Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Ottawa - June 13, 2024

[Pigskin]

5 - 4  - 3 -  2 -      Take a hint.   

Thank you.

[Big Daddy]

You can come out as pissed off as you want. Doesn't matter if Collaros can't get a clean pocket. Hopefully they get their act together. But after last week all the teams leaders talked the talk. Those same guys did diddly squat this week.

I agree, Zach had way less time and protection today and last week, and it's a huge factor.

[kkc60]

I agree, Zach had way less time and protection today and last week, and it's a huge factor.

Oh it's bad. And what's worse about it is that all offseason left guard and right tackle were holes. They brought in guys, coaches and scouts did their due diligence. And a regression was a reasonable expectation early on. But this is much worse than what the product should be considering the time the team has had to plan and assess players.

[Big Daddy]

Oh it's bad. And what's worse about it is that all offseason left guard and right tackle were holes. They brought in guys, coaches and scouts did their due diligence. And a regression was a reasonable expectation early on. But this is much worse than what the product should be considering the time the team has had to plan and assess players.

I was going to simply "like" your post, but it seemed wrong to like it even though I agree completely. 

[Pigskin]

Okay, so we lost 3 starters on D before half time.

We have no KR/PR games.

ZC8 throws two picks.

We only run the ball 14 times and a number of those were short yardage.

We still end up with the ball on Ottawa's 7 yard line with a minute left in the game, and can't score to win the game.

Terrible play calling by Buck.

[Big Daddy]

Okay, so we lost 3 starters on D before half time.

We have no KR/PR games.

ZC8 throws two picks.

We only run the ball 14 times and a number of those were short yardage.

We still end up with the ball on Ottawa's 7 yard line with a minute left in the game, and can't score to win the game.

Terrible play calling by Buck.

Nice perspective.  Thanks for stepping back and providing a more objective view

[TecnoGenius]

Nice perspective.  Thanks for stepping back and providing a more objective view

But it shouldn't have been close!  It shouldn't have come down to 1st & goal at the 7.

It was Dru Brown in his first real CFL start!!  It was a perennially stinky OTT team that should (probably) still be the free bingo spot!  We should have been wiping the floor with them, from an O standpoint, before the rain delay.

Dru & the OTT O wasn't doing anything special.  Just chugging along.  Their D had issues, yet we made their DL look like all-stars!

Losing D starters doesn't impact our O at all.  No excuse there.  In fact, our O should have stepped up and owned the TOP because our D was doomed to getting gassed!  Yet in the 4th we go to a pass-heavy O plan??  Ya, that low TOP, many 2-n-out plan sure helped the D.

[Stats Junkie]

Game stats

Game 14 - WBB @ OTT

[TecnoGenius]

We haven't been able to have Zach pass into the EZ for a TD in 7.95 quarters.  And we've been weak on the short pass.  So why are we calling 3 short passes from the 7 to win the game?!  It was magically going to resolve itself right there for the win??  Who thinks this stuff up?

And did we try something novel and creative on those 3 pass attempts?  Nah, just same-old level-1 rookie-QB routes and schemes.

D1: An overthrow to your raw rookie 1st-CFL-game nobody in man coverage to try to win it?  Who does that?  It's his first game!  And you don't even put it in a place he can dive for it.  And that corner fade is like one of our four main go-to red zone plays, so every team knows it.

D2: A timing out with bad timing and double coverage?  Nothing creative about that.  That's the same play that lost HAM the '21 GC when Nichols tipped it from Acklin.

D3: A pathetic shambles of an ending just like the '23 GC.  No hope at all, nothing remotely open, nothing creative, nothing new, and minimal pass rush gets in for an easy sack with Zach running right into it.  The R's can't even get their pre-snap positions correct as the field side guys are pointing and questioning and moving around pre-snap.

You have 60 minutes to script the drive and the denouement and this is all they come up with?!  Why not put some faith in Johnny?  Why not do what made us famous?  Just pound that ball.  Or at least do some RPO!  Anything to try to trick the D!

And why is Zach now the king of running into sackers?  That used to be Cody in SSK.  Now, in so many critical games, Zach just runs into the tacklers and lets them pull him down.  Why does he never back-pedal anymore?  Why not wheel out?  Always now it's just run straight forward or into a deep-in DE?

In all 3 downs we would have been better served by Strevie because he at least puts in the run threat, and is hard to bring down.  Strevie can throw those failed fades and 7 yard outs just as well as Zach.  Even better, OTT likely pulls pass defenders to play the run when Strevie is in, because he's a known runner.  Put Strevie in and run 3 RPOs, with Strevie making the decisions.

Oh ya, that 2nd last pass to Wilson who whiffed should have been a UR and a free 15.  The defender shoulder-to-heads Wilson 1.5s after the ball had sailed past, and the D guy clearly saw the ball as it was right in front of his eyes.  It was a head shot that did not need to be taken.  Probably doesn't change the outcome though.  It's actually a bit comical as Wilson may have turtled up to avoid the hit, and he still gets his head popped as a whiff reward.

[TecnoGenius]

Our D has not been the problem and BC absolutely has a leaky D.

Our D gave up 129 on the ground (and OTT didn't get "garbage time" to run up that yardage!).  21 runs with 6.1 avg.  6.1 avg!!  From a rookie nobody RB that was a GTD!  On a team not known for running, and a 4 NAT OL!

Our D was ok in week 1 vs the GC champs, but, yes, they were much stinkier this week against this sub-par opponent.

[BomberFan73]

1st & goal on their 7, 1 min left
and we pass 3 times?   

[Bomber Diehard]

Our OL was terrible, no time for Zach at all.
The Bombers are getting too old in many locations and it is starting to show in both sides of the ball.

[Waffler]

7 yards and WPG doesn't run it 3 times?  That's our M.O.

We needed to kill 50s too!

Who called these trash plays?

Even my girl friend said "it's Streveller time!" I thought situations like this is why we have him. 3 down football and 7 yards needed. 

Even so the o-line is a pretty far cry from what it was, when we would push piles. Maybe this year's team can't run it in either.

[BomberFan73]

Even my girl friend said "it's Streveller time!" I thought situations like this is why we have him. 3 down football and 7 yards needed. 

Even so the o-line is a pretty far cry from what it was, when we would push piles. Maybe this year's team can't run it in either.

If we are going to pass, at least have Strev in there, you know everyone will be thinking RUN

[Jesse]

Oh it's bad. And what's worse about it is that all offseason left guard and right tackle were holes. They brought in guys, coaches and scouts did their due diligence. And a regression was a reasonable expectation early on. But this is much worse than what the product should be considering the time the team has had to plan and assess players.

And what's worse about that is that there was never a competition. Dobson and Lofton lined up in their spots on day one and that was it.