Winnipeg @ BC pre-game

Started by Pigskin, September 30, 2023, 04:07:26 PM

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Pete

Looks like its parker replacing Houston, Grant comes in  taking Parkers di spot.
No other changes
This leaves us vulnerable to a secondary injury, as Kelly or Hallet would have to come on
Once again Jackson is still on despite not making A single block or tackle on st last game and no impact on offence. Im not sure why we have two imports at lb either


3rdand1.5

Grant and Hanson hopefully make the specials better, but I am still really concerned about the D-line....that's really thin IMO

Blueforlife

#47
Dline will be fine but we can't get nicked.  Agree on the back end, can't afford to loose anyone.  Jackson is important to keep Zach protected.  Happy he stays.  Our LB depth gives us options to rotate and keep us fresh. 

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Pete on October 05, 2023, 02:46:56 PM
Looks like its parker replacing Houston, Grant comes in  taking Parkers di spot.
No other changes
This leaves us vulnerable to a secondary injury, as Kelly or Hallet would have to come on
Once again Jackson is still on despite not making A single block or tackle on st last game and no impact on offence. Im not sure why we have two imports at lb either



Cole is going to be brought in to spy Adams at times. Jackson is good on the X's and O's -- Fans might not appreciate it but he does a great job at what he's asked to do. He'd be an all-star in the CFL like Miller if he was Canadian.

kkc60

The depth at DB and DL sure is intimidating, especially against a mobile QB with a ton of weapons

Blueforlife

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 05, 2023, 03:16:48 PM
Cole is going to be brought in to spy Adams at times. Jackson is good on the X's and O's -- Fans might not appreciate it but he does a great job at what he's asked to do. He'd be an all-star in the CFL like Miller if he was Canadian.
Cole will do that well.  Agree on Jackson.  Not sure where the criticism is coming from.

Pete

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 05, 2023, 03:16:48 PM
Cole is going to be brought in to spy Adams at times. Jackson is good on the X's and O's -- Fans might not appreciate it but he does a great job at what he's asked to do. He'd be an all-star in the CFL like Miller if he was Canadian.
To compare Jackson to Miller is unrealistic, I rewatched the argo game paying attention to Jackson, he wasnt even in the vicinity on special team coverage, and on returns missed every block. in terms of protecting Zac he only goes in on short yardage plays when Zacs not even in
You simply have to look at the stats to see hes not even close to miller. (who's a future HOF)

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Pete on October 05, 2023, 03:55:09 PM
To compare Jackson to Miller is unrealistic, I rewatched the argo game paying attention to Jackson, he wasnt even in the vicinity on special team coverage, and on returns missed every block. in terms of protecting Zac he only goes in on short yardage plays when Zacs not even in
You simply have to look at the stats to see hes not even close to miller. (who's a future HOF)

It's totally realistic you just have to compare Jackson to Miller's first season or two in the CFL. Jackson isn't going to be afforded that opportunity because he's American but he's this year's replacement because another Canadian Miller doesn't exist, certainly not on our roster.

Pete

#53
sorry but comparing Jackson to miller has to be based on his actual accomplishments of which are few. To me its an insult to miller. I agree that the failure to find an adequate canadian fb is a problem. I also wonder if there wasn't an import fb that has actually played the position we could have brought in if that was the plan. It feels like were trying to create a position cause of his background and effort (his lack of presence on specail teams is also a factor as mentioned)

Blueforlife

Quote from: Pete on October 05, 2023, 04:24:46 PM
sorry but comparing Jackson to miller has to be based on his actual accomplishments of which are few. To me its an insult to miller. I agree that the failure to find an adequate canadian fb is a problem. I also wonder if there wasn't an import fb that has actually played the position we could have brought in if that was the plan. It feels like were trying to create a position cause of his background and effort (his lack of presence on specail teams is also a factor as mentioned)
agree on the comparison and the ST factor, I do like both though

theaardvark

#55
I have kept an eye on Jackson and he has made some incredible kick out blocks in jumbo package when we run.  He knows how to cut across the path of the runner and take away, nay, obliterate a DL/LB at the point of attack.

And, I have never seen him mosey about, ever.  He is at 100% speed and focus all the time.  Which can be contagious/competitive.
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Blueforlife

Quote from: theaardvark on October 05, 2023, 04:33:08 PM
I have kept an eye on Jackson and he has made some incredible kick out blocks in jumbo package when we run.  He knows how to cut across the path of the runner and take away, nay, obliterate a DL/LB at the point of attack.

And, I have never seen him mosey about, ever.  He is at 100% speed and focus all the time.  Which can be contagious/competitive.
He does his job well.

Sir Blue and Gold

#57
Quote from: Pete on October 05, 2023, 04:24:46 PM
sorry but comparing Jackson to miller has to be based on his actual accomplishments of which are few. To me its an insult to miller. I agree that the failure to find an adequate canadian fb is a problem. I also wonder if there wasn't an import fb that has actually played the position we could have brought in if that was the plan. It feels like were trying to create a position cause of his background and effort (his lack of presence on specail teams is also a factor as mentioned)

Failure? There's no possible way to find a like for like replacement with Mike Miller. Especially if you are thinking of Miller as a 10 year CFL pro. Even if we drafted a great Canadian "fullback" (special teams player) in the past year's draft it usually takes a season to get them up to speed and more to get them to have the experience to think anywhere close to what Miller does. Jackson can do a lot of the high energy that Miller did early in his career. He's clearly the plan for this year. Just because you don't like the comparison or think it's fair doesn't mean he's not doing it. And he's not a long term answer because he's American and it's a spot that needs to be Canadian if the player is going to stick around long term. Jackson would be a hero on this forum if he was from Canada or Winnipeg. He's not so everyone wants him off the roster. That's a fact as much as it's an opinion.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 05, 2023, 04:52:58 PM
Failure? There's no possible way to find a like for like replacement with Mike Miller. Especially if you are thinking of Miller as a 10 year CFL pro. Even if we drafted a great Canadian "fullback" (special teams player) in the past year's draft it usually takes a season to get them up to speed and more to get them to have the experience to think anywhere close to what Miller does. Jackson can do a lot of the high energy that Miller did early in his career. He's clearly the plan for this year. Just because you don't like the comparison or think it's fair doesn't mean he's not doing it. And he's not a long term answer because he's American and it's a spot that needs to be Canadian if the player is going to stick around long term.

It didn't have to be a Canadian FB although that would have been preferable. Nothing stopped us from finding a very good RB that is an excellent blocker and also an offensive threat. The failure is that Jackson doesn't excel at FB, DE or ST player.
Take no prisoners

Blueforlife

#59
I see no failure with Jackson being in the lineup.  Has done his job well and can rotate in a few spots.  The only failure that could come in the future if we don't develop a  CDN replacement for Miller when the time comes.