Riders' Head Coach Vacancy

Started by ModAdmin, November 28, 2023, 03:29:29 AM

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So Michael Ball, the Roughriders "voice" first said today that Mace was "out of the running for the Riders HC job" and then, that "the Bombers have some cash to keep (Buck Pierce) in the fold" and that "Buck is the HC in waiting" for the Bombers. He then deleted the post.  This is the danger in posting rumours.
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Quote from: ModAdmin on November 30, 2023, 05:45:58 AM
So Michael Ball, the Roughriders "voice" first said today that Mace was "out of the running for the Riders HC job" and then, that "the Bombers have some cash to keep (Buck Pierce) in the fold" and that "Buck is the HC in waiting" for the Bombers. He then deleted the post.  This is the danger in posting rumours.

In fairness, Ballsy is a braindead goof.
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According to Ed Tait, Buck pulled himself out of contention.

"Still, as every new opportunity arose, Pierce has also come to further appreciate what he has here in Winnipeg with the Blue Bombers.

And that's why he's decided to remain as the club's offensive coordinator after pulling his name from consideration for the Saskatchewan Roughriders head coaching vacancy this week."

https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/11/30/ive-always-felt-that-if-youre-happy-doing-what-youre-doing-why-mess-with-it/

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Within the above article there is a video (below) with Buck talking about cancer and how it has affected his family and life.  Well worth watching...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/10/20/buck-pierce-intercept-cancer/
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 30, 2023, 04:19:23 AM
Hmm, maybe Buck flying at the camera, maybe on a scramble, with some Esks chasing him?  That's my guess.  A "flying Buck"!

Exactly.  Flying right into the camera.  I think it was against Hamilton though. 

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 30, 2023, 05:49:32 PM
According to Ed Tait, Buck pulled himself out of contention.

"Still, as every new opportunity arose, Pierce has also come to further appreciate what he has here in Winnipeg with the Blue Bombers.

And that's why he's decided to remain as the club's offensive coordinator after pulling his name from consideration for the Saskatchewan Roughriders head coaching vacancy this week."

Wow, if that's true, then did Buck lead SSK on a bit of a wild goose chase?  Take the wine & dine, see what they were offering, but already be leaning "no"?  Was Buck the #1 choice but him bailing forced them to go Mace?  That won't endear Buck to the Riderville faithful.  Might be hard to ever know the truth about any of this.

Buck does fit best here.  He had every chance of crashing & burning as a HC and not getting any CFL job for 5-10 years.  Look at Lapo in his first HC stint (and second).  Maybe Buck gave Lapo a call and he told him the grass isn't always greener...  Be the best OC you can, get a pretty good salary and a nice little bump in pay every year.  Don't have all the headaches of all that HC stuff.  Don't have the weight of the whole team on your shoulders.  Don't take the public blame for everything.

As I said before, and you guys point out with the "alpha male" thing: Buck is soft-spoken.  He doesn't thrive being in front of the cameras every day.  Someone like that would have a hard time in SSK.  Look how bad Craig got pilloried for his awww shucks mealy-mouthed attitude.  SSK needs a Kent Austin or Kavis Reed... or Chris Jones.  Mace might be that guy.  I actually think this pick will turn out ok for SSK... assuming their GM can get his head out of his rump.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: ModAdmin on November 30, 2023, 05:45:58 AM
So Michael Ball, the Roughriders "voice" first said today that Mace was "out of the running for the Riders HC job" and then, that "the Bombers have some cash to keep (Buck Pierce) in the fold" and that "Buck is the HC in waiting" for the Bombers. He then deleted the post.  This is the danger in posting rumours.

I for one would love to hear where WPG is getting all this imagined SMS cash to get Buck and KW et al paid...

The "HC in waiting" thing, though, might have some truth to it.  If there is no more money for a raise for Buck, or he has to take a pay cut so KW can earn more, then one thing you can do is have a clear promotion plan in place and make promises for the future.  Especially if MOS has a clear timeframe of when he wants to retire: like after 2025...  Just like I think Killam has received the same promise in CGY.

