Streveler signed to one year deal - updated topic

[dd]

I d be ok with mason fine as our #2, but strevy would be by far the more excit8ng of the 2.

[GOLDMEMBER]

But Dru Brown isn't an option.

So do we want Strev on our team as our short yardage and smash mouth runner and back-up, or do we want Shiltz or Cornelius or Fine?

I want Streveler.

I do not mind Shiltz either.

[theaardvark]

I want Sterveler or Prukop as #3, and the best rookie we can find who wins the #2 spot in camp.

I'd rather lose with a rookie QB we are developing than lose with a Fine, or a Shiltz, or even a Streveler in the #2 spot.

And cross my fingers Collaros takes the majority of the snaps for the year...

[Jesse]

I want Sterveler or Prukop as #3, and the best rookie we can find who wins the #2 spot in camp.

I'd rather lose with a rookie QB we are developing than lose with a Fine, or a Shiltz, or even a Streveler in the #2 spot.

And cross my fingers Collaros takes the majority of the snaps for the year...

You're really swept up in the concept that the short yardage guy and the #2 are different positions. I know Walter's said that, but it was a function of our roster, not a concrete philosophy. If we sign Strevy and a rookie. The rookie will not be #2. He will be a developmental prospect.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

You're really swept up in the concept that the short yardage guy and the #2 are different positions. I know Walter's said that, but it was a function of our roster, not a concrete philosophy. If we sign Strevy and a rookie. The rookie will not be #2. He will be a developmental prospect.

Agreed

[buckzumhoff]

Spend too much on streveller might be ok
 As long as bombers put up alot of points. If he wants to come back as he says why is he wanting so much money

[gobombersgo]

I want Sterveler or Prukop as #3, and the best rookie we can find who wins the #2 spot in camp.

I'd rather lose with a rookie QB we are developing than lose with a Fine, or a Shiltz, or even a Streveler in the #2 spot.

And cross my fingers Collaros takes the majority of the snaps for the year...

Delevoping a QB is overrated in my opinion. Just field the best possible QBs you can regardless of where they came from.

QBs rarely stick with the team that brought them into the league. You need to look no further than Dru Brown as an example.

There is a high likelihood that Zach's eventual replacement will come from another team.

[theaardvark]

Delevoping a QB is overrated in my opinion. Just field the best possible QBs you can regardless of where they came from.

QBs rarely stick with the team that brought them into the league. You need to look no further than Dru Brown as an example.

There is a high likelihood that Zach's eventual replacement will come from another team.

Developing a QB is not a talent issue, it is an economic issue.  The only reason we had Dru here was he was on an ELC.  We could afford to have a talented guy in the wings.

If we sign a retread CFL QB worth signing, it will NOT be at an ELC level.

Will we find a rookie QB that is talented enough to play #2?  I hope so.  And then we can have a Prokup/Streveler at a higher cost as our #3.  I'd want a talented rookie coming in and developing and maybe winning, rather than a QB that might not lose.

If we don't replace a QB from within, we will be paying a premium to replace Collaros.  And that might even be Dru. I really question Walters decision here, I hope I am proved wrong, but I think when CGY moved on from Mitchell to go with Maier, they weren't all wrong...   there was no way Buck, MOS or Walters would ever move on from Collaros, they are far to dedicated to vets, and Collaros hasn't played himself off this team, but Dru might have been the best chance of winning in 2025... 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Delevoping a QB is overrated in my opinion. Just field the best possible QBs you can regardless of where they came from.

QBs rarely stick with the team that brought them into the league. You need to look no further than Dru Brown as an example.

There is a high likelihood that Zach's eventual replacement will come from another team.

Kind of pointless worrying about Zach's retirement and who will potentially replace him at this point, in the CFL plans rarely proceed in an orderly fashion.  They'll adjust to it when it happens with the options available, not 2 years in advance.  Till then, there are a couple more Grey Cups to play for and many games to be won. 

My rule of thumb is if a backup QB can win 50% of the games he starts while filling in, that's the expectation.  I'm confident Strev. could fill that requirement and bring more upside than any backup QB they could pick up this off-season, as long as the Bombers can meet his asking price.

[theaardvark]

Kind of pointless worrying about Zach's retirement and who will potentially replace him at this point, in the CFL plans rarely proceed in an orderly fashion.  They'll adjust to it when it happens with the options available, not 2 years in advance.  Till then, there are a couple more Grey Cups to play for and many games to be won. 

