Dru Brown keep at all costs or accept that he's gone

Started by bunker, October 28, 2023, 02:52:42 PM

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 keep at all costs or accept that he's gone

He'll be too expensive, we'll have to let him go and hope Zach ages well
13 (28.3%)
He's too good and too young to lose, find some way to keep him even if it means eventually trading or cutting Zach
10 (21.7%)
Try to keep both of them by offering Drew a three year deal with huge money in the third year guaranteed
20 (43.5%)
Let him go, small sample size and any QB would look good in this offence
3 (6.5%)

Total Members Voted: 46

Voting closed: November 27, 2023, 01:52:42 PM

Blue In BC

Quote from: Waffler on October 29, 2023, 12:16:22 PM
I doubt anyone would say cut him. But if we come up short two years in a row then something needs to change and we have a lot of money tied up in that one guy. That limits what we can do. Win and we have no problems whatsoever. See you at the parade.

To me this question is better asked AFTER the Grey Cup as I am sure that's when the Bombers will evaluate everything. It's something they do every year.

Actually the choices and responses in the poll suggest a few think we should in order to keep Brown.

I thought we over paid Collaros when he got his new deal. I understand why we would do that since he was the best QB in the CFL. OTOH, any QB getting that much is taking a lot of money out of the SMS and it impacts the overall roster. I'd be happier if his contract was closer to $500K.

That said, the Bombers once again scored the most points in the CFL. We also gave up the least points on defence edging out the Argos on both counts.

We all hope / even expect to be in the Grey Cup and have a very good chance of winning.

I don't think the winning lies completely in the hands of Collaros. He'll certainly be a significant part in the immediate future. He'll be here until he retires.
Take no prisoners

peg_city

There are some short term memories here.

Collaros is the most important bomber since......Ken Ploen? I wasn't around for that, so I'll go with him.

It's not like he had a down year this year. He had his usual year. We finished 14-4. If we don't win the grey cup, it's probably not going to be his fault.

The chances that Dru Brown is the next Zach Collaros is slim. Do we need to go through the list of quarterback who we thought were going to be great that weren't? Since 2000 - Pat Barnes, Kevin Glenn, Tee Martin, Alex Brink & Joey Elliott (who both won player of the week multiple times), Spergeon Wynn, Brad Banks (remember him being the next big QB with Ottawa, 100QB rating), Ryan Dinwiddie, Matt Nichols, Drew Willy and whoever else I forgot.

Sec223

A few players have been mentioned to dump to keep Brown (mostly on O). A couple big salaries could be trimmed on D. I'm looking at you Willy and JJ. Any old O linemen retiring ? Is Fatboi playing forever ?

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: peg_city on October 29, 2023, 01:36:55 PM
There are some short term memories here.

Collaros is the most important bomber since......Ken Ploen? I wasn't around for that, so I'll go with him.

It's not like he had a down year this year. He had his usual year. We finished 14-4. If we don't win the grey cup, it's probably not going to be his fault.

The chances that Dru Brown is the next Zach Collaros is slim. Do we need to go through the list of quarterback who we thought were going to be great that weren't? Since 2000 - Pat Barnes, Kevin Glenn, Tee Martin, Alex Brink & Joey Elliott (who both won player of the week multiple times), Spergeon Wynn, Brad Banks (remember him being the next big QB with Ottawa, 100QB rating), Ryan Dinwiddie, Matt Nichols, Drew Willy and whoever else I forgot.
In all fairness Glenn was great for a 2-4 year period here but we all know what happened to him in 07.
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Interesting Dru Brown stat...

Willie H. Jefferson III reposted
John Hodge
@JohnDHodge
CFL stats guru Steve Daniel tells me that Blue Bombers' QB Dru Brown set a new league record for most single-season passing touchdowns with zero interceptions.

The previous record of seven was set by Drew Tate in 2010. Brown?s new record is nine.

#Bombers | #ForTheW | #CFL
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J5V

The culture Mike O'Shea and Wade Miller have instilled into this club guarantees that the players that are here bleed blue and gold. Any player leaving here over money does so at their own peril. This is what made the Andrew Harris affair so disappointing. He'll always be a traitor to me for that reason. No one player is ever greater than the team and that applies to Dru Brown as it did to Andrew Harris. I have no doubt that the Bombers will do everything possible to keep that young man here to continue learning from one of the all-time greats. He and Zach make a great pair and I'd love to see them both with this club for many years to come.
Go Bombers!

