Canadian DL David Menard released by BC

Started by VictorRomano, May 03, 2024, 01:39:47 PM

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VictorRomano

He and Betts were pretty decent last year.  I think the only reason BC released him was to make way for Covington's reported $300k salary.

Worth a look?

kkc60

Absolutely. Outside of Jefferson it's all question marks at end (and DT to some degree).

theaardvark

Again, we don't need to be shopping BC's scrap heap for backup DE's... 33 year old vet who will command a decent amount more than an ELC.  No Jefferson hurts, but an Imp DE is going to be younger and cheaper, and you don't find the next guy so long as you plug the spot with a player you have to play because of how much you paid.

Pass.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: VictorRomano on May 03, 2024, 01:39:47 PMHe and Betts were pretty decent last year.  I think the only reason BC released him was to make way for Covington's reported $300k salary.

Worth a look?

Where did you hear Covington's salary at $300K???  That would be an insane amount to pay him or any other DE in the CFL.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 03, 2024, 03:53:27 PMWhere did you hear Covington's salary at $300K???  That would be an insane amount to pay him or any other DE in the CFL.

Considering he's been in the NFL since 2015, and has made $10 mill playing down there, I do not think $300k is a big stretch for him...
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on May 03, 2024, 04:00:49 PMConsidering he's been in the NFL since 2015, and has made $10 mill playing down there, I do not think $300k is a big stretch for him...

That's hardly the point. It's a ridiculous amount for a CFL team to pay. They probably could have re-signed Betts instead.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 03, 2024, 04:12:10 PMThat's hardly the point. It's a ridiculous amount for a CFL team to pay. They probably could have re-signed Betts instead.

Re-signed Betts?  While they were at it, they could re-sign Rourke too.

Betts signed in the NFL.  But sure, offer him $300k and he'd stay north of the border.

Beets, who had a great CFL 2023 vs. Covington who has spent the last 9 years actually playing NFL ball.  I am surprised Covington came north at any price, but I guess if he is going to, its with his home town Lions.

BTW, which is it, sativa or indica?  I want some.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on May 03, 2024, 04:20:50 PMRe-signed Betts?  While they were at it, they could re-sign Rourke too.

Betts signed in the NFL.  But sure, offer him $300k and he'd stay north of the border.

Beets, who had a great CFL 2023 vs. Covington who has spent the last 9 years actually playing NFL ball.  I am surprised Covington came north at any price, but I guess if he is going to, its with his home town Lions.

BTW, which is it, sativa or indica?  I want some.

Lots of NFL veterans come back to the CFL after 1+ years in the NFL. That doesn't get them big money.

Jon Ryan, Chris Streveler more recently for example.
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kkc60

Quote from: theaardvark on May 03, 2024, 03:31:06 PMAgain, we don't need to be shopping BC's scrap heap for backup DE's... 33 year old vet who will command a decent amount more than an ELC.  No Jefferson hurts, but an Imp DE is going to be younger and cheaper, and you don't find the next guy so long as you plug the spot with a player you have to play because of how much you paid.

Pass.
We still need a rotational guy as well, something Menard thrived at in MTL and, with his age, would maximize his abilities. Last season we had no depth at pass rusher and Jefferson and the DL as a whole suffered for it.

Price matters but to dismiss him only because he would "hold back" anyone is misguided. If anything, having a couple of veterans working with Bennett and Haba or some other rookies would be good

Pigskin

The retirement of Jeffcoat will hurt, but I don't know if Menard is the answer. He's been a pretty good as a rotational player. But, he also had a down year in 2023.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 03, 2024, 04:32:32 PMLots of NFL veterans come back to the CFL after 1+ years in the NFL. That doesn't get them big money.

Jon Ryan, Chris Streveler more recently for example.

1+ years of kicking around PR's, yeah.  And Ryan only played in the CFL because it was home. It wasn't for the money. He'd already banked $20mil+ from Seattle. And Streveler is playing for the fun of it, and taking a paycheque.

On the other hand, 9 seasons of mostly active roster time in the NFL kinda carries a premium.  And even if it is $300k, its not that much more that top American Dline have gotten.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on May 03, 2024, 05:53:37 PM1+ years of kicking around PR's, yeah.  And Ryan only played in the CFL because it was home. It wasn't for the money. He'd already banked $20mil+ from Seattle. And Streveler is playing for the fun of it, and taking a paycheque.

On the other hand, 9 seasons of mostly active roster time in the NFL kinda carries a premium.  And even if it is $300k, its not that much more that top American Dline have gotten.

Not a value decision if that's what they are paying him.
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Quote from: theaardvark on May 03, 2024, 04:00:49 PMConsidering he's been in the NFL since 2015, and has made $10 mill playing down there, I do not think $300k is a big stretch for him...

I can't see BC having this much change leftover, they spent pretty heavily in free agency retaining their own and bringing in a few key vet. players from other teams.

Blue In BC

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Not every successful NFL player comes to Canada and has success. Ferragamo, Bilitnekof for example. I also remember Chris Walby making Gastineau wish he had retired. IIRC, he got ejected in his 1st game.

At the time of his retirement, Gastineau was the NFL's all-time leader in sacks. Gastineau attempted a comeback with the BC Lions of the Canadian Football League in 1990, but was released after only four games. Gastineau was inducted into the New York Jets Ring of Honor on October 8, 2012.
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