Will Kelly play again?

[TecnoGenius]

Do you think Kelly will ever play a live snap in the CFL again?  Not what you want to happen: What do you think will happen, based on the information you have at the moment, and knowing what you know about Kelly the man, the league, the modern zeitgeist, etc.

[GOLDMEMBER]

He will be playing again in the CFL.

[LXTSN]

He's got a 9-game suspension right? He'll play for sure. If he were just a role player, he would be banned. It's not fair, but that's just how life works.

In my opinion, the Argo's HR/management should take just as big a discipline. If it's clear that there was misconduct, then it should be easy to prove that Argos HR/management was aware of it.
What can they do to discipline an organization? Take away picks? Fines? They are getting sued by this lady too right?

[Blue In BC]

I'm on the fence and think it's about even one way or the other. I haven't been keeping up with all the details aside from the accusations.

If there are charges laid, a trial and he's found guilty then he's gone. If there is no trail but a payout from him and / or the team then he's gone.

Have we heard specifically on either of those situations or will we if it's dealt with quietly?

Not sure the purpose of the league suggesting a minimum 9 games? What are they waiting for the to make a final conclusion?

Will he even be admissible into Canada?

[Waffler]

He's got a a point to prove, last year's playoff is actually what I am referring to here.
Argos will keep him up to date with video calls and come Labor Day or just after he will be the healthiest starter in the CFL. Argos played games with the Murphy indefinite suspension by hiring him as consultant. He is currently the defacto GM, though Pinball has the title. No doubt they cut corners and find angles to play on this too.

[blue_gold_84]

I voted yes simply because of his value to his team. I just don't know when he'll play again.

[theaardvark]

How many strikes did Manzeil get, and did the league learn from his situation?

Its not like this is the first incident in his career, just the latest, and thinking this leopard will change his spots isn't the best bet, in my opinion.  Just having him on the roster means Argos hiring policies might toe the league line, but thier practices probably won't favour hiring diversity.

This is not a substance abuse issue, it is not a victimless incident, and it is a direct insult to the leagues diversity strategy/commitment.

I think it warrants a much less tolerant, much less forgiving reaction than Manzeil.

I think the 9 game was the minimum the league could do, and making the Argos start the season that far behind the 8 ball should make Pinball scour the QB ranks for a permanent replacement. 

Even if Kelly could come back on the field, I think all nine teams fans will boo him, the Argos fans especially because he hamstrung them cap wise, and will make them field a less competitive team for the first half the season at least.

[kkc60]

Any other role on the team other than QB1 and he'd be gonzo. Still think he could be gone if Dukes or someone else plays well in his place.

Hopefully Argos management gets some punishment too. It appears Pinball and others may have knew something too.

[The Zipp]

Any other role on the team other than QB1 and he'd be gonzo. Still think he could be gone if Dukes or someone else plays well in his place.

Hopefully Argos management gets some punishment too. It appears Pinball and others may have knew something too.

I think the argos are praying one of these other dudes are able to win some games and Chad makes a quiet exit from the CFL. 

[bomb squad]

I thought at the beginning of all this that he would be out permanently, but he got the 9 games. He should consider himself fortunate. He's likely to play in Game 10. There would have to be some extenuating circumstances to prevent that. Too much talent and he's proven he can really make things happen on the field. Guys like that don't come around often in the CFL. 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I'm on the fence and think it's about even one way or the other. I haven't been keeping up with all the details aside from the accusations.

If there are charges laid, a trial and he's found guilty then he's gone. If there is no trail but a payout from him and / or the team then he's gone.

Have we heard specifically on either of those situations or will we if it's dealt with quietly?

Not sure the purpose of the league suggesting a minimum 9 games? What are they waiting for the to make a final conclusion?

Will he even be admissible into Canada?

This is not a criminal matter it's civil, players that have broken criminal law have been given short suspensions and have been welcomed back with open arms.  Hello Kenny Lawler!

[TecnoGenius]

This is not a criminal matter it's civil, players that have broken criminal law have been given short suspensions and have been welcomed back with open arms.  Hello Kenny Lawler!

Ya, myriad of DUI cases, Duron "Clown" Carter smuggling weed through airports, etc.  The guys actually appearing in courts for actual crimes were let off way easier.

We all have to remember with Kelly there is no allegation of physical abuse, not even allegations of "uttering threats": no allegation of actual crimes.  Police are not involved.  There was no "violence".  What there was was "words" (albeit probably bad ones) and an allegation against the club for wrongful dismissal.

That's why 9 games is shocking.

[TecnoGenius]

If there is no trail but a payout from him and / or the team then he's gone.

These things almost always settle.  Perhaps at a lower amount.  If they let it go all the way in court then, based on what Ambrosie just did, Kelly will probably lose and have to pay the full amount plus costs.  There is basically no scenario where Kelly won't pay out something.

If for some reason Kelly wins the case and has to pay nothing (then the lady has to pay his costs), then Ambrosie will be in major doo-doo about this 9-game.  But that outcome is basically impossible now, unless the investigation was majorly botched.  We have to trust that the CFL found pretty good evidence the lady's allegations are true.

[TecnoGenius]

I at first thought it would have to be players in the locker room turning on Kelly (something most would hesitate at) and spilling the beans... but what if it's ex-players/coaches who signed with other teams in the off-season that did it?  They'd have no (or less) loyalty, and in fact can really help their season by hamstringing TOR.

For instance: Mace... whatever he has to say would carry a lot of weight.

There's also:
Barlow
Bede
Bladek
Robertson
Harris33 (!!!!)
Hendrix
Leake
Henoc
Oullette
Philips
Pickett
Tate

Any of these guys could have a beef and "help" get Kelly/TOR in trouble.

I'm not saying anyone is lying, but the team dynamic does make it harder for the truth to come out.  But not necessarily so for ex-team mates!!  Especially ones in the east...

[Lincoln Locomotive]

He will be playing again in the CFL.

I agree with Goldie....too much money and talent tied up with this guy.   Do I like it?   Not really