S. Lemon

Started by Blue In BC, June 19, 2024, 10:08:14 PM

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Blue In BC

Lemon could end up playing 5 or 6 games before a resolution is found. I'm fine with a lifetime suspension if he's found guilty of the gambling charge.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: Road Griller on June 20, 2024, 04:50:20 PMLet's talk absolutes.  Montreal absolutely won.  Lemon absolutely had a great game.  He absolutely outplayed Jefferson.

Our Dline was absolutely gassed at the end and could not get pressure.

You absolutely missed the punchline.
If we had Lemon I doubt it would have impacted the outcome imo.

Road Griller

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 20, 2024, 10:41:45 PMIf we had Lemon I doubt it would have impacted the outcome imo.

You don't know that either but it would have made them weaker and us stronger.  Our line was gassed, he also raised havoc on our line all game.

Outplayed Willie by a mile.  Would have been a great rotational pick up. 

Hopefully they learned their lesson and are open to mid season pick ups in areas of need.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Road Griller on June 20, 2024, 11:13:11 PMYou don't know that either but it would have made them weaker and us stronger.  Our line was gassed, he also raised havoc on our line all game.

Outplayed Willie by a mile.  Would have been a great rotational pick up. 

Hopefully they learned their lesson and are open to mid season pick ups in areas of need.
Over selling the Lemon impact imo.  I prefer to develop not sign old vets.  Key reason why our dynasty run happened.

But you have all the answers thus far this season.

Jesse

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 20, 2024, 11:44:27 PMOver selling the Lemon impact imo.  I prefer to develop not sign old vets.  Key reason why our dynasty run happened.

But you have all the answers thus far this season.

Sorry bud, that's just not true.

Most of our best players were signed in FA from other teams. There is a significant change from how this team was run and is currently run, both from the front office side and the coaching side. We don't have to ignore it in order to be supporters of the team.
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Blueforlife

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Quote from: Jesse on June 21, 2024, 11:05:45 AMSorry bud, that's just not true.

Most of our best players were signed in FA from other teams. There is a significant change from how this team was run and is currently run, both from the front office side and the coaching side. We don't have to ignore it in order to be supporters of the team.
I think our development of players has played a key role.  Yes one of the key factors was management and coaching changes.  For sure we brought in some talent no doubt about that.  Zach, Harris, Demski and the parts of the oline are good examples.  To clarify my point I have seen this organization be patient with next man up, strong drafting and being patient with our lineup.  We have not made that many big splashes in free agency especially for our depth players.  This has been the way be build our defense every year.  We also did this with receiver.  We wouldn't overpay for free agents allowing our club to retain vets.  I agree with some of what you said but I stand by my position and hope this have cleaned it up.  I trust that our PR and bringing back TC cuts will fill holes but if our IR grows, signing a few key players might be needed.

Signing Kenny was a nice move.

One point I wanted to make was we generally don't sign aging free agents.  We have filled those gaps with younger players.

Road Griller

Quote from: Jesse on June 21, 2024, 11:05:45 AMSorry bud, that's just not true.

Most of our best players were signed in FA from other teams. There is a significant change from how this team was run and is currently run, both from the front office side and the coaching side. We don't have to ignore it in order to be supporters of the team.

Harris,Bryant (can't remember if it was a trade) , Willie, Biggie, Randle, Medlock even Dressler was a big part of the culture shift.

This is the CFL, you don't rebuild.  You reload.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 21, 2024, 12:27:35 PMI think our development of players has played a key role.  Yes one of the key factors was management and coaching changes.  For sure we brought in some talent no doubt about that.  Zach, Harris, Demski and the parts of the oline are good examples.  To clarify my point I have seen this organization be patient with next man up, strong drafting and being patient with our lineup.  We have not made that many big splashes in free agency especially for our depth players.  This has been the way be build our defense every year.  We also did this with receiver.  We wouldn't overpay for free agents allowing our club to retain vets.  I agree with some of what you said but I stand by my position and hope this have cleaned it up.  I trust that our PR and bringing back TC cuts will fill holes but if our IR grows, signing a few key players might be needed.

Signing Kenny was a nice move.

One point I wanted to make was we generally don't sign aging free agents.  We have filled those gaps with younger players.

Re-signing Lawler was a terrible move when they already had Schoen in house playing on an ELC, Lawler's spot could have been filled by almost anybody.  He's entering Nick Moore territory in terms of reliability and he gives Zach the misplaced confidence that throwing long passes into bad locations is a solid plan as long as Kenny is around the ball, which is the epitome of dumb football.

blue_gold_84

Comparing Lawler to Nick Moore...?

Good gravy, what's happening on this forum.
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What a wretched timeline.

Jesse

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 21, 2024, 04:25:12 PMComparing Lawler to Nick Moore...?

Good gravy, what's happening on this forum.

In terms of reliability. Don't manipulate the comment into something it's not.

Lawler has not been able to put a full season together.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Jesse on June 21, 2024, 05:41:15 PMIn terms of reliability. Don't manipulate the comment into something it's not.

Lawler has not been able to put a full season together.

Seriously, man?

I think it's a poor comparison. Lawler is considerably more reliable and productive than Moore ever was.
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What a wretched timeline.

Road Griller

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 20, 2024, 11:44:27 PMOver selling the Lemon impact imo.  I prefer to develop not sign old vets.  Key reason why our dynasty run happened.

But you have all the answers thus far this season.

Must have missed the dynasty run...?  Four good seasons with back to back losses to underdogs in the final a dynasty does not make.

Last cup win was '21.  A long time ago, I remember we were wearing masks in the stands way back then.  Interesting times.

Let's see what they have tonight, from the penthouse to the outhouse or a season turning dominating game at home?

Time for them to show us who they are in a must win game.  Go Blue!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 21, 2024, 05:48:07 PMSeriously, man?

I think it's a poor comparison. Lawler is considerably more reliable and productive than Moore ever was.

Not so far fetched, Nick Moore was an elite receiver when he signed with the Bombers for $170k in 2014 when they had no other big name receivers on the roster and attracting players to Wpg. was difficult.  Unfortunately he was plagued with some weak QB's and spent a lot of time on the IR in his tenure in Wpg.  Since receiving the large bump in salary from Jones, Lawler has yet to play close to a full season and has not yet matched his pre-bonanza production.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 21, 2024, 04:25:12 PMComparing Lawler to Nick Moore...?

Good gravy, what's happening on this forum.

Lawler = Nick was my original comparison.  Look at pictures of them, they are basically the same body.  Same lanky frame, thin bones (compared to say, Cottoy), thus easily injured.

They also make the same kind of plays and are used in much the same way.

Yes, Kenny's stats are much better than Nick's ever were... and Kenny's best circus plays are better than Nick's.  So to be totally accurate we can call Kenny the "new & improved" Nick Moore.

P.S. Nick was making sick plays and big stats when he was still in his prime in BC.  Go back and check, especially on a per-game basis to eliminate the injury stat reductions.  We all better pray that Kenny's game doesn't fall off as quickly as Nick's did when he started getting older... especially while we're paying him ~$300k.
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If you blurred the faces and obfuscated the jersey and number, no one would be able to tell the difference.

Nick 6'2 195
Kenny 6'2 199

It's basically the same dude.
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