Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Calgary - June 29, 2024

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kkc60

Weird to dress two extra HBs as DAs but no receivers. With how that position has been dropping, one would think they'd play it safe. Murphy effectively is viewed as a better receiver than Mitchell it appears, as no need to go with an extra canadian there otherwise

Pigskin

Nichols, back in that is very  good for our D. Murphy had a good week at practice, glad to see the kid getting the start. DL the same as last week. Time to get some pressure. 
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Blue In BC

Quote from: gobombersgo on June 28, 2024, 08:43:38 PMGriffith was on the roster last week. Bridges came off now that Nichols is back.



Yes, Griffith was on the roster last week and was on the field when the team went with 3 dlinemen. Karamoko had zero snaps on defence.

Bridges is still on the roster but now as a back up.

I missed Bridges still on the roster. I guess they wanted more depth on defence considering few options on offence.

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Blue In BC

Quote from: kkc60 on June 28, 2024, 08:52:02 PMWeird to dress two extra HBs as DAs but no receivers. With how that position has been dropping, one would think they'd play it safe. Murphy effectively is viewed as a better receiver than Mitchell it appears, as no need to go with an extra canadian there otherwise

 I thought Alston would be higher among the import choices. He will have had a few more reps by next week and we'll see if Murphy makes an impression. Even so, Alston could be added in if we drop one of the extra import DB's.

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Blueforlife

I have been on here for a long time this might be a record for me, mega multiple response warning lol

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 28, 2024, 04:08:16 PMBring back Lucky Whitehead
Hard pass

Quote from: BBRT on June 28, 2024, 06:43:10 PMWho are these people?? seriously looks like a lineup for a preseason game.
Overstated on the negative imo

Quote from: Jesse on June 28, 2024, 04:58:14 PMI hate to say it, but just an absolute failure of scouting to not have capable receivers on hand.

We're also in the position where our only DE is a 2024 draft pick. I'm at a lose at how we got here.
Calling the scouts a failure this early is premature.  Saying we don't have capable receivers before letting them play isn't fair.  Wheatfall looked good in one game and has promise, for the rest we shall see.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 28, 2024, 04:33:06 PMWeineke, Evans, and Whitehead could be worth a look.

Probably pass on the rest, though.
Pass on the other two imo, I don't know Evans tell me more
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 28, 2024, 04:30:49 PMThe point is a CFL veteran receiver would be a valuable addition right now for temporary assistance, they have plenty of inexperienced rookies that will grow with the opportunity but will contribute much less ability towards winning games.  Lesser names than Walker in terms of current ability and motivation, Brescacin, Ellingson, Wieneke, Shaq Evans, Cam Phillips, Whitehead, take your pick.
Tell me more about Phillips, not sold on rest.  I know Evans and Phillips by name but can't recall their game.  I would prefer to develop receivers, not sign washed ups.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 28, 2024, 04:24:58 PMNot thrilled with this line up.  3 rookie receivers starting.
Double edged sword.  We find out what we got / develop.  Likely will be a struggle but pay off down the road imo.
Quote from: peg_city on June 28, 2024, 03:32:44 PMWoooooow, that's a skeleton crew at receiver.


To look on the positive side, we'll have more funds to spend on NFL cuts.
Forgot about that, maybe we can find a diamond in the rough

bwiser

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 28, 2024, 04:08:16 PMBring back Lucky Whitehead
I wouldn't mind bringing him back at least until Lawler and Shoen are healthy. He would be better than Murphy who I am sure is a nice kid but zero CFL catches. Whitehead is not a long term solution but the Bombers are a mess at receiver right now.

Blueforlife

Quote from: bwiser on June 28, 2024, 10:08:20 PMI wouldn't mind bringing him back at least until Lawler and Shoen are healthy. He would be better than Murphy who I am sure is a nice kid but zero CFL catches. Whitehead is not a long term solution but the Bombers are a mess at receiver right now.
I would suggest you give Murphy a few games before coming to any conclusions.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 28, 2024, 10:54:39 PMI would suggest you give Murphy a few games before coming to any conclusions.

