The demise of the Riders...Dickenson fired...GM extended.

[theaardvark]

This was not unexpected after he took the blame for the failure... wonder where he ends up.  

At least keeping ODay means one less competitor for Walters...

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

This was not unexpected after he took the blame for the failure... wonder where he ends up.  

At least keeping ODay means one less competitor for Walters...

Don't know if the Bombers would ever shake up ST but if they did, he would be a candidate.  His resume is thick, he owns 2 GC rings and he's been STC on every Western team except the Lions since 2005, he held that job with the Bombers in 2013.

[BLUEBOMBER]

Dickenson is not a bad HC by any stretch of the imagination. Any team will sink if they don't have a good QB and OC. If anybody should be fired, it should be their DC. The Riders defence can't stop anything. I would expect Dickenson to be picked up by another team pretty soon.

[TecnoGenius]

Dickenson takes the fall, but he's not to blame for the swath of empty seats, they should have cleaned house right to the top.

Keeping O'Day is a terrible decision.

Yes, I'm a bit surprised JOD survives, actually.  Or maybe this is a move by the Pres/board to save their own skin by pretending the incompetence was limited to Craig.  (Pro tip: it wasn't.)  If they fired JOD too, then it also reflects poorly on the ones above them.

I expect the same stinky-level roster in SSK next year... or worse!

This was not unexpected after he took the blame for the failure... wonder where he ends up.  

At least keeping ODay means one less competitor for Walters...

You said it.  Though why Walters would walk to have a lateral move for similar capped $$ in Regina to inherit a tire fire is beyond me.  I think talk of that was just pipedreaming by greenie fans wishing they were really all Bombers.

[TecnoGenius]

Dickenson is not a bad HC by any stretch of the imagination. Any team will sink if they don't have a good QB and OC. If anybody should be fired, it should be their DC. The Riders defence can't stop anything. I would expect Dickenson to be picked up by another team pretty soon.

Yes he is bad.  He has no fire whatsoever and the rough & tumble players in football don't respect that.  There's a reason he's known as the "awww shucks, the boys tried hard" coach.  Just contrast with the fire his brother shows on and off field, or any other coach for that matter.

There are times when you need to be Kavis.  SSK had many such moments in the last 2 seasons, and yet Craig never pulled a Kavis.  They didn't need "awww shucks", they needed "there will be consequences".

I would bet money Craig will never be a HC in the CFL again.  Maybe a 30% chance he can even be a STC again somewhere.

[TecnoGenius]

Does this mean Shivers is safe??  Or can the new HC pick his coordinators?  I can see them giving that new-ish OC some more rope -- I wouldn't, but I can see how they might.  But Shivers oversaw one of the worst D's in the league, and this after a couple seasons ago they were near the top.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Does this mean Shivers is safe??  Or can the new HC pick his coordinators?  I can see them giving that new-ish OC some more rope -- I wouldn't, but I can see how they might.  But Shivers oversaw one of the worst D's in the league, and this after a couple seasons ago they were near the top.

Unless the new HC is hired from within, I'd think he's going to insist on bringing in his own assistants.

O'Day received a 3 year extension to fix the mess.  Success rewards performance!

[Waffler]

Yes he is bad.  He has no fire whatsoever and the rough & tumble players in football don't respect that.  There's a reason he's known as the "awww shucks, the boys tried hard" coach.  Just contrast with the fire his brother shows on and off field, or any other coach for that matter.

Fire as you call it does not make a good coach. Discipline, yes. and Sask did not have it. I can name a very long list of successful coaches that barely spoke during a game. Also some that have been successful with fire but I feel the brainy ones that win year after year don't react like that. Prime example here and in the NFL. Bud Grant. Never said a word to an official during a game, never changed expression. He was busy thinking 3 plays ahead.  He did command the player's respect, he knew how to get that.

I feel for Dickenson in a way because he was a fill in when Jones bailed. I still think he would be good on special teams. But the penalties they took there and the down right dirty play he condoned.... nope.

[dd]

Riders were so undisciplined it was pathetic. Robertsons headbutt was a reflection of exactly how undisciplined they are and dickensons comments after the game almost supported the headbutt. Sorry don?t need spineless coaches anywhere

[TecnoGenius]

O'Day received a 3 year extension to fix the mess.  Success rewards performance!

