throw a TD nearly every game...)

TecnoGenius · July 01, 2024, 02:25:04 AM

Quote from: Pigskin on June 30, 2024, 06:19:58 PMOL: Lofton and Dobson. The Bombers have only given up 2 sacks in the last two games, but ZC8 is under pressure all night. Is it Lofton, Dobson, or both.

I'm eyeing Ko-man more and more. And they are still getting fooled by the stunts. And now everyone just running around Lofton... Dobson has actually been decent compared to Gray.

I'll be rewatching the CGY game with an eye on the OL again soon. Then I'll give you specifics. Oh ya, 5 IP calls don't help either. Never seen anything so ridiculous.

DM83 · July 03, 2024, 03:54:45 PM

What is an IP call?

theaardvark · July 03, 2024, 04:24:27 PM

Saw the photo of the "no end" call play, they had 6 on the oline, and one wide out. Definitely not a "no end" call. Eye in the sky should have caught that.

LXTSN · July 03, 2024, 04:37:00 PM

Quote from: DM83 on July 03, 2024, 03:54:45 PMWhat is an IP call?

Illegal procedure I'd assume

dd · July 03, 2024, 04:38:21 PM

I think what happened is Wallace didn't report to the ref and umpire that he was reporting in as an eligible receiver when he came on the field. He was #61 and that's an ineligible number by rule so he has to check in declaring he is an eligible receiver and the umpire lets the defense know this. This didn't happen, bombers don't have an eligible player on Wallace's end and boom there's the call. It's a ticky tack call but players in youth league do this so why a professional football player doesn't do this is beyond me. You could tell by the stunned look on Wallace's face that he didn't know he had to report. Unbelievablely poor coaching, you always make sure the guy knows he has to report I hear it from the benches all the timed when they re sending a guy in, the bombers can't do?this?!?!

LXTSN · July 03, 2024, 04:39:08 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on July 03, 2024, 04:24:27 PMSaw the photo of the "no end" call play, they had 6 on the oline, and one wide out. Definitely not a "no end" call. Eye in the sky should have caught that.

I believe Wallace would have to report as eligible. I would assume not reporting was a rookie mistake that won't happen again after negating that first down!