Developing players for later is great, but it's not going to help this year's edition if they miss the playoffs.  Chris Jones has been in development mode for 3 years now and it hasn't put him any closer to making the playoffs.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 28, 2024, 11:35:24 PMDeveloping players for later is great, but it's not going to help this year's edition if they miss the playoffs.  Chris Jones has been in development mode for 3 years now and it hasn't put him any closer to making the playoffs.
We are not anything like Jones in any way shape or form.  I am happy to develop and see what we have.  That doesn't pan out, bring a body in mid season.

pdirks67

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 28, 2024, 11:35:24 PMDeveloping players for later is great, but it's not going to help this year's edition if they miss the playoffs.  Chris Jones has been in development mode for 3 years now and it hasn't put him any closer to making the playoffs.

I get your point, but we are an awful long way from Chris Jones territory.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 28, 2024, 03:11:32 PMFor those of you who don't get the depth chart mailed by Canada Post it can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1012482866891712&set=a.790927029047298

I keep trying to get them to send my chart by Xpresspost, but they keep sending it regular parcel.  Takes forever!   ;D  ;D  ;D

Joking aside, though, once again we are the only CFL team of the week to not post their depth chart on their team web site roster page at the proper time.  We are literally not doing what every other team does, and has done for years.  I really don't understand why it's so difficult.  I'm starting to think they do it on purpose.

But I will point out how gobombersgo now posts the charts (including the "good" one) at the top of the thread list in a pinned/locked thread, and in a very timely manner.  This really helps me a lot and I am very thankful.  We asked, they listened.  Thanks gobombersgo!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: peg_city on June 28, 2024, 03:32:44 PMTo look on the positive side, we'll have more funds to spend on NFL cuts.

Keep dreaming.  The chances of us picking up an NFL cut who already isn't known to the team or CFL is basically zero.  It's something we just don't do.  Plus, zero money left... whoever it is would have to be ELC only.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 28, 2024, 11:43:48 PMWe are not anything like Jones in any way shape or form.  I am happy to develop and see what we have.  That doesn't pan out, bring a body in mid season.

The point is maybe we should be.  Just this once, for this bad situation we're in.  Do the "season is a big tryouts" trick.  Find our version of D.Mitchell, which we so desperately need right now (and for 2025 too).

I don't mind giving extended (3-4 game) looks to the "guys we have", but when we exhaust our supply, or show no sparkle after 3-4 games, then bring in more!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pigskin on June 28, 2024, 09:14:03 PMNichols, back in that is very  good for our D.

Nichols back is huge.  But now I sit and wonder why we held him out last week?  My take on his injury was he had his bell rung.  Most teams will just rush those guys back in if they aren't badly concussed, and if they are, they are out for several weeks.

We did neither.  It's weird.  I bet we could have started him, but didn't.  That may have been the difference between winning and losing vs BC.  How many of those deep torches right in Nichol's lane might we have stopped?
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on June 28, 2024, 04:06:59 PMPretty sure there are reasons why vet CFL receivers are not on rosters, and it's not $SMS concerns.

It's always SMS concerns.  A ton of vets can (still) outperform an ELC, but they are cut because it's not an equation that just has "performance" in it.  The equation is always cost divided by performance.  Always.  And add in a third variable: hope.  The ELCs will give you the hope they are the next Schoen.  The vets are known quantities.  (Well, and the fourth variable: availability, which ELCs usually win by being young and uninjured.)

Moreso, the better the vet is, the more likely he is to be cut because he has set the tone that he's has to be highly paid.  Think Jeffcoat and D.Walker.  No one will ever call them offering $90k.

Quote from: theaardvark on June 28, 2024, 04:06:59 PMWalker was moved on from for a reason.  Next you'll be suggesting Duron Carter.  Maybe Milt Stegall? (Hey, did he jinx us by coming to camp?)

Straw man.  No one is suggesting Clown Carter or anyone out of the league more than 1 whole season (the same reason I poopooed the D.Adams suggestion).

I've put up a pretty nice list of decent vets, and others have too, that if money was no object we'd love to have hired to take Bailey's place in FA.  It all boils down to money.

We don't need a franchise long-term guy right now: we need a pure mercenary.  And we shouldn't care about injury history: give the guy a big salary with no bonus and then who cares if he gets hurt.  Then if he sucks too, cut him (a la A.Bowman).
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