We Are League Worst (officially)

Started by TecnoGenius, June 18, 2024, 08:06:51 AM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 23, 2024, 07:25:52 PMBC was 1st down on the 1 at the end of the game. If we add 7 points to our defensive stats or 2.3 points/game to the 25.3 we end up at 27.6 per game or second worst in the west behind Edm.

Yes, BC easily could have had 7 more.  And I think MTL probably could have scored more.  So our D isn't as good as the numbers.  But it is doing ok.

BUT... there is one other aspect: the fact our O is putting up such puny points means that opponent O's can play conservative.  They only need to be one point ahead at the end, and most opponents will feel quite happy just being up 1 score against us.

Look at the EDM/TOR game to see how an O racking up points forces the other O to go into high-scoring mode.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on June 23, 2024, 08:33:33 PMor do we play an odd number of games against them this season so points for and against don't matter??

Yes, we play BC 3 times.  Lucky us.

Week 9 in WPG
bye
Week 11 in BC
Never go full Rider!

DM83

 ;) techno how more kool aide?
The Bombers honestly suck in every area
Maybe Stanley Bryant wins the one on one battles.
Most of the rest othe positional battles are not being won by Bombers.
They are pathetic, and non competitive.

DM83

DDI literally said what you were saying. :

dd

Oh, really? I thought you said the bombers are pathetic  and are non competitive? I said the ti cats were. That game vs the riders was tough to watch. BLM should have hung em up last year but I guess collecting a $520k pay cheque will stop you from doing that. He really is a bad Qb

DM83

Oh sorry, I was referring to your last post. Oh,  ok I promise I will not agree anymore with anything you say. Bye!

TecnoGenius

I think we should drop O.Wilson.  I rewatched some of the previous games and he was sucking bad.  Worse: I think he's a bad fit.  He has a defeatist and downbeat attitude on the field.  Especially in the OTT game.  He looks like he's thinking: Zach overthrew it by 10 inches so I can't catch it.  Then he mopes around with his head down.  He's jogging instead of going all-out.  He makes zero contested catches.  He had two chances to really help us win the OTT game and he basically didn't try.

He's like the anti-Woli: the complete opposite player.  He's not what we need.

Ya, we are beggars and we certainly can't be choosers, but I think we should rapidly ditch any guys that aren't the answer now while we're going to lose all the games anyhow.  Gives guys that might be a better fit a look.  Like Clercius and Murphy, Alston and Johnson.

Sorry it's harsh, but we have to be Chris Jones-like right now.  Mercy and pity and clinging isn't going to get us back into the W column.  Try 'em out for 3 games then spit 'em out.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Still the worst.  Every week we put up less points than sad-sack no-wins EDM.  Another 3 points down on EDM this week in points-for.  3 of 4 weeks we can't break 20, even given OT!  Yikes.

And I'll say it first, unless Kenny is magically back and Zach's 100% and a piece or 2 come back on O or D, we are losing vs OTT at home in 1 week.

After OTT and another CGY, our schedule starts to get REAL BRUTAL.  Top teams will steamroll us.  Now we have to start considering if we will have any chance to make the playoffs.  We'll probably need 6-8 wins come week 21 to make them.  That would mean in another 7-8 weeks (after maybe winning 0 or 1 game) we have to start winning every game.

Doable, but only if everyone gets healthy and Zach figures out what's wrong with his brain and vision.
Never go full Rider!

dd

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 30, 2024, 03:19:45 AMStill the worst.  Every week we put up less points than sad-sack no-wins EDM.  Another 3 points down on EDM this week in points-for.  3 of 4 weeks we can't break 20, even given OT!  Yikes.

And I'll say it first, unless Kenny is magically back and Zach's 100% and a piece or 2 come back on O or D, we are losing vs OTT at home in 1 week.

After OTT and another CGY, our schedule starts to get REAL BRUTAL.  Top teams will steamroll us.  Now we have to start considering if we will have any chance to make the playoffs.  We'll probably need 6-8 wins come week 21 to make them.  That would mean in another 7-8 weeks (after maybe winning 0 or 1 game) we have to start winning every game.

Doable, but only if everyone gets healthy and Zach figures out what's wrong with his brain and vision.
That's what I've been trying to tell you, scoring 40 points with this lineup is a pipe dream. We're very lucky if we break the 25 point barrier, 40 points is just so so far away it's not even worth going there

gordo

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 30, 2024, 03:19:45 AMAnd I'll say it first, unless Kenny is magically back and Zach's 100% and a piece or 2 come back on O or D, we are losing vs OTT at home in 1 week.


Kenny won't be back and Zach may not be 100% but we ain't losing to Ottawa. We still have many good pieces including a healthy Olivera now who will run wild on Ottawa.  Strevler can actually throw.  We'll be fine.  And will win.

Waffler

14 games left, realistically we need to go 9 - 5 to make the playoffs.

There is still hope but we have to get healthy in a hurry, that hill is looking mighty steep.
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Jesse

Quote from: Waffler on June 30, 2024, 10:24:41 PM14 games left, realistically we need to go 9 - 5 to make the playoffs.

There is still hope but we have to get healthy in a hurry, that hill is looking mighty steep.

Last year, Calgary was 6-12 and Hamilton was 8-10 but we "realistically have to be 9-9?
My wife is amazing!

Waffler

#102
.500 is usually a safe number in the west but not always.

In 2023 Wpg and BC got 26 wins between us with Cal, Sask and Edm just 16 between them. 6 - 12 got third. A crossover would have needed 9 wins last year.

In 2022 the third place team (Cal) was 12 - 6 with no crossover team that year.

I figure this year to be somewhere in the middle but you never know.
Buried in the essentially random digits of pi, you can find your eight-digit birthdate. (Is that a wink from God or just a lot of digits?) - David G. Myers
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gordo

Quote from: Jesse on June 30, 2024, 10:45:43 PMLast year, Calgary was 6-12 and Hamilton was 8-10 but we "realistically have to be 9-9?
Great point.  I see us limping into the playoffs.  Maybe crawling.  On our belly. In a ditch. In the rain. But finishing 9-9. Or better.

Then with key guys back, dominating in the playoffs.  There's more than one way to win the cup. And Strevler probably still has the fur coat. The plan is clear.

Pete

#104
It seems as though our offensive play calling has regressed. This may be due to lack of confidence in new players but it's hurting us.
We don't use screens, throws to the flats, or end sweeps (jJohnson is quick), we seldom use Streveler in 2nd and short other to dive ahead. Ollivera seems limited to off tackle runs. Last year we also ran more 6 olinemen pkgs to give Zac more time, seeing the injuries we have at receiver anyway makes this more attractive.
Our most creative play was a poor snap to Sheehan who turned it into an 18 yard play.
When you add this to a propensity to only throw to our vets with Zac its no wonder we aren't effective
Every team we've played knows to stack the middle and play run/blitz packages