Blue In BC

The success of any QB involves the talent around him. Bombers have either the best or 2nd best OL. They have the best RB and either the best or 2nd best receivers in the CFL. We can debate the minute details about our OL and receivers. However our offence is darn good.

I'm not trying to take anything away from Brown because he's played well.

What would he have looked like in Edmonton, Regina or Ottawa where their offensive talent was not good. Bad in all aspects. Would he have made any of those teams better? Possibly but it would have been an uphill battle.

Regardless he may choose to leave for an opportunity to start. Money is only one aspect and I can't blame him for either of those choices if that's what happens.
Take no prisoners

Waffler

I can't remember a QB turn down a starter's job in the CFL if they were ready or not.
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dd

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 29, 2023, 05:39:15 PM
The success of any QB involves the talent around him. Bombers have either the best or 2nd best OL. They have the best RB and either the best or 2nd best receivers in the CFL. We can debate the minute details about our OL and receivers. However our offence is darn good.

I'm not trying to take anything away from Brown because he's played well.

What would he have looked like in Edmonton, Regina or Ottawa where their offensive talent was not good. Bad in all aspects. Would he have made any of those teams better? Possibly but it would have been an uphill battle.

Regardless he may choose to leave for an opportunity to start. Money is only one aspect and I can't blame him for either of those choices if that's what happens.
Don?t know what he would have done in Edmonton Regina or Ottawa, but there was a stark contrast in our ability to move the ball when Prokop was in vs brown. Yes, both were working without our key starters, so that would be analogous to Edmonton or Ottawa, and brown never missed a beat, leukoplakia sputtered, which is like crum, Powell etc etc. He?s ready alright will be shocked if he isn?t given the starters role in Ottawa or Edmonton as I think riders will stick with Harris

Waffler

Quote from: dd on October 29, 2023, 09:31:06 PM
He?s ready alright will be shocked if he isn?t given the starters role in Ottawa or Edmonton as I think riders will stick with Harris

He is ready and that's why I think money won't keep him here. Opportunity to play is what he will want.  The third option everyone is picking is a pipe dream.
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dd

Agreed. Every athlete just wants to play, Dru's no different. And Ottawa will do well with him

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Waffler on October 29, 2023, 12:16:22 PM
To me this question is better asked AFTER the Grey Cup as I am sure that's when the Bombers will evaluate everything. It's something they do every year.

I don't think the result of the cup means anything regarding the decision of our QB.  Just getting to the GC (let alone winning the W) is reason enough to keep your QB.  I know everyone wants the cup, but just being there is a massive achievement... and 4 seasons in a row!!
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Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 29, 2023, 10:43:19 PM
I don't think the result of the cup means anything regarding the decision of our QB.  Just getting to the GC (let alone winning the W) is reason enough to keep your QB.  I know everyone wants the cup, but just being there is a massive achievement... and 4 seasons in a row!!

Need I remind you we haven't gotten to the Grey Cup yet? I think it matters greatly if we don't or if we look "not good enough" in other aspects of a loss. A large part of the payroll is committed at QB. It would be fair to ask if that is the way forward. But again, just win baby and all the questions go away. No one willingly blows up a championship team.
Buried in the essentially random digits of pi, you can find your eight-digit birthdate. (Is that a wink from God or just a lot of digits?) - David G. Myers
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Everything seems stupid when it fails.  - Fyodor Dostoevsky

peg_city

Quote from: Waffler on October 29, 2023, 07:51:13 PM
I can't remember a QB turn down a starter's job in the CFL if they were ready or not.

Adrian McPherson in Montreal comes to mind. Maybe not a starters job, but a job that would have gotten him more of an opportunity.

Sir Blue and Gold

Dru Brown is a really good QB prospect but that is no guarantee he's a sure fire starter. You put Brown behind a different offensive line with a less dominant running game, a different system and a downgrade at receiver and who knows what happens. I would definitely try and keep Brown, but you can't move on from Collaros to do it. That would make no sense.