My rule of thumb is if a backup QB can win 50% of the games he starts while filling in, that's the expectation.  I'm confident Strev. could fill that requirement and bring more upside than any backup QB they could pick up this off-season, as long as the Bombers can meet his asking price.

With a GC winning team around him, Streveler was 3 and 5 as a starter with the team going 8 and 2 the rest of the games.

He is a great player, but running the team for an entire game does not seem to have been his strength.

Is he the same QB today?  With NFL coaching?  Who knows what way that goes.

[Jesse]

With a GC winning team around him, Streveler was 3 and 5 as a starter with the team going 8 and 2 the rest of the games.

He is a great player, but running the team for an entire game does not seem to have been his strength.

Is he the same QB today?  With NFL coaching?  Who knows what way that goes.

I don't care. We're not trying to sign him to be our starter.

[LXTSN]

I don't care. We're not trying to sign him to be our starter.

The problem would be the cost.
QB1 - Most costly in the league
QB2 - Searching for a replacement that has experience that can just plug and play (probably will cost more than most backups)
SYQB - How much is there left to spend to use Streveler as a short yardage QB?
I know that Streveler will do more than what most SYQB's do, but how much more? We will have a package for him to run the option, and that has proven to be effective. Plus, he would add a fire to our whole team and fanbase whenever he hits the turf.
The question is, how much is that worth to us, and how much do we have available?

[theaardvark]

The problem would be the cost.
QB1 - Most costly in the league
QB2 - Searching for a replacement that has experience that can just plug and play (probably will cost more than most backups)
SYQB - How much is there left to spend to use Streveler as a short yardage QB?
I know that Streveler will do more than what most SYQB's do, but how much more? We will have a package for him to run the option, and that has proven to be effective. Plus, he would add a fire to our whole team and fanbase whenever he hits the turf.
The question is, how much is that worth to us, and how much do we have available?

We know what QB1 costs, and that another of the 3 will be on an ELC.  So what the budget is for the 3rd QB in the room is going to be a very easily defined number, based on our budget for the QB position.

Other than Streveler or Prukop, I don't see us investing in a premium cost "CFL experienced" QB, unless they come on the very, very cheap. 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

We know what QB1 costs, and that another of the 3 will be on an ELC.  So what the budget is for the 3rd QB in the room is going to be a very easily defined number, based on our budget for the QB position.

Other than Streveler or Prukop, I don't see us investing in a premium cost "CFL experienced" QB, unless they come on the very, very cheap. 

Here is the list of remaining QB's available in FA, other than Schiltz none can demand a significant pay increase.

Nick Arbuckle, Ottawa Redblacks (A)
Dominique Davis, B.C. Lions (A)
Jake Dolegala, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Mason Fine, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Kai Locksley, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)
Dakota Prukop, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A)
Matthew Shiltz, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)

If they can't afford Strev. I would roll with Prukop for convenience sake, or wait until Ottawa is forced to cut one of their young QB's, don't see them cutting Crum unfortunately.  Wildcard is Cornelius, surprised someone hasn't already picked him up, he might be a good fit in Calgary.

[theaardvark]

Here is the list of remaining QB's available in FA, other than Schiltz none can demand a significant pay increase.

Nick Arbuckle, Ottawa Redblacks (A)
Dominique Davis, B.C. Lions (A)
Jake Dolegala, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Mason Fine, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Kai Locksley, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)
Dakota Prukop, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A)
Matthew Shiltz, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)

If they can't afford Strev. I would roll with Prukop for convenience sake, or wait until Ottawa is forced to cut one of their young QB's, don't see them cutting Crum unfortunately.  Wildcard is Cornelius, surprised someone hasn't already picked him up, he might be a good fit in Calgary.

Other than Prukop, no one on that list (including Corny) interests me in the least.  They will all want/get significantly more than an ELC.  Shiltz still has a little upside, and might get an in-season injury phone call, but with what most teams are paying their starters, not sure what the market is for these tier two never made its is.  Might be a few teams that wil take a flyer on them to back up older/cheaper/injury prone QB's, which again takes them out of the price point we'd be looking for.

Prukop will possibly test the FA market, or even the new spring league, but I fully expect him back in camp, with Collaros, Prukop and one of the young guns we've signed entering the season.