Ya, I'm watching the CR presser and he said 3 years... wow, just wow.  Unbelievable.  That means they are stuck with him for the actual 3 years even if he brings in the worst roster in the history of the CFL next season.  Because of the office cap they literally are stuck with him for 3 years come hell or high water.  To fire him after next season would be cap suicide.

Why not just give JOD 1 year?  What on earth do they gain by giving him 3?  It actually makes no sense whatsoever.  Please, make it make sense!!

Haha, CR saying the have a "very talented roster"!  And that HC's will like working for JOD.  And even worse things.  He's living in lala land and they are all doomed, but only after another 3 years, I guess.

I feel sorry for the green fans.  This gives them basically zero hope for next season.  Cue the exodus.  How can a pres and BoD be so blind?

[TecnoGenius]

Fire as you call it does not make a good coach. Discipline, yes. and Sask did not have it. I can name a very long list of successful coaches that barely spoke during a game.

Then I need to qualify "fire".  To me fire is discipline.  Watch Dinwiddie and Dickenson (the red one) instantly handle players who are costing the team.  MOS does it too, but in a different way: he's more "closed doors".  But you know he's not putting up with bunk that costs the team.  That's why I brought up Kavis.

I don't mean "fire" like Austin or Maas losing their marbles on the field at the refs and the headsets.  That's not fire, that's general insanity and petulance.

Players knew that if they did something dumb (say Marino, or Robertson) that Craig was going to "aww shucks" them, both on and off field.  That's how you end up with that Mess At Mosaic(TM).

[BLUEBOMBER]

Guess $hit happens when you build a stadium that looks like a toilet seat.. 

[bunker]

Ya, I'm watching the CR presser and he said 3 years... wow, just wow.  Unbelievable.  That means they are stuck with him for the actual 3 years even if he brings in the worst roster in the history of the CFL next season.  Because of the office cap they literally are stuck with him for 3 years come hell or high water.  To fire him after next season would be cap suicide.

Why not just give JOD 1 year?  What on earth do they gain by giving him 3?  It actually makes no sense whatsoever.  Please, make it make sense!!

Haha, CR saying the have a "very talented roster"!  And that HC's will like working for JOD.  And even worse things.  He's living in lala land and they are all doomed, but only after another 3 years, I guess.

I feel sorry for the green fans.  This gives them basically zero hope for next season.  Cue the exodus.  How can a pres and BoD be so blind?

I will try. It would be tough to bring back a GM for one year. He's a lame duck, and it would make it hard to convince a coach to come there (harder than it is already). The new HC might be O'Day's guy, but in 12 months, O'Day is gone and the coach is left hanging in the wind under a new GM who may never have wanted him as a HC in the first place. (See Khari in Montreal for example).

Having said that, I agree it was insane to bring O'Day back for 3 years. He's the one who decided to hire Dickenson, who is not meant to be a HC. He also put together a pretty mediocre roster. Even Rider's own fans agree that not many of their players would be starters on other CFL teams, and they had very few impact players. Riders organization now reminds me of us under Mack and Buchko. Its great for us in terms of less competition in the division, but pretty awful for their fans.

[TecnoGenius]

Riders organization now reminds me of us under Mack and Buchko. Its great for us in terms of less competition in the division, but pretty awful for their fans.

I don't know... I think having, in the west, 3 strong-ish teams, 1 middling team, and only 1 tire fire team (like many of the last few years, but not this one) helped us in many ways.  The main one being it evens out the W/L's for the 2nd best team when we are the 1st best team.  BC was able to keep up with us because the other 3 divisional teams stunk.

If there was a stronger CGY or SSK this year they would have shaved more W's off of BC and we could have clinched 1st sooner as in previous years.

Guess **** happens when you build a stadium that looks like a toilet seat.. 

Hehehe. 

[TecnoGenius]

Oh no!  Daniella Ponticelli on CKRM Regina radio announced in the post-game that she's leaving the station after the GC.  I know few here will care, but man I'll miss that voice, it's half the reason why I tuned into the greenie post-gamers.  Maybe she just couldn't take the heartbreak anymore, or got some even better job offers for that buttery voice.

Maybe she's coming to WPG to take on my 3-hour post-game CJOB show idea!    One can dream...