Soft-spoken Buck may not be great as a SSK HC, but it just might work in WPG!  We're used to our HC not telling us anything anyway.  You don't get more storybook than MOS retiring in 2025 GC glory, and (mostly)always-a-Bomber Buck going from QB to QB coach to OC to.... HC in 2026.

Hey, a man can dream.
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So if Mace is now SSK HC... who gets to be DC of TOR?  Is Young still there??  Does he get promoted?
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on December 01, 2023, 03:12:14 AM
Wow, if that's true, then did Buck lead SSK on a bit of a wild goose chase?  Take the wine & dine, see what they were offering, but already be leaning "no"?  Was Buck the #1 choice but him bailing forced them to go Mace?  That won't endear Buck to the Riderville faithful.  Might be hard to ever know the truth about any of this.

Buck does fit best here.  He had every chance of crashing & burning as a HC and not getting any CFL job for 5-10 years.  Look at Lapo in his first HC stint (and second).  Maybe Buck gave Lapo a call and he told him the grass isn't always greener...  Be the best OC you can, get a pretty good salary and a nice little bump in pay every year.  Don't have all the headaches of all that HC stuff.  Don't have the weight of the whole team on your shoulders.  Don't take the public blame for everything.

As I said before, and you guys point out with the "alpha male" thing: Buck is soft-spoken.  He doesn't thrive being in front of the cameras every day.  Someone like that would have a hard time in SSK.  Look how bad Craig got pilloried for his awww shucks mealy-mouthed attitude.  SSK needs a Kent Austin or Kavis Reed... or Chris Jones.  Mace might be that guy.  I actually think this pick will turn out ok for SSK... assuming their GM can get his head out of his rump.
Buck likely talked with O'Day and may not have liked what he heard. If he's gonna make a move hes obviously waiting for the right situation

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Glad Mace is with the Riders. I would hate to see us up against Pierce.

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on December 01, 2023, 03:19:42 AM
So if Mace is now SSK HC... who gets to be DC of TOR?  Is Young still there??  Does he get promoted?

There was some talk Jason Shivers would be interviewed.

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on December 01, 2023, 03:12:14 AM
Wow, if that's true, then did Buck lead SSK on a bit of a wild goose chase?  Take the wine & dine, see what they were offering, but already be leaning "no"?  Was Buck the #1 choice but him bailing forced them to go Mace?  That won't endear Buck to the Riderville faithful.  Might be hard to ever know the truth about any of this.

Buck does fit best here.  He had every chance of crashing & burning as a HC and not getting any CFL job for 5-10 years.  Look at Lapo in his first HC stint (and second).  Maybe Buck gave Lapo a call and he told him the grass isn't always greener...  Be the best OC you can, get a pretty good salary and a nice little bump in pay every year.  Don't have all the headaches of all that HC stuff.  Don't have the weight of the whole team on your shoulders.  Don't take the public blame for everything.

As I said before, and you guys point out with the "alpha male" thing: Buck is soft-spoken.  He doesn't thrive being in front of the cameras every day.  Someone like that would have a hard time in SSK.  Look how bad Craig got pilloried for his awww shucks mealy-mouthed attitude.  SSK needs a Kent Austin or Kavis Reed... or Chris Jones.  Mace might be that guy.  I actually think this pick will turn out ok for SSK... assuming their GM can get his head out of his rump.

I have to agree, after Dickenson Buck may not have been the best HC to shake up that organization, he comes off as and X and O's guy but does not have a strong personality and would receive much the same criticism as Dickenson if the team underperformed.  I think they made the right choice, but time will tell.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 01, 2023, 06:10:14 PM
There was some talk Jason Shivers would be interviewed.

Well that would be a bit crazy... what is this, an episode of Coach Swappers?  But stranger things have happened...
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