Other teams' final cuts

theaardvark · September 04, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

Not wanting to "go there", but maybe 'roid rage?

I don't think a player that essential to a team but that still gets cut will find a home elsewhere, unless Toronto loses their RB... is it too late to cut Carey? Is his money guaranteed now?

Blue In BC · September 04, 2024, 04:02:52 PM

Yes I think it's too late to release Carey even if they want to.

When is the trade deadline?

Throw Long Bannatyne · September 04, 2024, 04:04:12 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2024, 03:53:27 PMNot wanting to "go there", but maybe 'roid rage?

I don't think a player that essential to a team but that still gets cut will find a home elsewhere, unless Toronto loses their RB... is it too late to cut Carey? Is his money guaranteed now?

Carey has looked really good this year, a return to form and he's 3rd in rushing behind Brady and Stanback.

blue_gold_84 · September 04, 2024, 05:26:02 PM

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 04, 2024, 04:02:52 PMWhen is the trade deadline?

I can't find anything online but isn't it usually early October...?

Blue In BC · September 04, 2024, 05:54:11 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 04, 2024, 05:26:02 PMI can't find anything online but isn't it usually early October...?

I thought a little earlier than that after veteran cut down date which must have happened by now. We get to add 5 players to the PR in early October which would seem to be post trade deadline?

Hamilton and Edmonton season may ride on the outcome of this weekend. Lose and they may be open to trades for the future and / or to shed SMS ahead of free agency.

TecnoGenius · September 05, 2024, 02:44:49 AM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2024, 04:04:12 PMCarey has looked really good this year, a return to form and he's 3rd in rushing behind Brady and Stanback.

I don't think that's a function of Carey having a good year as much as running being somewhat down league-wide. I don't have the "this time last year" comparisons, but the general feel is that this season is more of a passing season?

Also might be that Carey has stayed healthy every game?

I would have guessed Armstead had the better stats season-to-date! But he did take a few games to really get up to speed, being a rookie.

blue_gold_84 · September 05, 2024, 01:56:01 PM

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 04, 2024, 05:54:11 PMI thought a little earlier than that after veteran cut down date which must have happened by now. We get to add 5 players to the PR in early October which would seem to be post trade deadline?

No idea. You'd think there'd be a schedule of key dates online, but I guess that's too much to ask from this bush league.

Blueforlife · September 05, 2024, 04:36:55 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 05, 2024, 01:56:01 PMNo idea. You'd think there'd be a schedule of key dates online, but I guess that's too much to ask from this bush league.

Name calling uncalled for imo.

blue_gold_84 · September 05, 2024, 04:53:36 PM

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 05, 2024, 04:36:55 PMName calling uncalled for imo.

Name-calling...?

I think it's more than fair to label the CFL as bush league when it can't even release a schedule of important dates throughout the year.

Which is to say nothing of the other nonsensical ways in which it operates.

Blueforlife · September 05, 2024, 05:21:25 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 05, 2024, 04:53:36 PMName-calling...?

I think it's more than fair to label the CFL as bush league when it can't even release a schedule of important dates throughout the year.

Which is to say nothing of the other nonsensical ways in which it operates.

I don't agree with calling the CFL bush league.
The CFL has a rich history and deserves more respect than that. Yes there are issues. Can discuss the issues without the name calling imo.

Not a cut but a big injury report

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/05/report-als-move-star-wr-austin-mack-to-the-six-game-injured-list/

Blue In BC · September 05, 2024, 05:34:06 PM

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 05, 2024, 05:21:25 PMI don't agree with calling the CFL bush league.
The CFL has a rich history and deserves more respect than that. Yes there are issues. Can discuss the issues without the name calling imo.

Not a cut but a big injury report

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/05/report-als-move-star-wr-austin-mack-to-the-six-game-injured-list/

Als keeping losing top receivers. I'd expect Mack may be back sooner than 6 games but an ankle injury can be a problem for the rest of the season.

OTOH, the Als are 10 - 1 with little chance of being knocked out of 1st place. If Mack stays on the 6 game IR, they save that amount of SMS and then bring him back healthy for the play offs.

I would have liked Mack to be on the roster against the Lions but it is what it is. Als should still win.

gobombersgo · September 05, 2024, 05:55:36 PM

Here's some info on what's being discussed:

Trade deadline:
I dont believe the league has formally announce the trade deadline date but it's been the 1st week of October the last couple of seasons.

What are the restrictions on releasing a veteran player?

As per Article 15 of the CBA, players of certain veteran status must be paid their full salary, pension, playoff and Grey Cup earnings if they are released after a certain point in the season.

Qualified as a Veteran of / Entitled to 100% salary after
Six years or more 9th Regular Season game
Five years 10th Regular Season game
Four years 11th Regular Season game

Full salary would apply to game salary only, future timed bonus payments would not be included since they are most likely worded as a roster bonus (player receives bonus if he is on the roster/under contract at a specific time). Other bonus payments for starts, games played, etc. would have to be met to be received.

Expanded practice rosters:

For a one-month period every season, CFL teams are permitted to carry an additional five practice-roster players.

Starting in 2015 teams have the ability to choose when their 30 day expansion period begins within the league window, which in 2015 started Sept. 5 and ended Nov. 8.

Blue In BC · September 05, 2024, 06:44:47 PM

So in theory any team should be in a position to add 5 additional players to their PR if they choose. All veteran salaries are now locked in as we approach either game 12 or 13 for every team.

gobombersgo · September 05, 2024, 06:49:19 PM

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2024, 06:44:47 PMSo in theory any team should be in a position to add 5 additional players to their PR if they choose. All veteran salaries are now locked in as we approach either game 12 or 13 for every team.

Yeah, Montreal has already expanded their practice roster. Winnipeg will probably do it after the bye.

TecnoGenius · September 06, 2024, 05:37:57 AM

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2024, 06:44:47 PMSo in theory any team should be in a position to add 5 additional players to their PR if they choose. All veteran salaries are now locked in as we approach either game 12 or 13 for every team.

I assume the lock-in is also within the SMS? i.e. If we drop Big Stan tomorrow we'd have to pay his salary and also lose the same amount of SMS space?