Trade Deadline?

Started by Blue In BC, October 01, 2023, 06:01:40 PM

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Blue In BC

It must be approaching soon?  I don't expect the Bombers to be making any significant moves. Maybe some neg list or draft picks of small consequence.

The question is whether any of the teams out of the play off race or close to out make any moves? Players that are potential free agents or not part of 2024 plans at this point for example.

Edmonton, Ottawa and Calgary could be shedding some players to save some SMS if there are any takers.
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Pete

I would look at
Ottawa
Kevin Francis  national, very good on special teams
Cleyon Laing dt
Edmonton
Purifoy  very versatile, Sam,safety db, returner




Jesse

I'd take one of Hammy's DL
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TecnoGenius

Ya, DL, DT, SAM, returner.  Nothing on O.

When the out-of-playoff teams are official, post them here and we can study who's available.  Lots of teams scrapping for those final 2 spots.  It appears only TOR is going to have a "garbage time season" this year.
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Blue In BC

Again, I was mostly wondering about what other teams might do and not the Bombers so much. The thought being that some lower teams might look to shed SMS to be in a better position when free agency hits. Getting rid of players for that reason and not being in the plans for 2024.

OTOH as far as the Bombers: If we've spoken to Tyrell Ford and he doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, then perhaps trading / exchanging him with Edmonton for a higher conditional draft pick might be a route to take. We could allow the Elks to speak with him.

Now I have no idea what T. Ford is thinking but the NFL is now going into week 5. You'd think he'd be inclined to return to the CFL but he hasn't. Just thinking he might want to play with his brother and the Elks will certainly want to improve their Canadian depth.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 02, 2023, 03:17:26 PM
Again, I was mostly wondering about what other teams might do and not the Bombers so much. The thought being that some lower teams might look to shed SMS to be in a better position when free agency hits. Getting rid of players for that reason and not being in the plans for 2024.

OTOH as far as the Bombers: If we've spoken to Tyrell Ford and he doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, then perhaps trading / exchanging him with Edmonton for a higher conditional draft pick might be a route to take. We could allow the Elks to speak with him.

Now I have no idea what T. Ford is thinking but the NFL is now going into week 5. You'd think he'd be inclined to return to the CFL but he hasn't. Just thinking he might want to play with his brother and the Elks will certainly want to improve their Canadian depth.

Who would you trade for him?

Ceresna?  He has a year left at $215k...

Sims?  Has he learned the rules and strategies?

Lewis/Arcnieaux?  Going for a cup?  We don't *need* them, but...

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Quote from: theaardvark on October 02, 2023, 06:21:39 PM
Who would you trade for him?

Ceresna?  He has a year left at $215k...

Sims?  Has he learned the rules and strategies?

Lewis/Arcnieaux?  Going for a cup?  We don't *need* them, but...



Elliot Brown, the Elks rookie Import DE that looks like a Willie clone, he only played in a few games before being injured, but I thought he showed great potential and might be worth acquiring if Deng doesn't work out.

Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on October 02, 2023, 06:21:39 PM
Who would you trade for him?

Ceresna?  He has a year left at $215k...

Sims?  Has he learned the rules and strategies?

Lewis/Arcnieaux?  Going for a cup?  We don't *need* them, but...



I was thinking of a high draft pick in 2024. No interest in trading a potentially good Canadian for an import let alone one not proven. Even then I'd only trade him if he has a reason why he won't return to Winnipeg. Trading him to the Elks made a small amount of sense because his brother is their etc etc.

However we'd have to get a very good draft pick in return. Elks probably finish last or 2nd last which would mean the # 2 or # 11 picks in their pocket.

We don't need Lewis and Arceneaux is on his last legs. Argos might be interested in Lewis due to injury situation.
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RebusRankin

Ford is under contract for 2024 if he comes back to the CFL. No need to deal him now.

Pete

Quote from: RebusRankin on October 02, 2023, 11:01:29 PM
Ford is under contract for 2024 if he comes back to the CFL. No need to deal him now.
Unless elks want to overpay for him to get both fords on the roster which would be a big pr boost for them.
Maybe a #1 pick and a player

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 02, 2023, 10:45:06 PM
We don't need Lewis and Arceneaux is on his last legs. Argos might be interested in Lewis due to injury situation.

Yikes, don't give enemy teams any good ideas!  Lewis to TOR to play just the playoffs and then be released in FA would be the smartest thing TOR could do.  They have a (so far) good QB but no one of note to throw to.  Imagine if TOR had a CFL top-3 WR?  Now that would change the math when we face them in the GC.  Now that would really scare me.  It could be like 2013 Riders signing Geroy: unstoppable and not even required to win.
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RebusRankin

Quote from: Pete on October 03, 2023, 12:32:15 AM
Unless elks want to overpay for him to get both fords on the roster which would be a big pr boost for them.
Maybe a #1 pick and a player

Ok, a first and a player would be tempting.

Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 02, 2023, 03:17:26 PM
Again, I was mostly wondering about what other teams might do and not the Bombers so much. The thought being that some lower teams might look to shed SMS to be in a better position when free agency hits. Getting rid of players for that reason and not being in the plans for 2024.

OTOH as far as the Bombers: If we've spoken to Tyrell Ford and he doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, then perhaps trading / exchanging him with Edmonton for a higher conditional draft pick might be a route to take. We could allow the Elks to speak with him.

Now I have no idea what T. Ford is thinking but the NFL is now going into week 5. You'd think he'd be inclined to return to the CFL but he hasn't. Just thinking he might want to play with his brother and the Elks will certainly want to improve their Canadian depth.

Man, every time there are siblings, fans make up this narrative of them wanting to play together.

Ford is waiting for an NFL shot. It's a once in a million opportunity and he's giving it a shot. He'll be back next year.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on October 03, 2023, 01:03:13 PM
Man, every time there are siblings, fans make up this narrative of them wanting to play together.

Ford is waiting for an NFL shot. It's a once in a million opportunity and he's giving it a shot. He'll be back next year.

CFL history is full of siblings playing together, it's not something made up. My only point is that he hasn't returned and there might be a win win situation. Every player wants an NFL shot but some have a more realistic chance of succeeding. He hasn't even made an NFL PR spot yet so it's reasonable to wonder what he's thinking.

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theaardvark

This is the perfect time to return.  Uses up the last year of his contract, may only earn a few game cheques, but gets playoff money.

He'd be crazy not to come back soon if he doesn't get a PR spot.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on October 03, 2023, 03:46:48 PM
This is the perfect time to return.  Uses up the last year of his contract, may only earn a few game cheques, but gets playoff money.

He'd be crazy not to come back soon if he doesn't get a PR spot.

He's under contact for 2024. Since he's not back this week, the best he can do is play 2 regular season games and play offs.

I don't remember a player added this late in the season and getting play off money. I don't know of any CBA issue preventing that but it doesn't seem fair IMO that he'd get a big pay check for a late check in.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 03, 2023, 05:28:09 PM
He's under contact for 2024. Since he's not back this week, the best he can do is play 2 regular season games and play offs.

I don't remember a player added this late in the season and getting play off money. I don't know of any CBA issue preventing that but it doesn't seem fair IMO that he'd get a big pay check for a late check in.

If Houston is out.... he'd be a big add
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Quote from: theaardvark on October 03, 2023, 11:03:06 PM
If Houston is out.... he'd be a big add

Maybe for next season, but realistically he's only played one game, there are 3 or 4 DB's lined up ahead of him ready to start if called upon.  I don't think Hall is going to allow him to jump to the front of the line of players that have put in their time.  It's not like Winston Rose returning to the team late in the 2021 season.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 04, 2023, 01:20:19 AM
Maybe for next season, but realistically he's only played one game, there are 3 or 4 DB's lined up ahead of him ready to start if called upon.  I don't think Hall is going to allow him to jump to the front of the line of players that have put in their time.  It's not like Winston Rose returning to the team late in the 2021 season.

His advantage is that he's a Canadian and easier to get on the roster.

BTW: Trade deadline is today.
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I'd love to see Kongbo back here. I doubt that happens, though.
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TecnoGenius

So what happened?  Is the deadline business hours or midnight?

I'm curious to what happened league-wide.  MOS was in a presser yesterday saying he had no clue the trade deadline was today.  What a strange league where the fans and teams are left wondering about everything.  Why is there not a central repository of information on these things?  There should be a publicly accessible calendar where we can all clearly see the important dates.  This happens every year for nearly every important CFL date, it seems.  No one has a clue.
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Pete

No movement anywhere and deadline is past

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2023, 12:44:35 AM
So what happened?  Is the deadline business hours or midnight?

I'm curious to what happened league-wide.  MOS was in a presser yesterday saying he had no clue the trade deadline was today.  What a strange league where the fans and teams are left wondering about everything.  Why is there not a central repository of information on these things?  There should be a publicly accessible calendar where we can all clearly see the important dates.  This happens every year for nearly every important CFL date, it seems.  No one has a clue.

The league could definitely use an overhaul of their information management system....but that's probably what they're attempting to do with Genius and the main reason this season has been such a mixed up mess.  To be fair the stats. have been improving the last few weeks, but I'll never like it as the old system looked great and worked perfectly.